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Offline kiddekop

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TC Encore Locker Pin
« on: October 30, 2008, 08:20:38 AM »
I ordered two encore locker pins from http://www.prbullet.com/e-pin.htm  PH# 1-877-828-5538 designed to stop pin rotation and side to side movement affecting accuracy . Also some how to info how to make crock sticks using an old hockey stick & trimming the fore end to clear the receiver.

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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 10:16:39 AM »
A flat metal file works well for shaving a little off the inside of the wings so they clear the receiver.
If I undertstand the crock stick question correctly, fastening 2 sticks together with (light rope, electrical tape, rubber tubing etc) and cut the sticks to whatever length works for you should get you on the right track.

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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2008, 11:12:25 AM »
I am a Contender shooter, and the answer may be obvious to Encore shooters, but what indication do you have that the motion you mention exists, or that is causing you any problems?  I have factory pins in all my Contenders, and have never had any need to "lock" them in place.
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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 02:07:54 PM »
I'm with Keith on this one. Never heard of anyone doing that before. I'm a Contender shooter too, and to be honest, it sounds like a snake-oil salesman got ahold of you.

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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 04:32:52 PM »
Some shooters say they find it improves accuracy and others don't. The idea is that if the hinge pin rotates with opening and closing the action the variation could affect accuracy. So- snake oil to one and a remidy to another.  If your gun is shooting well you may not notice and difference. If it helps I would suspect a over size hole. Just my 2 cents. I have never found the need to try one.

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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 02:04:33 AM »
I have measured my pins and they are consistent and round.  So are the holes.  So what if they shift?  No dimentions change.  If individual guns have oval pins or holes they need to be corrected.

I have said before on here that shooting is a head sport as well as the obvious skill/physical side.  If a gizmo makes the shooter more confident they will most likely shoot better.
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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 02:27:53 AM »
I shoot an Encore withe the TC factory rubber grips.  What can happen with heavy recoil (at least with my Encore) is that the pin will move from side to side.  I didn't notice the problem until I shot a few times, then the gun opened sorta funny one time.  It was then I noticed that the factory rubber grips will allow the pin to move from side to side a little.  Not really a problem, but I could see the locking pin being OK if you worry about that sort of thing.

I don't worry about it, just poke the pin back in place.  It doesn't happen very often, so I don't really see the "locking" pin being worth the $50.00,  not to me anyway.  I cerainly can't see it improving accuracy to any measurable degree.

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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 03:55:17 AM »
Keith,

I agree with you, I have a Encore and I shoot the 12" 454 Casull and 15" 7mm-08 Remington with the factory pin without and problems at all.  It always opens and closes smoothly, hammer and trigger are smooth.

Accuracy is superb.

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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 07:31:33 PM »
I shoot an Encore withe the TC factory rubber grips.  What can happen with heavy recoil (at least with my Encore) is that the pin will move from side to side.  I didn't notice the problem until I shot a few times, then the gun opened sorta funny one time.  It was then I noticed that the factory rubber grips will allow the pin to move from side to side a little.  Not really a problem, but I could see the locking pin being OK if you worry about that sort of thing.

I don't worry about it, just poke the pin back in place.  It doesn't happen very often, so I don't really see the "locking" pin being worth the $50.00,  not to me anyway.  I cerainly can't see it improving accuracy to any measurable degree.
$37.95    my 454 casull moves everything scope,rings,bases including me I fired some win 260gr partition golds and the 15 in barrel torqued left on the bench as I watched a vortec of dust follow the bullet down range so does magtech 260 jfp it's a handful.

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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 08:48:37 PM »
Let us know if the pin improves your shooting.  I think the heavier recoiling Encore's may react differently than Contenders.  There may be a need for such a pin.  Let us know what you find out.
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Re: TC Encore Locker Pin
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2008, 11:28:34 AM »
Let us know if the pin improves your shooting.  I think the heavier recoiling Encore's may react differently than Contenders.  There may be a need for such a pin.  Let us know what you find out.
I shall as I have win 260 partition gold ammo and magtech plus some of my handloads using sierra,hornaday & cast performance bullets really loaded up with w296/h110.I'm at a disadvantage reloading since most of the data is for revolvers with forcing cones not TC Encore Pistols  which are really shortened rifle barrels and can handle much more pressure & velocity.I loaded some ammo & was getting a really good group, with no signs of pressure, but when I told some other shooters how much h110 I was using they said I should down load it , then I lost my group & started  vertically stringing shots. Before doing anything dangerous I checked with a Speer Tech explaining  I was using TC Encores in 15" pistol & 20" rifle barrels he said I'd have no problems with the load I was using . I went back to my original unpublished load and my group returned.