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Offline Sverre A.

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200 gr/44 Mag
« on: November 06, 2008, 10:23:00 AM »
I have good experience with Frontier`s FMJ`s in .357 and .454 - but "zero" concerning .44 Mag.

What do you think about Frontier`s FMJ 200 gr/1700 fps for animals up to 300 lbs?

This is a short bullet - and I`m little concerned about the penetration.

I know that the bullet is hard enough - but I`m worried about the length vs. diameter.

But maybe I`m totally wrong (have been that a lot of times  :()?

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Re: 200 gr/44 Mag
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2008, 11:24:33 AM »
What are you shooting at??

Typically FMJ aren't a "game" bullet

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Re: 200 gr/44 Mag
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2008, 11:34:50 AM »
big fan of MiesterCast 300 grainers...haven't hunted with them, but target performance seems very well, and with the non-expanding lead penitration will be good.
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

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Re: 200 gr/44 Mag
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2008, 02:12:11 PM »
ain't legal here to use FMJ for  hunting........and in all reality, for a .44mag, there's better options......unless you are huntin' two legged critters.
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Re: 200 gr/44 Mag
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2008, 02:46:57 PM »
Sverre:  No to the fmjs and no to 200 gns.  I would feel confident with a 240-300 gn cast swc, over any good formula using Unique, 2400, or H110/296 powders, leaving your barrel at 11-1200'/sec for game up to and beyond 300 lbs. 

Your concerns about penetration with a 200 gn bullet in 43 bore may well be justified.

Hard enough isn't the issue, you are correct.  It is the ratio of length to bore diameter that helps determine a bullets ability to penetrate.  Long and narrow penetrate better than short and fat, I feel. 

I don't think you're wrong at all.  This is exactly how lots and lots of guys, me included determine which caliber, bullet and load, rifle, pistol or shotgun we want to use for the specific hunting effort in which we are to be involved.

Have a go at it and let us know what you come up with.  Mikey.

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Re: 200 gr/44 Mag
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2008, 10:46:18 PM »
The Fronteir is a "CMJ"; really a plated lead bullet - much like what's popular for IPSC. That may be splitting hairs, but it's it's not swaged is what I'm getting at.

The designs are flat nose type shape, so I suppose the idea is that they are like a lead that's less likely to deform. The edge of the meplat is not as sharp as it could be - presumably due to the plating.

Sverre, have they made a 357 180gr with a crimp groove yet? Or are you using the 158's?


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Re: 200 gr/44 Mag
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2008, 05:21:32 AM »
WL: "have they made a 357 180gr with a crimp groove yet? Or are you using the 158's"

Still 158  :-[

Have you mounted the Docter?


Mikey: I tried some different loads today - and did not get any accuracy - so the bullet is out of buissness  ;)