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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2008, 02:28:47 AM »

He will never have my help or even the acknowledgement that he exist.

We have a lot of work to do.  We have to rebuild an economy destroyed by years of neglect.  We have to rebuild our infrastructure that has been neglected as well. We have to change the way we generate our energy.  We have to clean up our environment.  We have to bring jobs back to America and stop pretending we can live off our credit cards.  In short, we have a lot to do.

Last night the American people spoke loud and clear. Obama is our President-Elect. He deserves our open hand and a chance.  We deserve the same. 

Of course, it is a free country. If  you want to turn your back on the rest of us, that is up to you.   
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2008, 02:42:31 AM »

He will never have my help or even the acknowledgement that he exist.

We have a lot of work to do.  We have to rebuild an economy destroyed by years of neglect.  We have to rebuild our infrastructure that has been neglected as well. We have to change the way we generate our energy.  We have to clean up our environment.  We have to bring jobs back to America and stop pretending we can live off our credit cards.  In short, we have a lot to do.

Last night the American people spoke loud and clear. Obama is our President-Elect. He deserves our open hand and a chance.  We deserve the same. 

Of course, it is a free country. If  you want to turn your back on the rest of us, that is up to you.   

I am curious, what do you do for a living?
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #92 on: November 05, 2008, 02:51:09 AM »
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We have a lot of work to do.  We have to rebuild an economy destroyed by years of neglect.  We have to rebuild our infrastructure that has been neglected as well. We have to change the way we generate our energy.  We have to clean up our environment.  We have to bring jobs back to America and stop pretending we can live off our credit cards.  In short, we have a lot to do.

  

Well Ron, why are you hanging around here on a bolt action rifle forum then.  Get your a$$ out there and get to work.  The economy is indeed a wreck.  You could start by writing some letters to Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and ACORN.  Chop-Chop, times awasting!
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« Reply #93 on: November 05, 2008, 02:56:30 AM »
some only offer advice !
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #94 on: November 05, 2008, 03:15:55 AM »



Well Ron, why are you hanging around here on a bolt action rifle forum then.  Get your a$$ out there and get to work.  The economy is indeed a wreck.  You could start by writing some letters to Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and ACORN.  Chop-Chop, times awasting!

I don't know what is going to happen. I am going to listen for a while.  Right here on the bolt action forum, I am going to suggest we return to talking about bolt actions. Maybe we should take this over to the pot belly stove.   Why am I still here. I like bolt action rifles and hunting. 

Look, this is America.  The beauty of America is that we have elections every 2 years.  We have presidential elections every 4 years. We have serious change elections every 20 or so years.  This is the biggest election since Reagan, but it is just an election. For some of you this is the first time you haven't won the election.  Right now standing around and shaking a fist feels good. Maybe we should give it a few days. 

In the end Americans always end up being Americans.  Despite what the folks in the media tell us political parties are always second.  That is why it is foolish to put all your eggs in the basket of one political party.  That is what the gun community has done the last few years and that is what we need to change. 

As to why this thread started.   Demanding everybody toe a single political party's line is both stupid and unAmerican.   In America people are entitled to different opinions--even Cooper, even me, and even you.  Go ahead boycott Cooper.  It's a free country.  Boycotting Cooper is easy for most of us.  We don't buy expensive custom rifles anyway.


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« Reply #95 on: November 05, 2008, 03:21:55 AM »
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #96 on: November 05, 2008, 03:22:01 AM »
to that note , Its a nice rifle but alot of money for a single shot !
Yes they now make repeaters and yes one good shot is enough ( well unless you have more than one target , which in Va. we do and are allowed to take ).
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #97 on: November 05, 2008, 03:38:25 AM »



Well Ron, why are you hanging around here on a bolt action rifle forum then.  Get your a$$ out there and get to work.  The economy is indeed a wreck.  You could start by writing some letters to Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and ACORN.  Chop-Chop, times awasting!

I don't know what is going to happen. I am going to listen for a while.  Right here on the bolt action forum, I am going to suggest we return to talking about bolt actions. Maybe we should take this over to the pot belly stove.   Why am I still here. I like bolt action rifles and hunting. 

