CONGRATULATIONS.

[powderman]

All you 3rd party voters and supporters have achieved your goal. You effectively bad mouthed Mccain and supported One of the biggest anti gunners in America, osama obama. You achieved your goal. You had the chance to oppose and fight this monster, but you refused. By refusing to fight him, you helped elect him. Tell me how you helped America by refusing to fight this evil? How did you benefit us as gun owners, hunters, shooters? You have turned your back on America and common sense and decency. You have elected a man who is pro death, pro gay, anti gun, and the biggest racist since George Wallace. A man who said on national tv that if Israel and the muslims go to war, he would support the muslims. YEP, you guy should be proud of yourselves, I'm not, I'm ashamed of ya. You can stick your convictions where the sun don't shine. There are some here that I will try real hard not to respond to, no matter how ignorant and stupid they are. POWDERMAN. 

[45-70.gov]

at  10   oclock  this  morning

i  left  the Libertarian party

the  republican  party  needs  about  10  million othe  consevitives  to  fix  it now

one  down  and 9,999,999  to  go

[billy_56081]

Well lesser of 2 evils huh? Now you will see evil pure and 100% lethal!

[45-70.gov]

what?

[deltecs]

9,999,998 you mean.

[Dee]

All you 3rd party voters and supporters have achieved your goal. You effectively bad mouthed Mccain and supported One of the biggest anti gunners in America, osama obama. You achieved your goal. You had the chance to oppose and fight this monster, but you refused. By refusing to fight him, you helped elect him. Tell me how you helped America by refusing to fight this evil? How did you benefit us as gun owners, hunters, shooters? You have turned your back on America and common sense and decency. You have elected a man who is pro death, pro gay, anti gun, and the biggest racist since George Wallace. A man who said on national tv that if Israel and the muslims go to war, he would support the muslims. YEP, you guy should be proud of yourselves, I'm not, I'm ashamed of ya. You can stick your convictions where the sun don't shine. There are some here that I will try real hard not to respond to, no matter how ignorant and stupid they are. POWDERMAN. 

What a dumb ass remark, made by a dumb ass. You have been running around screaming this message like an old woman for months. I and others have read your panic ridden posts for weeks. You have even followed us to other threads screaming your redundant message. Get some counseling before you drive yourself to a heart attack or stroke. In the mean time I don't care what you think about anything. Your just a redundantly screaming baby. Your biggest fear just won not only the delegate votes, but the popular vote as well. My state was carried by McCain as the Republican always does. I could have voted for the three stooges and it wouldn't have mattered, but honestly I didn't think you guys could handle the job. McCain just couldn't pull it off. I don't care if you respond or not. You are categorized in a group filed under hysterically fearful of the so far unknown.
You have issued insult after insult, innuendo after innuendo, and accusation after accusation, not to mention the name calling you have done. It should have been stopped long ago but, was not. The sky is falling powderman, quick get under the bed and suck your thumb, and pout. Your guy lost!
Now take this post and run with it. Your good at it. This post is my final acknowlegement of your existance and I gave you plenty to rave about. You are another ex-friend I will ignore in the future. This ain't Burger King and you don't always have it your way. None of these   from me. Just these.
If in the future you refuse to acknowledge my existence it would absolutely make my life complete. You're a heretical drama queen.

[billy_56081]

I think congratulations are in order for the flip flopper. 

As I said  soon you will see evil, pure evil. Barrak Hussien Obama will make your silly comments about the lesser of 2 evils seem like a tear in the ocean.

[Matt]

All you 3rd party voters and supporters have achieved your goal. You effectively bad mouthed Mccain and supported One of the biggest anti gunners in America, osama obama. You achieved your goal. You had the chance to oppose and fight this monster, but you refused. By refusing to fight him, you helped elect him. Tell me how you helped America by refusing to fight this evil? How did you benefit us as gun owners, hunters, shooters? You have turned your back on America and common sense and decency. You have elected a man who is pro death, pro gay, anti gun, and the biggest racist since George Wallace. A man who said on national tv that if Israel and the muslims go to war, he would support the muslims. YEP, you guy should be proud of yourselves, I'm not, I'm ashamed of ya. You can stick your convictions where the sun don't shine. There are some here that I will try real hard not to respond to, no matter how ignorant and stupid they are. POWDERMAN. 

