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Re: Are we men or mice?
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2008, 05:53:04 AM »
I've said it before and I'm gonna say it again. Yeah I hope to hell I'm wrong but I'm not and you'll all see soon enough. You just really do not understand what just happened. Oh yeah it's gonna soon enough become clear but by then it's already gonna be too late. The system is BROKEN. The country did not just elect a socialist. It just elected a black supremist and a muzlim. The repercussions of that will very soon become apparent.

Bill I believe I do have the jest of the situation. However, given your feeling that I don't I will ask the question. What do you propose I as an American do right this minute given the circumstances. I am open for suggestions, and am very interested in your forth coming proposals.
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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2008, 07:28:15 AM »
I and my wife always vote. My wife worked for the McCain campaign after he was nominated. I gave money, my wife and I went door to door passing out flyer's, knocking on doors, and making hundreds and hundreds of phone call from our home phone and from a local McCain campaign HQ here in our area.

This was the most important election in the history of this country. We just came to a Y in the the American story and we went hard left instead of right.

cabin4, you are correct on the importance of this election, and the turn made was indeed "hard left". I for one did not miss the obvious. However, the candidate was weak from the beginning, and had been in the past. McCain never generated any real base. Not even in 2000. He this time, was all that was left and YOUR fellow Americans didn't want him. My state backed him as did others, but his boat was full of holes, and many states turned from red to blue.
None of us have changed our views on freedom but, we have been dealt a hand that will have to be played whether we like it or not. Complaining to or about each other will accomplish nothing.
Vigilance must be practiced, and determination to take a stand if and when required must be assumed.

I agree. I never liked McCain. Hard to beleive he was the best this country had to offer. He was just the lessor of two evils.
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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2008, 07:40:31 AM »
I say to crap w/ the high road reguarding Obama,

I've never seen so much hate preach, against a president as I witnessed w/ president Bush, sure there's the Dave Letterman and Jay Leno bunch that make jokes about them, but Bush literally had a TV show and movie made about him demeaning him and his family... I'd love to see that happen w/ Obama... I say turn the dogs loose on Obama like the libs did Bush the last 8 years and lets see how he weathers it...
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2008, 08:10:07 AM »
ok  singleshot sam

find  the  vidio  in  this  link
burn it  on  cd  and  save  it   there
show it  to  every one  you  can

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when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2008, 08:24:21 AM »
ok  singleshot sam

find  the  vidio  in  this  link
burn it  on  cd  and  save  it   there
show it  to  every one  you  can

OPRA WIMPFREE  will  be  running  an  infomercial  for  the  next  4  years



http://www.americanpatrol.com/VIDEO/OBAMA/MessiahObama081029.html







Video no longer available.  Have another link?

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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2008, 08:31:40 AM »
I say to crap w/ the high road reguarding Obama,

I've never seen so much hate preach, against a president as I witnessed w/ president Bush, sure there's the Dave Letterman and Jay Leno bunch that make jokes about them, but Bush literally had a TV show and movie made about him demeaning him and his family... I'd love to see that happen w/ Obama... I say turn the dogs loose on Obama like the libs did Bush the last 8 years and lets see how he weathers it...

Agree, agree , agree.

Hey, if Obama delivers solutions I like, so be it. If he does not, he can get the same treatment that Bush and the rest of the republicans got.

Just because he's black does not mean we have to settle for less. In fact, he needs to deliver a 100% of the solutions I want in the time frame I want or else I get the right to blame him just the same way the left wing did it to the Bush's, Reagan, etc....

Like is tuff in the big leagues. But that's just the way it is. All this BS about supporting our new prez is just a bunch of horses azzes in the elite  media speaking trash. How much support did they give Bush and Reagan???? come on....
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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2008, 12:50:02 PM »
heather


that  link  is  good
just  click  on  more vidios down below

it  is   woth  it  if  you   haven't  seen  it
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

many statements made here are fiction and are for entertainment purposes only and are in no way to be construed as a description of actual events.
no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2008, 01:11:09 PM »
I've said it before and I'm gonna say it again. Yeah I hope to hell I'm wrong but I'm not and you'll all see soon enough. You just really do not understand what just happened. Oh yeah it's gonna soon enough become clear but by then it's already gonna be too late. The system is BROKEN. The country did not just elect a socialist. It just elected a black supremist and a muzlim. The repercussions of that will very soon become apparent.