Look, this is America.  The beauty of America is that we have elections every 2 years.  We have presidential elections every 4 years. We have serious change elections every 20 or so years.  This is the biggest election since Reagan, but it is just an election. For some of you this is the first time you haven't won the election.  Right now standing around and shaking a fist feels good. Maybe we should give it a few days. 

In the end Americans always end up being Americans.  Despite what the folks in the media tell us political parties are always second.  That is why it is foolish to put all your eggs in the basket of one political party.  That is what the gun community has done the last few years and that is what we need to change. 

As to why this thread started.   Demanding everybody toe a single political party's line is both stupid and unAmerican.   In America people are entitled to different opinions--even Cooper, even me, and even you.  Go ahead boycott Cooper.  It's a free country.  Boycotting Cooper is easy for most of us.  We don't buy expensive custom rifles anyway.



 "demanding everybody toe a single polital party line is both stupid & unAmerican".   So, another question. Who made that demand? If Cooper had made no stance or endorsement at all, we would not question him now or ever. Which means we would not have made any demands at all for him, you do realize that don't you?

You mentioned that we need to build the infrastructure, which is done through money/taxation. I feel like I am doing quite alot already in that regard. Usually when I see that kind of remark, the one making it typically means that they think YOU should do more. So I ask again, what do you do for a living?

 
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« Reply #98 on: November 05, 2008, 03:56:54 AM »
Don't know about Ron , but for the record I work for a living . And will not support any business that is in opposition to my political prefrences if I can get by with out their product or service .
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #99 on: November 05, 2008, 04:22:34 AM »
Don't know about Ron , but for the record I work for a living . And will not support any business that is in opposition to my political prefrences if I can get by with out their product or service .
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2008, 04:48:23 AM »
I just found out that two employees at Remington voted for Obama!!

DON'T BUY REMINGTON!!!
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« Reply #101 on: November 05, 2008, 05:11:23 AM »
Wareagleguy--That is hilarious. You make a great point...Maybe some folks can realise how silly they sound.

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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2008, 05:16:46 AM »
I just found out that two employees at Remington voted for Obama!!

DON'T BUY REMINGTON!!!

They must be union men a.k.a fools.
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2008, 08:06:23 AM »
If Remington donated to O's cause I would not buy from them.
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« Reply #104 on: November 05, 2008, 09:19:26 AM »
I just found out that two employees at Remington voted for Obama!!

DON'T BUY REMINGTON!!!

I don't consider an empoyee of the company who votes for Obama in the same position as the CEO of a firearms manufacuturing company named after him.  I truly believe a candidates policy pro or con firearms is the most important factor in obtaining my vote.  All other rights are non enforceable without this fundamental right, including equal justice under law and prevention of government abuse.  So any firearms manufacturer CEO that supports an anti firearms candidate certainly will not get my support or business.  Even after his resignation, he'll be a major stock holder in the Corporation and use our business profits against us through donations to anti firearms candidates.  I will not buy Cooper firearms until the Board donates a 10:1 ratio to pro firearms candidates and advertises this action. 
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #105 on: November 05, 2008, 10:52:04 AM »
Wareagleguy--That is hilarious. You make a great point...Maybe some folks can realise how silly they sound.

A lot of things can sound silly to someone who cannot grasp them. 
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2008, 10:53:09 AM »
If Remington donated to O's cause I would not buy from them.

Now that is saying a lot!   :) :)

Oops!  I didn't look close enough Shootall.  I thought Swampman wrote that! :D :D
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« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2008, 12:41:05 PM »
I tell you what.  I would beat that at least one person in every gun manufacturer supported Obama.

Let's stop buying guns!!!

That will teach them!!

We will only forgive if the company pays for the next "pro gun" president campain even if it bankrupts the company.  These people must pay!!!
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Re: Don't buy Cooper Rifles!
« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2008, 03:52:03 PM »
I just found out that two employees at Remington voted for Obama!!

DON'T BUY REMINGTON!!!

There is always people on the floor at any plant who vote Lib & think they should have a piece of what the boss has built up, so this is a rather goofy response. And it has nothing to do with a business owner selling a product with his name on it & endorsing Obama, absolutely nothing.
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« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2008, 03:56:21 PM »
I tell you what.  I would beat that at least one person in every gun manufacturer supported Obama.

