What will the first acts of civil outrage and unrest be?

[lrs]

This is a different time, compared to the early 90's, when the Weaver and Waco incidents happened.
We still relied on the mainstream press for our information during that time.
Conservative radio and later the internet have given us a whole different perspective.
I did not understand what was occuring at that time. 
I do think conservatives would most definitely do battle, if there were no other way.
Don't sell us short. 

[Dee]

the loss of freedom of speech !

Oh my Lord! You mean they might PASS the McCain-Feingold Act?

[SHOOTALL]

Wouldn't you if you were them ?

[Redhawk1]

99% of Americans are sheep.  They will do nothing except what they are told..

How right you are........ It is sad, very sad. 

[Redhawk1]

the loss of freedom of speech !

Oh my Lord! You mean they might PASS the McCain-Feingold Act?

Dee give it a break already. 

[Dee]

the loss of freedom of speech !

Oh my Lord! You mean they might PASS the McCain-Feingold Act?

Dee give it a break already. 

Are you saying the McCain-Feingold Act is not an attempt a stiffeling freedom of speech? Or do you know?

[SHOOTALL]

wasn't that some of the reaching across BS ?

[deltecs]

Dee, I too belong to the Boy Scouts and have for over 45 years.  I'm an Eagle Scout and have lived up to those ideals all my life.  I'm sure many people will stand and not do anything to jeoprodize their community or business standing, however there are still some that will not violate personal principles or standby while others do.  Yes, no one really helped Weaver, but the media exposed this standoff more publicly than previous BATF abuses.  We firearms owners now know without a doubt what may transpire when they come knocking at a door and some if not many are going to resist.  That is a fact.

[bilmac]

It will take time for people to become enraged, there will be some martyrs but we are Americans.

[Explorer1]

I fully agree with Heather.  Have we not already seen the first acts of outrage with the violence associated with his election - the damage done by crowds the day of the election. Or the Panthers at the polling places threatening folks.

The schools have brain washed our kids, I doubt any unrest will include the youth in the early phases.  The utipian ideas have been implanted, we all must get along.

A bigger threat is the UN and use of UN "peace keeping forces" IMHO.  They have NO alligence to the US and many think we need to be taken down a few notches - an act His Self-appointed Highness ObamaOne has said he will do.

Beware Executive Orders and international treaties!

[torpedoman]

my best guess is that the sheep will willingly line up to be sheared

[lrs]

I hope you are wrong, but I don't know.

[SHOOTALL]

IF ANYONE BRAINWASHED THE KIDS ITS THE PARENTS THAT DID NOT GET OFF THEIR AZZ 30 YEARS AGO AND VOTE !
The problem to day started years ago when lazy people didn't vote cause they didn't care to do jury duty . Now the politicans kept taking cause no one cared ! Want to stop it get involved , vote , don't just run off at the mouth about how bad it is do something !
hope ya'll are wrong about the sheep thing !

[gypsyman]

45-70, I had considered this National Security force thing, being a job opportunity for the unemployed and minority's. Obama keeps talking about a quote''peace corps'' type organization. What better disguise to get a national police force, than possibly offering free housing and food, if you ''volunteer'' a couple years to a so called security force. Free food and housing for your family, if you join up. If I remember right, the Supreme court has already ruled on eminent domain, and it wasn't in our favor. What's to say the Fed's couldn't set up housing in housing projects, or shut down military bases for this purpose. 'Course some of you might just call this, a target enrich environment.  gypsyman

[bilmac]

A little prophecy

The Military is taken out of Iraq all right,    and sent to Africa and left there to die.
Guard units from red areas with any heavy arms go to Africa.
Obamas home guard is armed and equipped just as well as the regular army, He said that is what he wants to do.

[SHOOTALL]

where will the $$$$$$$ come from ?
This is what will stop him , LACK of FUNDS . That will cause rebellion faster than gun rights or speech !

[lrs]

A little prophecy

The Military is taken out of Iraq all right,    and sent to Africa and left there to die.
Guard units from red areas with any heavy arms go to Africa.
Obamas home guard is armed and equipped just as well as the regular army, He said that is what he wants to do.

I hope this is not put into play. 
If the rationale is that blue states national guard units would be more inclined politically to take orders along the lines of some leftist political agenda, or to stand down if some new type of security force acted against Americans, I don't think it would pan out that way.

[jimster]

Lot's of NG's would not follow those orders,  the government would have a problem as all governments do when cracking down on the people.  Since the people are pretty heavily armed in this country, and some military personnel and ex military would be on the side of the people, you would have a civil war and some trouble in lots of area's.  I also think when it's crackdown time, you'll hear about it ahead of time, and there will be pockets of people going on the offense and not waiting around in their little Alamo to die there.  I think GB mentioned earlier, there is only two choices, die, or give up and die later.  Some people in certain places will want to die standing up and not waiting for them to come to their house or neighborhood.  Once word gets out that is happening, rebellion spreads in some cases.   I hope to God that never happens in my life time.  If it does...there will be some leadership out there somewhere organizing something in some places.  Don't like to think about it, but it will happen at some point when the cycle goes from freedom to slavery again. 

