omega scope

[HuntHard]

Is anyone using the omega scope and what load are you guys shooting with it. I just got one and haven't done much shooting yet. This is the first year shooting 150gr of powder and I don't think my encore likes it. I will prolly be dropping back to 100gr or 120gr. I shot 100gr in my omega last year and shot good. 250 shockwave also.

[yooper77]

My buddy uses the Nikon Omega scope with the BDC-250 reticle.
http://nikonsro.com/fileuploads/pdfs/OMEGA_manual.pdf

As I am sure you already know the BDC-250 reticle is designed for 150 grains of powder and 250 grain bullets only.

If you use any other variation then the BDC-250 reticle is useless.

I use a Weaver K4, 4x38mm scope on my T/C Encore and set it for shooting 3" high at 100 yards.

Seriously, I don't have the time to attempt to see which circle or hash mark I would need to use during all hunting situations.

My results were from using 3 Pyrodex pellets and a sabot 240 grain pistol bullet.
-I sighted in at 3 inches high at 100 yards and at 200 yards I was approx 4 inches low, so all I need to do is hold center chest and squeeze.

I first tried this with the Weaver V9, 3-9x38mm scope, but switched to the Weaver K4, 4x38mm scope and achieved the same results.

yooper77

[HuntHard]

the scope will work with any powder charge and any bullet. You have to sight the main crosshair in at 100 then move back with the circles and fine tune them. I spoke with a nikon tech yesterday. I just wanted peoples options on it and if they in fact where shooting different charges. no two 150gr. charges shoot the same. ex. T7 is hotter then pyrodex and I am sure black powder is the same.

[yooper77]

OK, so you still need to remember what line to use and sometimes at a moments notice.

You got that right, too many variables when it comes to 150 grains, that's why a person need to shoot his or her load they are actually going to use.

When I am out hunting, I try to keep things simple.

I don't use range finders or other range finding gimmicks.

I try to smartly estimate the correct range in sometime split seconds and take my shots.

I have been very lucky and successfull for the past 30 years of hunting.

yooper77

[HuntHard]

i am still using the cross hairs like I always have now I just have circles at different ranges for the times I know the distance or times I when I have time to range.

[hogrdr]

Yooper

 Since HuntHard is talking about BDC reticles it would apply to shots over 100 yards! Do you really take spit second shots over 100 yards? Takes me longer than that to get set to pull the trigger on something that distance. JMHO!

Hog

[HuntHard]

I also like to take more than a split second to determine a safe and dead on shot. Plus takes alittle time to see what it is and if it is a shooter.

[yooper77]

hogrdr & HuntHard,

I didn't know the Nikon Omega scope with the BDC-250 reticle was setup for any load, all it talks about is the 150 grain charge with 250 grain bullet, and I thought if you do anything different is will not work.  Maybe I am wrong, that's OK no problem.

In my opinion, the ballistic reticles all make sense on paper from a text book and shooting rest, but from actual real hunting environment its not practical.

Distance doesn't matter for split seconds decisions, but there are so many variables like safety, wind, weather, terrain, how many eyes or ears and now finding little circles or lines before you can shoot.

I concentrate on my breathing, trigger pull and shotplacement all at the same time, it's just too easy to select the wrong circle or line.

If people like ballistic reticles that's good, I have had unsatisfactory hands on experience with them, so I choose to use regular scopes which works for me.

yooper77

[12ptdroptine]

This is why I bought the 2 Nikon omega's I have with the Niko-Plex reticle....Just plain old crosshair's. Drop

[Redhawk1]

OK, so you still need to remember what line to use and sometimes at a moments notice.

You got that right, too many variables when it comes to 150 grains, that's why a person need to shoot his or her load they are actually going to use.

When I am out hunting, I try to keep things simple.

I don't use range finders or other range finding gimmicks.

I try to smartly estimate the correct range in sometime split seconds and take my shots.

I have been very lucky and successfull for the past 30 years of hunting.

yooper77

That is why knowing your equipment is a good thing. Not much thought goes into it when you practice with your equipment.

[Lawful Larry]

Nice scope, but really not neccessary here in my hunting areas.  The majority of my shots are within 50 to75 yds.  I have not had a need to take a shotout to 100 yds or more.  I suppose that if I was living out west, this scope would be very practical. 

Just my two cents.

[Varmint Hunter]

I have no problem putting 250gr ShockWaves right on the money @ 200 yards with the Nikon Omega BDC. While I haven't tested it at 225yds or 250 yds, I'm sure that the impacts would be close using the next two BDC circles.

I will say this, however, the circles are too busy and a bad idea. A thin, short horizontal crosshair would have been much better. I imagine that Nikon just wanted to be different because the circles serve no useful purpose.

[quickdtoo]

Leupold has a new Ultimate Slam muzzleloader/shotgun (VX1?) scope that's priced comparably to the Omega, don't know how new it is, just saw it today listed as new in the Cabela's optics catalog.

Tim

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/shotgunmuzzleloader-scopes/ultimateslam/

[Swampman]

I've been working with a couple of new Nikons and I doubt I'll buy another Nikon.  I want to get one of these for my inline.

http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/SpecialOpportunity.html

[Varmint Hunter]

I've been working with a couple of new Nikons and I doubt I'll buy another Nikon.  I want to get one of these for my inline.
http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/SpecialOpportunity.html

I looked at that scope too. Oddly enough they left off what may be the most important crosswire, the 150yd mark. Yeah, you can kind of bracket the 100yd and 200yd but that defeats the whole purpose of using this type of hold-over crosshair system. Hmmmmm

[Varmint Hunter]

Leupold has a new Ultimate Slam muzzleloader/shotgun (VX1?) scope that's priced comparably to the Omega, don't know how new it is, just saw it today listed as new in the Cabela's optics catalog.
Tim
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/shotgunmuzzleloader-scopes/ultimateslam/

Interesting how Leupold can claim that the fixed crosswires are appropiate to compensate the drop for 2 pellet loads, 3 pellet loads & slugs. Seems impossible.

The central circle can go.