Let's stop buying guns!!!

That will teach them!!

We will only forgive if the company pays for the next "pro gun" president campain even if it bankrupts the company.  These people must pay!!!

And again, no one is demanding that this clown or anyone else must endorse anyone, but it is hyper stupid to think that he will not or should not pay a price for being a gun maker & endorsing an anti. It's one of those things that is going to happen, like it or not.
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« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2008, 04:19:40 PM »
True.  Still makes the whole thing stupid.  It's like cutting off your hand to heal your finger...just stupid.
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« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2008, 04:37:22 PM »
History lessons folks.......
Dakota Arms supported the so-called assault weapons ban, they ended up broke (sure that was not their only problem)
Zumbo said we did not need black rifles, the industry took that displeasure to heart real fast as he was unemployeed promptly.  Course he learned a lesson and Remington is now making AR style rifles in a camo finish.
Ruger supported the 10rd mag limit long before many know it, he never would sell anything over 10 rds to the public.  He survived with no large adverse impacts.
S&W felt the impacts of caving into Klinton's hare-brained schemes.  They survived but the took notice first.
So we CAN affect the little operations, its tougher to get to the bigger established companies.
Its easier and quicker to send off a respectfull email that tells them where to go in a manner which they understand but are not insulted.  Personnally I do vote with my checkbook frequently, watch labels for China "stuff" (its real hard to totally avoid as we have been sold out for too long), and am willing to tell the seller exactly why I am not buying from them.

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« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2008, 05:35:20 PM »
 Hey again Ron;     Your first post accused us of “not spending the time to find out the facts”.  You quote the Cooper web site.  (Now, that’s searching for an unbiased opinion.)  Then, oldelkhuner’s post with “the facts” makes you look like an idiot.

I wish you would respond to one question.  If a group of citizens feel that a company has betrayed their most dearly held values and principles, what is the most effective way to express their disgust?  All of your crap about us “eating our own” and “how the rest of the sissies will perceive us”, is laughable.   

In your post of Nov. 1st you made the most ridiculous statement “we need to prove we are supporters of democracy”.  Your arrogance is limitless!!  To question American gun owner’s “support of democracy” is nearly treasonous.  How can a supporter of Barack Hussein have the audacity to question anyone’s support of democracy or patriotism? 

In regard to your suggestion that “we need to accept the new reality and act accordingly”.  YOU accept this foul and nasty reality and, I promise WE will act accordingly.  We always have stood with pride in America.  Barack Hussein has not!!  And, there is not a more law-abiding group in the WORLD than American gun owners!!

Do you really think anyone gives a rat’s a$$ how Montana trends?  That whole discourse of yours on Montana pu$$ie$ was pointless. 

Dude, can you imagine for a moment that the schools will start handing out guns to students, absolutely moronic!  That is about what I would expect from you.  You even suspect yourself as possibly being an unrealistic dreamer.  No, you sound every bit like every other wacko Hussein supporter I’ve met.

You say; “Obama has bigger fish to fry than take away your guns.  He needs your help.  He needs everybody's help if we are going to clean up the mess Bush has made of our economy.”  More Kool-Aid please!

Then, you demand proof of “his proven anti-gun stance.  I actually do believe you have read what’s out there and, I believe you are still convinced Hussein is not anti gun.  It is the Kool-Aid dude!!  The response by Rich Pearson blows your friggin doors off and your best retort is the juvenile whining “Oh yeah, what’s the citation”. 

Your diatribes about democracies, republics and what is real socialism is sophomoric at best and, an attempt by you to sound as though are knowledgable about something.  Your embrace of Barack Hussein’s foul policies ensures you will never be respected by the gun community.  You come to a place where gun-guys hang out and, you’re gonna try and impress us with some phony  knowledge concerning socialism?  You oughtta know.     

Y’all ought to just run the oil, timber and mining companies out of Montana.  That’ll teach ‘em a lesson!

You say the abortion issue has no place here.  What if he were molesting little boys?  Could we mention that?  Well, he's just killing them so, we'll save that discussion till later.       

