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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2008, 04:23:06 AM »
My idea of private schools comes from the area where I live.  The local private schools have a higher standard and more DECIPLINE than the public schools.  Public schools have become breeders of Socialism and Liberalism.  Unless more good conservative teachers get into the system this will continue, therefore, if we could get vouchers so that people with kids could put their kids in good public schools or private schools, they would get a better education.  This is choice, not manditory public school.  The middle class has already voted by moving to suburbs and rural areas for better schools.  I live in Auburn, Alabama with the best public school system in the state.  There are several thousand people who live here and commute to Montgomery or Columbus, Georgia to work just because of the school system.  The state highway department local engineer, who is a friend of mine, told me that traffic count is 40,000 vehicles a day on I-85 between Mongtomery and Auburn.  Montgomery spends about $740 a year per pupil on public schools, Auburn spends $4,200.  Smaller classes, better surroundings, etc.  Montgomery has about 5-6 private schools, but the cost to commute is less than the cost of the private schools.  It is about a 45 minute drive at about 75mph. 

Newt Gingrich was right all along, LOAN the money at low or no interest, let the businesses sort out their own problem.  The government getting partial ownership is a waste of money and time.  Since when does a politician know what cars to build, or how to build them.  Same with the banks and lending institutions.  LOAN them money, but don't take them over like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  When government starts owning companies or parts of companies, it becomes socialism fast.  Even Karl Marx admitted that capitalism was the fastest way to prosperity, but he thought it left too many behind an poor.  We have social nets for that.  In my opinion it is their own fault.  You can't make people who party, spend all they make, having fun, not taking responsibiliy for their actions, not saving for the future or retirement, bascially blowing their oppoturnities, become thrifty, responsible, builders of homes and communities.  You can't always expect the ones who are to continue to support those who don't. 

Newt also wanted a rotating school system for high school and Jr. high.  Boys go to school every other day, Girls the next.  Give them all computers to do homework etc at home.  Classes would be cut in half, so teachers would have more control and give more individual attention.  The money saved from not having to hire more teachers and build more classrooms would be spent on the comptuers and systems.  Teachers would have to become computer literate, and well as students.  The Auburn school system gives computers to all 9th graders, who have all their books loaded on them with very stringent controls on internet use.  They do their homework on the computer.  Math, english, history, and some science.  They said the cost of the laptops given out is about the same as new books.  They take them up every summer and rebuild them and reload them.  We have to pay $50 a year for insurance for loss or damage.  Not too bad.  Back to what Newt said.  By keeping boys and girls seperated except at social events, it would cut down on teen pregnacy, disease, etc.  They would concentrate more on their school work.  Those kids who live in bad environments where their computers would be stolen or vandalized, they could expand librarys and computer centers for the kids to go to to do their work durning the day.  Makes a lot of sense to me. 

If the Republicans want to regain control, they must be against government take-over of private industries, loans and legal guidelines only for operating their business, which is what the SEC is for.  (Not sports, but Securities and Exchange Commission).  They must be for a closed border with Mexico, fence, guards, etc.  Send illegals home, like Ike did in the 50's with 2,000,000 Mexicans.  Rounded them up, put them on busses and boats, and put them out 200 miles below the border.  Let them figure out where they came from.  Republicans must also must prepare a comprehensive energy plan that would be minimum cost, but maximum benefit, promise to eliminate imported oil.  They must  also put tarriffs on cheap goods from overseas from countries who are not improving their work conditions and environment like we must do.  If they improve and continue to improve, the tarriffs can drop off.  Free trade must be fair trade.  No tarriffs should be placed on Canadian goods for instance, because their standards are so much like ours.  But from third world countries, before we trade with them, these stipulations must be put in place.  They must also get rid of the patriot act on American citizens, vow never to use American troops on American citizens, nor have foreign troops stationed on American soil, except for cross training purposes at military bases. 

Basically:

English the official language of the USA.

Deport illegals.

Eliminate imported oil and energy, especially from OPEC.

Build solar, wind, tide, and nuclear electric production facilities to replace coal, natural gas, and fuel oil.

