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white guilt
« on: November 15, 2008, 01:43:45 AM »
By Tom Adkins


Look at my fellow conservatives! There they go, glumly shuffling along, depressed by the election aftermath. Not me. I’m virtually euphoric. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not thrilled with America ’s flirtation with neo socialism. But there’s a massive silver lining in those magical clouds that lofted Barak Obama to the Presidency. For today, without a shred of intellectually legitimate opposition, I can loudly proclaim to America : The Era of White Guilt is over.

This seemingly impossible event occurred because the vast majority of white Americans didn’t give a fluff about skin color, and enthusiastically pulled the voting lever for a black man. Not just any black man. A very liberal black man who spent his early career race-hustling banks, praying in a racist church for 20 years, and actively worked with America-hating domestic terrorists. Wow! Some resume! Yet they made Barak Obama their leader. Therefore, as of Nov 4th, 2008, white guilt is dead.

For over a century, the millstone of white guilt hung around our necks, retribution for slave-owning predecessors. In the 60s, American liberals began yanking that millstone while sticking a fork in the eye of black Americans, exacerbating the racial divide to extort a socialist solution. But if a black man can become President, exactly what significant barrier is left? The election of Barak Obama absolutely destroys the entire validation of liberal white guilt. The dragon is hereby slain.

So today, I’m feeling a little “uppity,” if you will. From this day forward, my tolerance level for having my skin color hustled is now exactly ZERO. And it’s time to clean house. No more Reverend Wright’s “God Damn America ,” Al Sharpton’s Church of Perpetual Victimization , or Jesse Jackson’s rainbow racism. Cornell West? You’re a fraud. Go home. All those “black studies” programs that taught kids to hate whitey? You must now thank Whitey. And I want that on the final.

Congressional Black Caucus? Irrelevant. Maxine Waters? Shut up. ACORN? Outlawed. Black Panthers? Go home and pet your kitty. Black separatists? Find another nation that offers better dreams. Go ahead. I’m waiting.

Gangsta rappers? Start praising America . Begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. And please…no more ebonics. Speak English, and who knows where you might end up? Oh, yeah…pull up your pants. Your underwear is showing. You look stupid.

To those Eurosnots who forged entire careers hating America ? I’m still waiting for the first black French President.

And let me offer an equal opportunity whupping. I’ve always despised lazy white people. Now, I can talk smack about lazy black people. You’re poor because you quit school, did drugs, had three kids with three different fathers, and refuse to work. So when you plop your Colt 45-swilling, Oprah watchin’ butt on the couch and complain “Da Man is keepin’ me down,” allow me to inform you: Da Man is now black. You have no excuses.

No more quotas. No more handouts. No more stealing my money because someone’s great-great-great-great grandparents suffered actual pain and misery at the hands of people I have no relation to, and personally revile.

It’s time to toss that massive, obsolete race-hustle machine upon the heap of the other stupid 60s ideas. Drag it over there, by wife swapping, next to dope-smoking. Plenty of room right between free love and cop-killing. Careful…don’t trip on streaking. There ya go, don’t be gentle. Just dump it. Wash your hands. It’s filthy.

In fact, Obama’s ascension created a gargantuan irony. How can you sell class envy and American unfairness when you and your black wife went to Ivy League schools, got high-paying jobs, became millionaires, bought a mansion, and got elected President? How unfair is that??? Now, Like a delicious O'Henry tale, Obama’s spread-the-wealth campaign rendered itself moot by it's own victory!  America is officially a meritocracy. Obama’s election has validated American conservatism!

So, listen carefully…Wham!!!

That’s the sound of my foot kicking the door shut on the era of white guilt. The rites have been muttered, the carcass lowered, dirt shoveled, and tombstone erected. White guilt is dead and buried.

However, despite my glee, there’s apparently one small, rabid bastion of American racism remaining. Black Americans voted 96% for Barak Obama. Hmmm. In a color-blind world, shouldn’t that be 50-50? Tonight, every black person should ask forgiveness for their apparent racism and prejudice towards white people. Maybe it’s time to start spreading the guilt around. 

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Re: white guilt
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 02:32:07 AM »
Very good post!
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Re: white guilt
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 02:48:55 AM »
In 47 years of working in the south (Dallas) before I retired, the most racist people I met were middle aged black men.
It was uncommon to meet one that didn't have a chip on his shoulder concerning the whites he worked around. Sometimes it was covert, most times it was overt.
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Re: white guilt
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 03:02:50 AM »
The term "white guilt" absolutely had to be invented by a POS leftist liberal. Ironicaly by a white person, probably.