Let's just name a few of the people who join Ron in his support for Barrack Hussein.  Some of whom are actively engaged in the killing of American citizens and soldiers; Hugo Chavez, Ahmadinejahd, Kieth Olberman, The Taliban, Syria's pres. Assad, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden, Farrakhan, Putin, Jesse Jackson, The most holy reverend Al Sharpton, Danny Glover, Chris Matthews (with the tingle up his leg) , Fidel Castro etc.....  Let's not forget the courageous and honorable citizens of France, Spain and Germany.  You keep interesting company Ron!  I'm sure you're proud to stand with this bunch.

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« Reply #113 on: November 06, 2008, 01:11:04 AM »
Yes & bigoledude, MT. did not trend that way anyhow, look at the map.
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« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2008, 02:02:26 AM »
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I take it you are angry with me. I'll live.  ;D

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« Reply #115 on: November 06, 2008, 03:42:19 PM »
Ron;

I'm glad you will survive.  Really. 

Is it safe to assume you are a union member?  Maybe even a union official?

Yes, I'm angry.  You seem like a caring and decent person Ron.  What angers me so badly is the Dems success in getting so many in America to abandon decency, to embrace shameful things in order to advance their causes.  No cause, not gun ownership, not union membership, not even persecution should be worth compromising our values.  Based on the way you write, it is hard for me to believe you did not have to compromise some values in order to vote for Obama.  See, you got me calling him ....

 



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« Reply #116 on: November 06, 2008, 03:48:41 PM »
Bigoledude, no use in wasting words or time on him. Just think about these liberal filth, anyone who will be for ripping a baby out of its mother sucking its brains out and leaving it quiver on a platter calling it a "choice". Has no humanity at all in them and is beneath contempt. Don't waste your words on scum like this.
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« Reply #117 on: November 06, 2008, 04:30:16 PM »
Ron;

I'm glad you will survive.  Really. 

Is it safe to assume you are a union member?  Maybe even a union official?

Yes, I'm angry.  You seem like a caring and decent person Ron.  What angers me so badly is the Dems success in getting so many in America to abandon decency, to embrace shameful things in order to advance their causes.  No cause, not gun ownership, not union membership, not even persecution should be worth compromising our values.  Based on the way you write, it is hard for me to believe you did not have to compromise some values in order to vote for Obama.  See, you got me calling him ....

 



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« Reply #118 on: November 06, 2008, 05:39:40 PM »




Well Ron, why are you hanging around here on a bolt action rifle forum then.  Get your a$$ out there and get to work.  The economy is indeed a wreck.  You could start by writing some letters to Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and ACORN.  Chop-Chop, times awasting!

I don't know what is going to happen. I am going to listen for a while.  Right here on the bolt action forum, I am going to suggest we return to talking about bolt actions. Maybe we should take this over to the pot belly stove.   Why am I still here. I like bolt action rifles and hunting. 

Look, this is America.  The beauty of America is that we have elections every 2 years.  We have presidential elections every 4 years. We have serious change elections every 20 or so years.  This is the biggest election since Reagan, but it is just an election. For some of you this is the first time you haven't won the election.  Right now standing around and shaking a fist feels good. Maybe we should give it a few days. 

In the end Americans always end up being Americans.  Despite what the folks in the media tell us political parties are always second.  That is why it is foolish to put all your eggs in the basket of one political party.  That is what the gun community has done the last few years and that is what we need to change. 

As to why this thread started.   Demanding everybody toe a single political party's line is both stupid and unAmerican.
   In America people are entitled to different opinions--even Cooper, even me, and even you.  Go ahead boycott Cooper.  It's a free country.  Boycotting Cooper is easy for most of us.  We don't buy expensive custom rifles anyway.

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Ron,

Just to clarify - I voted for two democrats in the Illinois Senate and Illinois House - based upon their pro-gun records and there excellent representation our district's interests.  Your assumption that gun owners back only one party and "put all their eggs in one basket" is wrong. 

BTW a parallel thread was moved to the Political and 2nd amendment forum, where it belongs, so if you have more to say - by all means come join us.
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