Use coal for synthetic fuel, eliminate tarriffs on imported Brazilian sugar cane alcohol fuel.

Eliminate excise tax, income tax, etc, on hybrid vehicles.  Offset by increased tax on standard vehicles to level the costs to encourage hybrids.

Give tax breaks for insulation, or solar installation on your homes, and for buying a hybrid. 

As far as infrastructure goes, how about the government building an elevated high speed rail system in the mediuns of the interstates.  This could eliminate short haul air transportation.   Airlines and railroads and bus companies can buy high speed trains to operate on this system and pay taxes to use it for maintenance.  For instance instead of catching a plane flight from Montgomery to Atlanta, then changing planes for overseas or cross country, catch a high speed train from Montgomery to Atlanta.  Trains going 200 mph and having stops about every 100-150 miles would solve a transportation gap, which is the gap from about 70mph interstate to 600mph airlines. 

If the Republicans would address these issues, this would promote domestic job production, raise taxes with these better paying jobs, eliminate money going overseas to potential enemies, and make us more secure and independent from the world. 

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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2008, 05:25:32 AM »
Dixie Dude ... regarding schools

BTW ... I'm not involved in public education

Our local public schools are unionized and excellent. Both of the high schools place 90% (yes 90%) of their students in college. Please understand that your statements are generalized opinion and not necessarily facts.

I constantly see righties whine about the libs in the teaching profession. This always prompts me to ask why you think that there are not more conservatives in the teaching profession? I suspect that conservatives do not have enough of a committment to take low paying public service work in education. If this is such an issue, why hasn't the Republican party made it a mission to encourage conservatives to take teaching jobs? Conservatives are not prohibited from teaching ... tell your rightie counterparts to get off their a**es and get a teaching job ... if it is such a lamentable situation


Something I forgot to comment on, from your previous post ...

"Only cover two children begining at a certain date, after that date and after two kids, manditory sterilization if you continue to get government aid. "

This really creeped me out .. manditory sterilization is right out of the Nazi playbook ... I trust you don't really support creepy ideas like this. Maybe someday, someone will propose to sterilize all righties so they can't re-produce their kind


Bill T

"Of the 2 parties in this country, who do you think is more socialistic, and represents more social programs. This is a one word answer, please, no 3 paragraph dissertation.  Bill T."


It's a matter of perception ... while you see one side as more socialistic .. I see the other side as more social Darwinist

Let me ask you ... which side is more social Darwinistic?

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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2008, 05:41:00 AM »

Bill T

"Of the 2 parties in this country, who do you think is more socialistic, and represents more social programs. This is a one word answer, please, no 3 paragraph dissertation.  Bill T."


It's a matter of perception ... while you see one side as more socialistic .. I see the other side as more social Darwinist

Let me ask you ... which side is more social Darwinistic?


No, no way. I ask you a simple question that requires one single word to answer it, and you not only don't answer it, but turn it around into another question. Answer the question. Of the 2 political parties in this country, Republicans and democrats, which one do you feel represents a greater degree of socialism?   Bill T.

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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2008, 05:49:09 AM »
OK, manditory sterilization was too much, but just no more aid after two "mistakes".  

Teaching doesn't pay well for a college degree.  As such, conservatives go to higher paying jobs.  When I say liberal, believe me, liberal.  I have 7 children, youngest now is 16 and attends high school in Auburn.  My other kids went to a different school system.  I have had to constantly be on guard as to what they were being taught.  I had to counter what their teachers were telling them and teaching them.  I have had to go into the schools to talk to principals and teachers about this sometimes.  My wifes brother and sister-in-law are college professors at Auburn U. and both are liberal.  Never worked at a real job in the real world.  They are very naive about a lot of things.  My wife has ran a business, and I work with a private utility company and deal with private contractors on a daily basis.  Most teachers have no clue about free enterprise and individual initiative.  Most went from home, to college, to jobs within the "socialist" school system, thus they think the government can solve every problem and provide jobs, when the government doesn't "produce" and goods or products, it takes from private enterprise to function.  Trying to teach all kids at the same level.  Bright ones are often held back with the average kids.  Less intelligent ones are pushed along.  Everyone is not the same, not average.  Bright kids need to be let go to more advanced classes and moved along.  Less intelligent, need to be put in classes to master the basics and maybe learn some type of skill or trade.  Believe me, I have had both types of kids.  I home schooled them for the first 6 years.  Had two kids who never studied and made "A's".  School was boring.  Had one I had to help and work with constantly and he didn't finish high school until he was 20.  School system held back the smart ones and wouldn't advance them, but pushed the less smart one along even when he really wasn't ready.  This is more apparant in poorer and inner city school systems.  

