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Offline cridertj

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scoping my encore
« on: November 06, 2008, 09:11:52 AM »
i have an encore in 500 s&w and i also have a Simmons pro hunter scope off an old 44 mag i had and was wondering if you thought it would hold up to the 500 i know there are a lot better options out there but this is someting that i already have
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2008, 10:02:32 AM »
It will have a much better chance with a good mounting system well installed right.  A cheap scope can hold up fairly well if mounted right, and a great one can easily fail if poorly mounted.
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2008, 10:06:22 AM »
So to Keith's point use either Burris signature rings with the inserts or get a quality traditional setup and look into reaming/lapping the rings to relieve stress on the scope and to maximize ring-scope contact area.

Don't assume a gunsmith will know what to do - many either do not or could not be bothered to spend the time.
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2008, 05:10:11 PM »
The recoil of the S&W 500 mag in a Encore barrel is a lot. I have destroyed a few red-dots and a scope with mine.
All mounted correctly. I found the Leupold scopes will hold up, or the Ultra dot sights will hold up to the recoil of the 500 Mag. I also had a Bushnell hold up as well.

I say give it a try, unless you are not willing to take the chance.
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2008, 07:13:09 PM »
My bet is that your Simmons scope will be trashed in less than 100 rounds.  I also HIGHLY DOUBT that Burris signature rings will hold it in place.  If I were you, I would go with SSK Industries 4 ring, 6 screw T'SOB mount and get a scope that won't break (I use a Leupold VX III).

After shooting a 460 & 500 S&W for awhile, a 44 Mag. seems like somewhat of a woosie gun.
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2008, 07:03:17 AM »
i have not shot the 500 but 1s or twice but i do have a 270 do you think it has more recoil then the 500 or about the same
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2008, 07:50:37 AM »
If it were mine, I would put a Leupold base and rings on it with a Luepold 2x scope.  Use finger nail polish or 222 loc-tite on the screw threads.  You are good out to 100 yards for any critter in lower 48 which is about the limit of the 500 S&W anyway.  This is set up I have on a 260 Rem, 30 Bower Alaskan, 7mm Bower, 30-30, and 7x30 waters.  No problems to date with any of them.  (get the pointed bars or similar device and make sure your rings are aligned.)

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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 02:13:01 AM »
The 270 Winchester has a LOT LESS recoil than a 500 S&W Mag.
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 07:04:11 AM »
o.k. thanke for the info i did have this scope on the 270 for a while and it seemed to do ok i just thought the 270 and 500 would be about the same
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 01:07:45 AM »
Quote from: Grumulkin on November 06, 2008, 07:13:09 PM
My bet is that your Simmons scope will be trashed in less than 100 rounds.  I also HIGHLY DOUBT that Burris signature rings will hold it in place.  If I were you, I would go with SSK Industries 4 ring, 6 screw T'SOB mount and get a scope that won't break (I use a Leupold VX III).

After shooting a 460 & 500 S&W for awhile, a 44 Mag. seems like somewhat of a woosie gun.

I have never used 4 rings on any of my hand cannons. I have a 410 GNR 510 GNR 500 Mag 308 Win 475 Linebaugh and a 375 H&H in Encore handguns, not one has ever needed over 2 rings.  I have also just used 2 rings on my 454 Casull, 480 Ruger and S&W 460 Mag Encore barrels that I have sold, again not on problem with 2 rings.  My personal opinion it is just another gimmick to sell more rings, or a fashion statement. If a scope is mounted correctly, 2 rings are more the safecent.
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 04:36:22 PM »
My bet is the same.  The scope goes south after a box or two of rounds.  If you can take the eye relief, a Bushnell 3200 handgun scope (the elite, not trophy) will take a great deal of punishment.  Right now you can pick up one off of some of the forums cheap if they are the firefly model.  They sold for around 165 on a recent sale and some people did not like them, I think, because of the firefly recticle.  I bought one for my ruger 44 hunter and I am extremely pleased with it.  I never have had an elite model go bad.  I am sure some do, but they are pretty tough.  I saw one the other day for $125 I think.  The signature rings from burris will hold it in my experience if your base is solid and does not flex.
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Re: scoping my encore
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2008, 05:43:09 PM »
Quote from: Steve P on November 07, 2008, 07:50:37 AM
If it were mine, I would put a Leupold base and rings on it with a Luepold 2x scope.  Use finger nail polish or 222 loc-tite on the screw threads.  You are good out to 100 yards for any critter in lower 48 which is about the limit of the 500 S&W anyway.  This is set up I have on a 260 Rem, 30 Bower Alaskan, 7mm Bower, 30-30, and 7x30 waters.  No problems to date with any of them.  (get the pointed bars or similar device and make sure your rings are aligned.)

Steve :)

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