Bill I believe I do have the jest of the situation. However, given your feeling that I don't I will ask the question. What do you propose I as an American do right this minute given the circumstances. I am open for suggestions, and am very interested in your forth coming proposals.

I don't think I could safely and honestly give you an answer to that other than face to face.

But what can be said here is this. Today there is little to do really but play a wait and see game. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong and he will be no more than another in a long line of socialists bent on a NWO and give aways.

Ya might tho wanna be thinking of a hiding place in case someone comes looking to take you out. A face to face won't get you far. I have no such and quite frankly have no clue where to look for one as I'm not financially able to pick up and move. If I were I would.

Single action revolvers and lever action rifles are not gonna cut it in what is to come.

I think our best hope might be from outside really if that is what I think is coming is in fact coming. I really don't think Russia or China want his finger on the US neuclear arsenal. If he is what I think he is I doubt seriously that Israel wants him to take office. either of them have the capability and the motive to remove him in advance. IF they don't then hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully he'll just be another in a long line of piss poor excuses for president.

Since he is expected to be in DC on January 20 I'd sure not wanna be near there. If we read next day of a neuclear explosion there then likely one of the three I suspect with such arsenals who really don't want him in power decided to do what the US has been talking of doing to so many others. They will have taken a preemptive strike to prevent what they see as a threat to their nations.


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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2008, 03:35:32 PM »
GB, I am almost 60 years old, and like you I have seen much. I have seen more than most due to my past profession, and after watching the steady downward spiral of our great country over the years have made decisions. I will not surrender my personal dignity, nor my families. I will not abandon a home I worked hard to pay for and provide shelter for my family.
In plain terms, I will not, just because someone rides up on my porch and demands whatever, give it over. I have lived an honest and law abiding life, and will continue doing so even if it kills me. I accept and obey the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of this country, but my rights were granted by God Himself, not the U.S. of A.
I am not going to "borrow trouble" but I am not going to run from it either. I am going to sit on the porch and rock, and see what transpires. That will tell me what I do, on do not need to do. At this point all else is pure speculation, but one must handle his stress in a manner that suits himself, and not me, nor me him. This thing will shake out one way or the other.
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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2008, 03:45:56 PM »
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Obama is our president

He will never be my President.  I don't even believe he's a citizen of this country.
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2008, 03:59:03 PM »
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Obama is our president

He will never be my President.  I don't even believe he's a citizen of this country.


A BIG +1 on that.
The birth certificate fiasco never got resolved did it??
Just seems like the liberal media said "good enough" and swept it under the rug.


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« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2008, 03:43:19 AM »
I also think bo is a black extremist, a muslim, and will try to govern as an authoritarian.  I can not yet imagine what that might entail. With a democratic majority in the house and senate, nothing in the political world will stop him.  His benefactors are among the most wealthy and powerfull in the world.  They have been trying to destroy the United States of America for decades.  They may well succeed, by brainwashing enough of our population, so that we destroy ourselves.  But for the time being, they have not brainwashed all of us. 
Isn't it a bit peculiar that his grandmother died one day before the election.  The one person still living who could pinpoint the location of his birth.  Isn't it also peculiar that no one in the media, or the current political structure, has made an issue of his eligibility to be president.

I'm not planning to take up arms, unless my family were somehow physically threatened. 
If the majority are stupid enough to fall for this bastard, I'm not gonna fight for them.  They are not worth it.
I'll just try to survive until this whole thing collapses. 
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« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2008, 03:51:23 AM »
one  senate  seat  is  down  to  200  votes  now

your  3rd  party  at  work

also 200  vote  propbly  more than  that  were  stolen  by  ACORN

call  your  congressman  about  ACORN,   ask  him to  defund and  prosicute them


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DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2008, 03:53:38 AM »
there are laws to stop him
the court system to stop him
and the second amnd. gives the population the means to stop any thing ! that becomes anti American !
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2008, 03:59:01 AM »
if   you  see  an  orange ACORN  shirt