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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2008, 05:56:30 AM »
Government is the "God" of communism, socialism, and athiesm.  It is supposed to solve all, be all, and do all for the people.  Private ownership of property, self determination, capitalism, freedom to choose, are the products of original American idealogy.  They tried communism at Jamestown in the early 1600's and it failed and they almost starved to death (sharing the produce and wealth).  They went back to private ownership of property and farms, and had an abundance the next year.  The ancient Greeks also tried communism and it failed them (sharing property and wealth).  Whenever you "spread the wealth around"  society as a whole goes down, standard of living goes down, production goes down, people get lazy, dependent on the "system" for their or part of their support.  This will hold us back and we will no longer be a leader in the world's economy.   

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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2008, 04:09:49 PM »
Yep, folks rail and whine about about socialism in the USA while buying all that cheap made in China crap from Mao Mart.  We are paying for our own destruction at the hands of the Chinese communists and most Republican and Democrat politicians in DC just love it.   


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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2008, 06:55:00 PM »
lrs is right ,in some Country's  like Switzerland , Norway , and even India , they are trained in their schools to recognize Liberalism at a young age.
It is treated as a Disorder ,and is stopped before it spreads.
Any of you know what really happened to Carl Marx ?
He was committed as clinically insane , he died in that Asylum.


Things have changed since Karl Marx. Now days we send the insane to Congress where they stay until they die in office.

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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2008, 07:12:56 AM »
lrs, my sister is a Psychologist in Missouri , she was  one of those fence sitting Liberals for years.
She went and studied in Switzerland for about four years and when she came back she had an entirely different opinion of things.
I wouldn't say she is Conservative ,but she sure doesn't drink the Kool Aid anymore.
Now she is one of those State People ,who now go around looking at the findings of these Liberal Doctors who's Politics get in the way of a true diagnosis of a Child having problems in School.
ADD is way over used to be an excuse to drug up a child instead of working to find the real problems.
The Father of a child is always the cause ,some kids have been actually brain washed into saying things like this ,especially if the Father is a Hunter.
She says it isn't Guns , The Swiss have Guns ,yet in no way do they have the crime we do.
It is how we approach Crime , here it is a Racial thing , instead of something that is prosecuted as a Crime and not the Guns fault.
Yes collective Liberalism is a VERY dangerous thing , resulting in the break down and destruction of a Society attempting to keep the basic spirit of Freedom subdued in the People it rules over.
Its closest Relative is a Monarchy , what are all these rich Liberals going to do in a true Socialist Society ?
Are they going to continue living in their 5 Million dollar homes ?
If they make a Movie ,who will be able to pay to go see it ?
When these States see the end of Revenue from the Firearms Industry ,where are they going to get a replacement for that money if we are all a bunch of Subjects ?
Socialism doesn't work ,it only eats its young , look at England ,they have cameras watching cameras.
Dr.Froyed called it for what it is ,A snake eating its own tail.
In this time i Command ,That you take the Secular to Jerusalem .
There you rid the Holy City of the Scourge of Islam , Make the streets run red with the Blood of those who wish to wash Israel and Christianity from the face of the Earth.
Constantine III

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Re: Why Democrats Are Idiot's
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2008, 09:25:20 AM »
the Clintons went to Washington middle class and left rich ,
think crazy like a fox !
If ya can see it ya can hit it !