Sorry, but as a white guy living the American dream, I can honestly say I have never ever once in my lifetime ever felt guilty for being white, and have never felt guilty simpley because others in the country, for the most part, chose to become degenerate crackheads, thugs, or irresponsible baby making machines, or otherwise took up the career of "inmate" and became proud of it.

"Guilt" best decribes the sorrow of ones choices, not for an attribute you are born with.
 
However I do get the jist of the article and agree with it.

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Re: white guilt
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 03:25:40 AM »

 Good post Redhawk, Best to you.    Marv.

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Re: white guilt
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 06:04:33 AM »
Never felt guilty myself, at least not because of my skin color . My ancestors were never in a place that would cause me to be either.
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Re: white guilt
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2008, 06:56:53 AM »
Only stupid Americans feel or felt quilt for being white. No one is responsable for their skin color. So feeling quilt is a sign of stupidity.

None of the black people today were ever slaves and none of the white people today were ever slave owners. So all the BS about slavery and quilt is a farse made up by selfish, self centered and self serving politicians that simply use it for political purposes. Unfortuniatly, too many people have swollowed the BS hook, line & sinker. Of course, with lots of help from the main stream media outlets and our public school systems who are all awell aligned for thier own selfish interests. Mostly all about Money & power.
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Re: white guilt
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 07:00:20 AM »
I believe some have missed the point, it is not about individual guilt,
i have never felt guilty myself. It is about the "white guilt" that black children have
been taught by  black leaders for years, the reason you are beat down,
kept down, become crack heads, live and depend on welfare, is because
the white man is in charge and keeps you down. Well guess what the BLACKMAN
is now in charge, so they can no longer use "white guilt" to keep telling
each other why they won't work, why they don't have a chance. It not
about you as an individual it is all "Whites" Now THE MAN has arrived, if
they can't get up and do some thing it is his fault.
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Re: white guilt
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 07:35:09 AM »
Rex6666, great post. 

After serving 24 years in the military and working in close contact with many blacks I have to agree with much of this post.  I hold no hard feelings, nor do I deny, or object, to any persons due to their race, color or creed.

Let me say here, I have worked with,  and been friend with many great and good black people, both male and female, but most that I had contact with did have a chip on their shoulder, they wanted to hold someone responsible for their forefathers being held as slaves.  Although I am from the south, and had relatives that served under General Lee I never owned or contributed in any way for their ancestors being slaves, why blame me? Lots of blacks do.

Hopefully this will serve to heal.

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Re: white guilt
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 10:12:11 AM »
Don't get me wrong I think slavery was/is a terrible thing and most slaves suffered dearly.  However, where would the majority of blacks be today if their ancestors had not been dragged to this country kicking and screaming?  If they think they have it rough here I say let them go 'home' to Africa and see how well they like it there.

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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 10:44:08 AM »
This article was posted in Today's Important News along with an article from Walt Williams regarding a similar conclusion.  For those interested in reading it http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,156461.0.html  .
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2008, 01:18:08 PM »
Thanks for the Link. I never miss a chance to read William's columns when I can. One of the smartest guys writing a column.

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Re: white guilt
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 02:02:49 PM »
I believe some have missed the point, it is not about individual guilt,
i have never felt guilty myself. It is about the "white guilt" that black children have
been taught by  black leaders for years, the reason you are beat down,
kept down, become crack heads, live and depend on welfare, is because
the white man is in charge and keeps you down. Well guess what the BLACKMAN
is now in charge, so they can no longer use "white guilt" to keep telling
each other why they won't work, why they don't have a chance. It not
about you as an individual it is all "Whites" Now THE MAN has arrived, if
they can't get up and do some thing it is his fault.

Very true... And that is what I got out of the post.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 02:09:14 PM »
Quote from: Brett link

There are blacks and there are niggers, niggers come in all colors and ethnicity's.

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Brett you are correct. There is a very distinct difference in the two. Anyone from the south will have no problem telling the difference.