What a dumb ass remark, made by a dumb ass. You have been running around screaming this message like an old woman for months. I and others have read your panic ridden posts for weeks. You have even followed us to other threads screaming your redundant message. Get some counseling before you drive yourself to a heart attack or stroke. In the mean time I don't care what you think about anything. Your just a redundantly screaming baby. Your biggest fear just won not only the delegate votes, but the popular vote as well. My state was carried by McCain as the Republican always does. I could have voted for the three stooges and it wouldn't have mattered, but honestly I didn't think you guys could handle the job. McCain just couldn't pull it off. I don't care if you respond or not. You are categorized in a group filed under hysterically fearful of the so far unknown.
You have issued insult after insult, innuendo after innuendo, and accusation after accusation, not to mention the name calling you have done. It should have been stopped long ago but, was not. The sky is falling powderman, quick get under the bed and suck your thumb, and pout. Your guy lost!
Now take this post and run with it. Your good at it. This post is my final acknowlegement of your existance and I gave you plenty to rave about. You are another ex-friend I will ignore in the future. This ain't Burger King and you don't always have it your way. None of these   from me. Just these.
If in the future you refuse to acknowledge my existence it would absolutely make my life complete. You're a heretical drama queen.

  ....OMG.....   Dee....  what the.... well hell I guess I just could not have said it better myself... 

[Matt]

oh by the way I voted for mickey mouse... I figured he could do as good a job as ob or jm.... but in my heart I knew RP was the man for the job had it not been for all the dumbasses who could not clearly see that...

[45-70.gov]

POWDERMAN

i  gave  DEE  permission  to  vote 3rd party in  texas

he  wouldn't  be  a spoiler  there  so  he  is  not  a traitor

[Dee]

oh by the way I voted for mickey mouse... I figured he could do as good a job as ob or jm.... but in my heart I knew RP was the man for the job had it not been for all the dumbasses who could not clearly see that...

Matt, there has never been enough gray matter for a couple of them to realize McCain would carry my state regardless of how I voted. Texas always votes conservative. The funniest part is one of the yankees in the bunch lives in an Obama state, and he's attacking me.  Instead they insulted me, and tried to bully and shame me. It is a matter of not being able to see over their lips.

[Matt]

oh by the way I voted for mickey mouse... I figured he could do as good a job as ob or jm.... but in my heart I knew RP was the man for the job had it not been for all the dumbasses who could not clearly see that...

Matt, there has never been enough gray matter for a couple of them to realize McCain would carry my state regardless of how I voted. Texas always votes conservative. The funniest part is one of the yankees in the bunch lives in an Obama state, and he's attacking me.  Instead they insulted me, and tried to bully and shame me. It is a matter of not being able to see over their lips.

I totally agree... you know what is funny about this whole thing in a real sick and twisted kind of way... Ron Paul is an economist and for weeks before the "bail out" RP was on every network talking about what needs to be done "as the expert" for the country... but just because he said lets get our men and women home these same mindless morons here would not support him... THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT HAD ANY UNDERSTANDING OF ECONOMICS and they laugh at him... all the while he was telling us this was coming... DUMBASSES damn you guys....

[Dee]

During the primary debates Ron Paul when allow to speak told the Nation what was going to happen to our economy, and when the camera panned to the other candidates, guys like McCain, Thompson, and Giuliani, they were laughing at him.
I like it when they call me a flip flopper but, can't produce such a post of mine. I was Paul to the end.

[45-70.gov]

did  ron  paul  want  us  out  before  or  after the

550tons  of  uranium  was  out  of  muslim  hands???


economics  is  VERY  important

untill they detonate  a  nuke

[45-70.gov]

dee


if  i  lived  in  your  state  i  wouldn't  have  left  the liberdarian  party  today

my  state  gave  OBAMA  27  electoral  votes.......barely

[Matt]

During the primary debates Ron Paul when allow to speak told the Nation what was going to happen to our economy, and when the camera panned to the other candidates, guys like McCain, Thompson, and Giuliani, they were laughing at him.
I like it when they call me a flip flopper but, can't produce such a post of mine. I was Paul to the end.