[45-70.gov]

the  first  civil  outrage  should  be  to  quit  the  democratic  party
tell  registered democrats  they can  return to  work  after switching parties
make  sure  your  kids and  parrents  aren't Democrats

do  this  until   Jan 20  at least
hound  your congressman  to go  after  ACORN
clean  your gun  but  wear  out  that  phone  and  pen

[351 power]

none of my business but...   here in canada our previous liberal govt spent over 2 billion $ to register about 25% of the arms. this in a country of 30 million. they have no idea where most of the arms are. and the real police/military are far too busy to worry about guns that no one will give up. i can't even imagine how futile it would be for a govt to try and find the guns south of the border

[45-70.gov]

they  just  want  us to  bury  them
make  them  socially  unacceptable  like  drugs  and  smoking
they  will  crack  down  on  our  kids  and grand kids  when  we  are  gone  to  the old folks  home

[lrs]

Are your liberals as hell bent on destroying your country as ours appear to be?
The liberals we have are not well people. 

[351 power]

we just vote them out.

[deltecs]

we just vote them out.

It is one thing to vote them out after office, but another to repeal those liberal laws enacted while they were there.  I'd much rather they not get elected and not concern myself about liberal abuses of taxation and social structure.

[Dee]

Dee, I too belong to the Boy Scouts and have for over 45 years.  I'm an Eagle Scout and have lived up to those ideals all my life.  I'm sure many people will stand and not do anything to jeoprodize their community or business standing, however there are still some that will not violate personal principles or standby while others do.  Yes, no one really helped Weaver, but the media exposed this standoff more publicly than previous BATF abuses.  We firearms owners now know without a doubt what may transpire when they come knocking at a door and some if not many are going to resist.  That is a fact.

A Quote from the past;

First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then the came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
by Pastor Niemoller

The above is a likely scenario deltecs in my opinion. I have answered many a call to find an assault or even a murder took place while others watched, not wanting to be injured or get involved. Society will have to go thru some very tumultuous times, before the spoiled ones, and the lazy ones, realize they are all there is to do the dirty work.
Those pounding their chests, and making loud noises, will be the first to be made an example of, because of their own foolish and unthought of rantings. Most of those will go whimpering, has been my experience when the fight starts, if there even is a fight.
A few determined ones, with calm heads on their shoulders, and good character will be the ones I will want to make my stand with.

[nomosendero]

Dee, I too belong to the Boy Scouts and have for over 45 years.  I'm an Eagle Scout and have lived up to those ideals all my life.  I'm sure many people will stand and not do anything to jeoprodize their community or business standing, however there are still some that will not violate personal principles or standby while others do.  Yes, no one really helped Weaver, but the media exposed this standoff more publicly than previous BATF abuses.  We firearms owners now know without a doubt what may transpire when they come knocking at a door and some if not many are going to resist.  That is a fact.

A Quote from the past;

First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then the came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
by Pastor Niemoller

The above is a likely scenario deltecs in my opinion. I have answered many a call to find an assault or even a murder took place while others watched, not wanting to be injured or get involved. Society will have to go thru some very tumultuous times, before the spoiled ones, and the lazy ones, realize they are all there is to do the dirty work.
Those pounding their chests, and making loud noises, will be the first to be made an example of, because of their own foolish and unthought of rantings. Most of those will go whimpering, has been my experience when the fight starts, if there even is a fight.
A few determined ones, with calm heads on their shoulders, and good character will be the ones I will want to make my stand with.

Well said.

[torpedoman]

The first act shoud be change your W-2 for 10 dependants and 0$ withholding. cutting off washingtons money supply. very simple ,100% legal ,non violent, if the majority did this the government would go broke in a month. the way to get their attention is thru their money supply. REAL attention getter.

[Heather]

The first act shoud be change your W-2 for 10 dependants and 0$ withholding. cutting off washingtons money supply. very simple ,100% legal ,non violent, if the majority did this the government would go broke in a month. the way to get their attention is thru their money supply. REAL attention getter.

This would require unity!  We can't even come up with an idea that everyone on this site would back!  Our country is too torn for the limited # of people that would act to make a difference. 

Heather

[gypsyman]

Isn't the gov't broke now, as far as money? Their spending money that our kids havn't even made. gypsyman

[Dee]

Isn't the gov't broke now, as far as money? Their spending money that our kids havn't even made. gypsyman

Their spending money that our great great grandchildren that have not been born yet haven't made. They are a rouge government (Democrat AND Republican) gone on an unauthorized, Unconstitutional spending binge bailing out cronies and saving their own stock market investments.
They are borrowing money from China, bailing out banks where China owns much of the controling interest ALREADY. It is SINFUL.