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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2008, 04:22:59 PM »
    I believe "white guilt" is a term that wealthy liberals created and used because they have a difficult time dealing with the past.   As far as I'm concerned, I have no guilt.   My ancestors were Scottish immigrants and Cherokee Native Americans. 
    Many here know the injustice placed upon the Cherokee but I find far fewer know the fact that the surname "McGregor" was outlawed in the English reign of Scotland.   Any male carrying that name was to be hung.  Many others were virtual indentured "slaves" to the English.    That is why many McGregor's migrated to North America in the 1700's,  to seek their freedom. 
    My Scottish immigrant ancestors did not own slaves nor did they support slavery.  They honored individual freedom and the God given right for an individual to work as hard as he/she wished to improve their lot in life.

 

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Re: white guilt
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2008, 04:53:35 PM »
 i totally agree. white guilt for what.. plenty of white wrong an right,,the same for black
  ,,got nothing to do with color unless you buy into whats considered politically correct ,,by the media.. i swear i thought david letterman was going to offer to lay down so opra w.. an morgan freemans feet wouldn have to douch the floor.. he made me sick .. i think he embarrassed them..my position is this .. ive had my butt ked real well in a milwaukee park by three black fellas .. because i was white..
 i think back and i don t know of a time in history where a race fought a war among itself to try an establish true equeality among men..no dam guilt here.. i callum my brothers in the lord .. but no guilt.. the thing makes me sick is that they[some] still playin that song .. i got no patience with that..thiers no real way to know the stats of black on white crime versus white on black crime..
 i know what i suspect .. i ll promise you it would not be an politically correct opinion..
having said that i refuse to judge a man because of color or creed ..unless that creed is to eliminate me.. then ,,i get totally unreasonable..

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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2008, 02:16:59 AM »
I'm beginning to feel the pangs of 'Norse Guilt'.  My ancestors were the Vikings who raided, pillaged and enslaved many people all over Europe and the North Atlantic.  So I hope all you Brits, French, Italians, Germans, Russians, Irish, Scots, Portuguese, and whoever else I may have missed would find it in your hearts to forgive me.  :'(  ;)
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Re: white guilt
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2008, 03:01:15 AM »
I think a lot of you are missing the point......

Read this one more time...

The Blacks will have no more excuse as to why they are being held back by the White Man (THE MAN).
Where have some of you been hiding that you miss the point of the post?

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Quote from: rex6666 on Yesterday at 01:00:20 PM
I believe some have missed the point, it is not about individual guilt,
i have never felt guilty myself. It is about the "white guilt" that black children have
been taught by  black leaders for years, the reason you are beat down,
kept down, become crack heads, live and depend on welfare, is because
the white man is in charge and keeps you down. Well guess what the BLACKMAN
is now in charge, so they can no longer use "white guilt" to keep telling
each other why they won't work, why they don't have a chance. It not
about you as an individual it is all "Whites" Now THE MAN has arrived, if
they can't get up and do some thing it is his fault.


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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2008, 03:29:10 AM »
I have never figured out WHY they wanted to blame the people in this country for the SLAVERY issue, when it was their ANCESTORS who SOLD them into slavery!!  I never owned any of them and dont even want to own one so I have no guilty concence it is a non issue to me when that rederect starts I speak my piece abt. it and just walk away from the conversation and dont let it be a part of my life.   Jim

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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2008, 03:40:43 AM »
Hey, great inciteful posts, but don't begin to think that it's over.  Some blacks are already denying Obama is the real messiah.  You see, he is only half black and as such, he cannot know what being a real black is all about.  He ain't real man.  He's still half-the-man.  If there's one drop of white blood--he's still the man.
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Re: white guilt
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2008, 03:58:30 AM »
I don't think folks are misunderstanding anything about the article Redhawk1 they are merely stating that they never have felt any guilt and that those who have are rather stupid to do so.

Since not a single white person living today has ever owned slaves in the US and not a single black living here has ever been a slave and since that has been the case for quite a lot of years it is a silly thing to even contemplate. No one has kept down the blacks who want to better themselves in at least 40-50 years or more. They have no one but themselves to blame for their situation and haven't for a long time.

The blacks who've made a nice living off the backs of other blacks perpetuating this lie just might have to look for another way to make a living now but even that is doubtful. They will likely just put a new spin on it and keep on keeping on spreading racism and hate just as they always have.