I know but because of his foreign policy approach “the original one by the way " people laughed at him… well they are not laughing now... most here are crying.... the irony... I love it even if it is sick and twisted.

[billy_56081]

   Ron Paul 2012!

Get him on the ticket with some MONEY behind him and I'll vote for him. Put him up as a joke and I won't.

[kevthebassman]

If this economy had fallen apart 10 months earlier, I firmly believe we would have watched Ron Paul win on the 4th.  The man called it, and he was the only one who would acknowledge reality.

@ Dee:  Couldn't have said it better myself.  Missouri (my state) went for McCain, despite my vote for Barr. 

The notion that the 3rd party candidates and voters sank the Republicrat party is completely absurd.  Only someone who is either a complete and total imbecile unable to find their posterior with both hands and a flashlight or someone in a complete state of denial believes that the problem was the 3rd party voters. 

The Republicrat party has utterly abandoned their values.  Remember when the Republicans practiced fiscal conservatism?  Well I don't either, but I remember when they at least pretended to.  Now, the party is more or less a dead hulk, lacking a clearly defined direction and purpose, with no unified message.

Ask yourself, what was the message of the Republican party during this election?  I don't believe I ever heard them deliver a message.  McCain jumped around, modifying his message almost constantly, and in the end the only message he managed to deliver was "be afraid of Obama."  Obviously, that message didn't resonate with the people, and McCain was soundly beaten by Obama and his vague but optimistic message of "change."

The sad state of the Republican party is a direct result of the unbelievably poor leadership of Bush.  The man is like King Midas, except everything he touches turns to fecal matter, not gold.  It's not that he's a bad guy, it's that he's in way over his head and lacks the ability to lead people, which is an important skill for a leader.

Now, you boys can say what you will about Obama, but the man is charismatic and the fact that he is calm and composed 100% of the time and able to hold the attention of a crowd is a refreshing change for people who don't listen quite hard enough to fully understand his message of national socialism.

[Dee]

dee


if  i  lived  in  your  state  i  wouldn't  have  left  the liberdarian  party  today

my  state  gave  OBAMA  27  electoral  votes.......barely

45-70.gov, I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you but, will tell you that your abandoning of the Libertarian party accomplished nothing. Jumping from candidate to candidate and party to party is the very reason you ended up with McCain as a candidate. He couldn't win in 2000 when he ran as an anti-2nd Amendment candidate. He changed horses this time, and still couldn't sell himself. He was never going to be president.
My wife and I are actually registered Republicans and always have been but, the Republican party has abandoned us. She voted McCain, and the rest Libertarian, and I voted Barr and straight Libertarian on all offices open. No harm, no foul. My mother is a registered Democrat, and has been for 60 years. I can't remember the last time she voted Democrat in the presidential election.
You could have kept your 3rd party status and still voted McCain. The Libertarian party I am sure hated to see you go, but in fact will not miss you. They are dedicated to "real change" and want equally dedicated party members. I register as a Republican ONLY to be able to vote in primaries for folks like Ron Paul and Ralph Hall. There are zero Democrats I will vote for, and Republican is last resort unless it is for Texas Congressmen Paul or Hall. These two I will always support.

[torpedoman]

intresting FACT if all the third party vote had went to McCain the results would have been the SAME

[nomosendero]

I was looking at 3rd party until Palin came along, I figured at least a 1 in 4 chance she would either take over during the term or McCain would be a 1 termer & she might win the 2nd term. It was the only way I could vote for him. Like I said, otherwise I would have voted 3rd party & I live in AR, which vted McCain Heavy.

I don't understand the concept that the 3rd party guys got McCain beat, esp. when in all cases sited they voted in States McCain won. Maybe someone would explain this new Math.

