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Offline trotterlg

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Hornet science experment?
« on: October 28, 2008, 01:36:32 PM »
I have a 22 Hornet reamer, I know the origional honets were made on 22 RF barrels, and you can shoot modern hornet ammo in them.  I also have a Hornet ejector, what do you think the results would be of a rechamber of a 22 LR or 22 Mag to 22 Hornet in a Handi rifle?  It is a low pressure round, so I am sure the barrel and frame could handle it, all it would need is a 22 RF barrel that fits a CF frame.  I have a 22 Mag barrel but it is in Arizona and I am in WA now.  Larry
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2008, 01:42:27 PM »
22LR barrels are not .224" diameter they are .222" in diameter. the 22 Mag is .224 in diameter. I would think you want a 22 Mag barrel for your project. I think it would hold up with out a problem. I know Stimpylu32 has done a 22 Mag barrel in 218 Bee and he has had no problems at all. If you do use a 22 LR barrel use the .223 bullets and be careful about excessive pressure. 
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2008, 05:02:44 PM »
You can still get .222 bullets for the old 22 Jet cartrige.  If you were to use the .22 LR barrel, those could be an option.
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 06:06:15 PM »
From what I understand it is not an issue to shoot the hornet bullets through a slightly undersized bore.  I also believe the SAAMI standards for a 22 Mag and 22 LR bore size is the same, .222.  If someone can find the specs let me know, if I can find a 22 lr Handi barrel I will just cut the chamber and fire a few down range and see what I get.  Larry
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 06:55:40 PM »
TOTW lists their .22 rimfire liners as .218" bore and .222" groove....

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(t3qrx455oondxn55hbka0o45))/categories/tableList.aspx?catID=14&subID=142&styleID=483


Lilja lists their .22 rimfire barrels as .2215" groove and .217" bore..... OR the "tight" barrels at .220" groove and .215" bore!!


http://liljariflebarrels.com/products/rimfire_lilja_rifle_barrels.htm

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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 01:30:18 PM »
22 Magnum barrels are .224" groove diameter. Clark barrels are anyway. I suspect the others are too. Can you shoot a .224" bullet down a .222" grove diameter? With out a doubt, but pressures will be higher for the same load. Ask Graybeard how .224 bullets shoot down an under sized bore. He had a 22 Hornet that was made over seas and it had an undersized bore. When he shot loads meant for a regular .224 barrel he had issues. So if you intend to use a 22 rim fire barrel, please be careful even if you use .223" bullets. Larry - you are just too good of a guy to have an accident. Good shooting and Good Luck.

http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/faq1022mag.htm

QUESTION: What are your barrel specifications?
ANSWER: 1 in 14" twist rate, 0.218" Bore Diameter, 0.224" Groove

One other thing - most 22 mags and 22 rim fires have a 1-16" twist so you will need to use stubby bullets ;)
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 04:18:30 AM »
How about the switch from rimfire to centerfire? If you put a rimfire barrel on a centerfire frame will the pin strike center? As to twist, my old Savage m-219 uses a 16" twist in .22 Hornet and it groups best with 55 grain spirepoints at about 22-2300fps, go figure.
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2008, 06:18:46 AM »
Quote from: coyotejoe on October 31, 2008, 04:18:30 AM
How about the switch from rimfire to centerfire? If you put a rimfire barrel on a centerfire frame will the pin strike center?

Yes.
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2008, 04:23:46 PM »
The twist rate really doesn't bother me much, twist rate is blamed for a lot of problems that are really due to other things, a fast twist will cover up other little things that affect accuracy, like a bad crown.  I once had a 22-250 that had a 1 in 17 twist barrel, it would stabalize 55gr bullets at least to 100 yards and would shoot 40 gr bullets near light speed, fast enough that zero at 100 yards was zero at 200 yards, a littel over 4,300fps as I recal using Barnes blue coated bullets (VLC's I think) they have been discontinued now.  I will probably just ream my 22 Mag barrel with the hornet reamer and see what I get.  Larry
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2008, 04:29:32 PM »
Larry I am sure you are aware that CZ 22 hornet barrels are smaller in dia, I believe they are either .222 or .223 I read once and they all shoot very well.

I am interested in you results
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Re: Hornet science experment?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 02:31:08 PM »
You are right about the CZ barrel, I have one mounted on a Remington 582 RF to CF Hornet conversion, and it shoots the factory Hornet stuff fine.  Larry
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