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Re: white guilt
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2008, 03:59:56 AM »
Guys it has absolutely nothing to do with you as an individual, or if you are
Scotch, Irish, German, English, or Native American. It is because white men
200 years ago held them as slaves, and their leaders are using this as a reason
that the white man owes them "white guilt" Just like Brett wanting to say he is sorry
for the way his ancestors acted, CRAP, Brett wasn't even thought of at the time.
Ever hear the Black leaders that want to bring the people together, say anything about paying the Native Americans for the way they were treated. I know slavery
was terrible " i had nothing to do with it, and neither did you". After the Civil war
America bought land in Africa so the freed slaves could go home, some did not,
they CHOSE to stay here. Ever since they have blamed every thing on the white man
"white guilt" Well now the white man as a whole has proven he is not racist, now
you have a BLACK MAN running the country, so you can now blame some else
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2008, 05:39:59 AM »
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I'm beginning to feel the pangs of 'Norse Guilt'.  My ancestors were the Vikings who raided, pillaged and enslaved many people all over Europe and the North Atlantic.  So I hope all you Brits, French, Italians, Germans, Russians, Irish, Scots, Portuguese, and whoever else I may have missed would find it in your hearts to forgive me.


Ok Brett, seeing as I am of English, Irish and Scottish descent, I'm holding you responsible.  Now, how about my forty acres and a mule?   :D
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2008, 06:19:39 AM »
I think Martin Luther King was one of the greatest people of the last century.  He preached that we should judge a man by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin.
I see MLK as a Godly man, a man who loved his fellow man. 
I see today's civil rights leaders as men filled with hate.
MLK is celebrated in this county, by black and white people alike, and deservedly so.
I think many black people choose to ignore MLK's true intent. 
Over 90% voted for a genuine demagogue, voting solely on the basis of skin color.
There was a time black people truly were oppressed by racist white people. 
Most white have bent over backwards the past 40 yards trying to change this.
I have never discriminated against a black person, and I have never done anything that would bring harm to a black person. 
I can not say the reverse is true.
As much as I see bo as a reincarnation of hitler, I see many black people as pre-WW2 germans.  Those that later became devoted nazis.
I see the word racist used to bitterly vilify anyone who does not subscribe to a certain political belief.
If a person is branded as racist in today's America, they are ruined as a total pariah.  This is used as means of controlling political ideas and discussions.
* Just speaking for myself * although I think being a racist is bad,  I think there are some things worse. 
Being a modern day liberal, a democrat, a socialist, a traitor, a moron, a liar, an acting president selling out his country, these are ALL worse than being racist.
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Re: white guilt
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2008, 06:32:11 AM »
MLK was an agitator, financially supported from Moscow because it was in the Soviet interest to stir up civil unrest in the USA.
When he didn't get the Key to a city he reminded the city fathers that Rap Brown and the BP's would come into town after he left without the "key"

 Blacks will contiue to blame the Whites, just as GB wrote, they will find something. It is a mind set and just because the "Mutt" has got the job will not be enough to change that.




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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2008, 06:48:36 AM »
BBF I don't know who you are, but your signatures, are troubling, dangerous, sick and make the rest of us look bad.
I wish you would go somewhere else.  If this is a reflection of the people on this forum, don't bother, I'll go.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2008, 02:55:22 PM »
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I'm beginning to feel the pangs of 'Norse Guilt'.  My ancestors were the Vikings who raided, pillaged and enslaved many people all over Europe and the North Atlantic.  So I hope all you Brits, French, Italians, Germans, Russians, Irish, Scots, Portuguese, and whoever else I may have missed would find it in your hearts to forgive me.


Ok Brett, seeing as I am of English, Irish and Scottish descent, I'm holding you responsible.  Now, how about my forty acres and a mule?   :D

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Re: white guilt
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2008, 04:15:29 AM »
BBF I don't know who you are, but your signatures, are troubling, dangerous, sick and make the rest of us look bad.
I wish you would go somewhere else.  If this is a reflection of the people on this forum, don't bother, I'll go.

I don't know what was in MLK's heart and in the end, it will be between him and God. He preached excellent values and is still widely quoted today as you know.

Many to include the likes of my father in law (a 25yr straight laced Airforce member) along with my father and many, many, more honest hard working folks did not like MLK because when he spoke at a City, a riot often followed.
When the Rioting started, MLK was nowhere to be found. You would have thought that he had the ability to quell these riots quickly but that was not happening which angered and saddened the folks that I mention.

I am by no means bad mouthing MLK but am sincerely trying to reflect on what was actually happening at that time. Perhaps I am missing out on something?...it could be as I was a kid at that time but was aware enough to feel the anger & saddness of folks that you would be proud to have known.