make  sure  he will  think  twicw  before  he  goes  in  public with  it

make  people  think  it  might  be  wise  to  scrape  that   democrat sticker  off

but  don't  break the  law   just  use  mental  humiliation or  lay  them  off/find a  reason  to  fire
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2008, 04:11:28 AM »
one  senate  seat  is  down  to  200  votes  now

your  3rd  party  at  work

also 200  vote  propbly  more than  that  were  stolen  by  ACORN

call  your  congressman  about  ACORN,   ask  him to  defund and  prosicute them


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Where did you get your information supporting your claim to fault, and which senate seat are you talking about? Acorn is a gimme, I am speaking 3rd party here. Info please.
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« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2008, 04:16:05 AM »
I'm with Dee

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« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2008, 04:19:41 AM »
just  speculation

trying  to  provoke  thought  and

unite  against  the lessor  of 2  evils

prove  me  wrong  i  am too  lazy  to  prove  i am  right
i  got  too  much   other   mud  to sling anyway    lol
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2008, 04:22:56 AM »
Why accuse the people that vote 3rd party with loosing for the republicans ? If they had the guts to say enough is enough and vote for "real change " we should look up to them , join them and take control of our own govt. thru. a new party . The reason we have what we do for Govt. is our own fault ! We werte willing to accept the better of two evils . We still ended up with evil !
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« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2008, 04:25:00 AM »
THat's part of the problem most can't tell mud from truth any more !
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« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2008, 04:27:37 AM »
what  WE need is a good community organizer

all the effective  [notice  i didn't say good] community organizers are working for liberals

notice liberals always speak In  1st person plural
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

many statements made here are fiction and are for entertainment purposes only and are in no way to be construed as a description of actual events.
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« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2008, 04:40:42 AM »
just  speculation

trying  to  provoke  thought  and

unite  against  the lessor  of 2  evils

prove  me  wrong  i  am too  lazy  to  prove  i am  right
i  got  too  much   other   mud  to sling anyway    lol

45-70.gov, you have once again demonized myself and others with a lie. You have no proof of you statement but, made it as if it were the truth. When called on it, you admitted it was YOUR speculation, and tried to cover yourself with the "trying to provoke thought" song and dance. Had I not asked for you source you would have let the statment stand, further demonizing "free thinking" people like myself. You even sent me an email expressing your desire for unity with folks like me.  ::) You are double tongued my friend. You have know credibility what so ever with me now. You will waste your time addressing me in the future, and your emails are blocked. You are on the shelf with two others at my fire, and I have no desire to stand with the likes of you. You have been preaching unity and practicing devision. You are a hypocrite.
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« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2008, 04:52:03 AM »
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

It's a simple as this.  If, at any point, the goverment becomes more corrupt or oppressive than is bearable, it will be time for a new government. 
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« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2008, 05:05:26 AM »
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

It's a simple as this.  If, at any point, the goverment becomes more corrupt or oppressive than is bearable, it will be time for a new government. 

I agree entirely, and the people of this nation, in order to do this, must as a nation, draw courage to step out, and change their voting habits. Continually settling for less and less, is not an exhabition of strength and courage but, one of complacent acceptance of less and less each voting cycle. Good post sir.
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« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2008, 01:16:18 PM »
maybe  i  am  just  not  dealing  well  with  my  own guilt  for  being  a  3rd  party voter  for  so  long

simpler  for  me  to  just  stop  the democrats until  something  worse  comes along

i  hope  those  i  upset  well  atleast  talk  guns  with  me  i  will  respect  your  space  here
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2008, 03:56:46 AM »
another old  saying  applies  here

''if  you can't  beat'm,join'm''

we  don't  have  a  generation to  work  within  right now
we  must  remove  the  ''most evil''  majoity  from  congress  in  2  years
will  it  take  a gun  ''confisction''   before  then  to  get  you attention??
if  they   get  a  super majoity  in  2010,   clinton/bidden  gun  ban  will  look  like  the  good  old  days
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

many statements made here are fiction and are for entertainment purposes only and are in no way to be construed as a description of actual events.
no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.