[nomosendero]

intresting FACT if all the third party vote had went to McCain the results would have been the SAME

And that as well 

[gypsyman]

Not sure it was 3rd. party voters. Not saying it wasn't part of the reason. I'ld like to know how much voter fraud vote's had to play in this election. Evertime in the last week to 10 days, groups like Acorn turned up. Convicted felons, dead people, double dippers, illegal aliens. I know the dems screamed about Florida a few years ago. This time, Nevada,Ohio,Pa.,Ill., just to name a few. gypsyman

[kevthebassman]

I don't understand the concept that the 3rd party guys got McCain beat, esp. when in all cases sited they voted in States McCain won. Maybe someone would explain this new Math.

It's people with their heads too far up their $@& to admit that the Republicans have jumped the shark.  They can't even explain their candidates position to you without having to look it up, so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting.

[Matt]

  Ron Paul 2012!

Get him on the ticket with some MONEY behind him and I'll vote for him. Put him up as a joke and I won't.

Candidate	Contributions	Loans Received	All Receipts	Operating Expenditures	All Disbursements
Rudy Giuliani †	58,789,214	0	61,645,421	48,197,458	48,868,609
Mitt Romney ‡	53,915,464	35,350,000	90,076,402	86,670,597	87,644,955
John McCain	37,480,640	2,971,697	42,094,078	30,721,676	39,145,650
Ron Paul †	28,146,661	0	28,219,301	20,262,288	20,380,121
Fred Thompson †	21,740,757	0	21,812,645	19,495,821	19,672,378
Mike Huckabee†	8,990,477	0	9,003,810	7,090,971	7,107,365
Sam Brownback †	3,653,570	0	4,374,058	4,295,606	4,368,746
Duncan Hunter †	2,321,563	130,000	2,496,085	2,275,986	2,299,490
Tommy Thompson †	1,024,992	196,000	1,226,129	1,213,274	1,223,567
Jim Gilmore †	357,986	34,804	404,881	384,026	388,426
Tom Tancredo †
Combined Total	216,421,324	38,682,501	261,352,810	220,607,703	231,099,307

Oh really.... hmm you was a mccain guy ... he did not make much more than RP did.... so what is your excuse now...

[billy_56081]

HMMMM I was always a who ever could defeat Obama guy. And Matt if 19 million aint much how bout you throw a couple of million my way.

Heck our friend DEE here was just slobbering and drooling over Sarah Palin like some Obama maniac. Heck he started a thread over it. Hten he flipped out and started bashing and nashing.

Heck DEE all pf our "yankee" states here voted Obama, I'd gather it's cuz of our influx of "TEXANS" That Eagle Pass, Texas must be one heck of a huge town as they all say thats where they from. 

Like I said if Ron Paul woulda been on the ticket he woulda got my vote. Facts is he wasn't

[kevthebassman]

Ron Paul is against the Iraq war, and that didn't sit well with Hannity and Limbaugh.   They trashed him, laughed at him, and then we got the most watered-down, pitiful excuse for a candidate we could possibly have gotten with the exception of Rudy Giuliani. 

[Matt]

HMMMM I was always a who ever could defeat Obama guy. And Matt if 19 million aint much how bout you throw a couple of million my way.

not good with numbers are ya... that would be 9,333,979 difference and only 6 if you take away the loan mccain gave himself so hmm yeah one RP money bomb would have evened things up so no I don't consider that a large difference in the grand scheme of things.

Though I will give you credit as I do remember you saying that you liked fred or RP but you did not seem eager to help any of the candidates in the primary but rather just sit back and wait and take who ever got the rep ticket... makes no sense to me but hey each to their own and what ever floats your boat...

Like I said if Ron Paul woulda been on the ticket he woulda got my vote. Facts is he wasn't

and like I said you did nothing to help him get there neither... did you...

[Dee]

Hey Matt. Per our emails. Ain't he great? Hear the echo?


kev, you are dead on. He was a klunker.

[Matt]

Hey Matt. Per our emails. Ain't he great? Hear the echo?

    thats some good stuff...