Author Topic: who would be interested in pirate hunting? (Read 2933 times)

myronman3 · « **on:** November 19, 2008, 04:13:59 AM »

here is an idea... with all the stories of the pirates raiding ships off of somolia, and all the money they are making....why not have armed security crews on those ships. a force of ten properly trained guys armed with the right stuff (a few 50 bmg sniper with night vision and heat signature sights, or even a few mini guns along with other small arms) should be able to stop attempts at hijacking a given ship. with cargos worth 100 million dollars, what would 500,000 for a well armed security force be? seems like cheap insurance to me.

anyone here, other than me, care to go pirate hunting?

skifastchad · « **Reply #1 on:** November 19, 2008, 05:32:00 AM »

India and the UK have navy frigates and destroyers accompanying their own country's cargo ships through the Gulf of Aden, and its not stopping the pirates. If they have been engaging navy destroyers, how would a 50cal rifle hold them off?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #2 on:** November 19, 2008, 06:20:12 AM »

WHY AREN'T THESE SHIPS ARMED!!??

cochise · « **Reply #3 on:** November 19, 2008, 06:36:45 AM »

I wonder if the arabs allowed the location of their ship to leak so the pirate incident could occur and then they could use it as an excuse to jack up gas prices again. If there is a spill the prices could skyrocket again like the exon valdez thing. Too bad the eyeranians don't seek retribution against their somali muslim "brothers" for grabbing that other ship. A few cruise missiles from eyeran hitting the pirate towns on the somali coast would be a big favor to humanity.

skifastchad · « **Reply #4 on:** November 19, 2008, 06:43:46 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on November 19, 2008, 06:20:12 AM

WHY AREN'T THESE SHIPS ARMED!!??

Geneva Convention

stuffit · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2008, 06:56:06 AM »

Let 'em stew in their own juice. Seems as if the involved parties (pirates and their prey) deserve each other.
s.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2008, 07:27:34 AM »

Quote from: skifastchad on November 19, 2008, 06:43:46 AM

Quote from: 45-70.gov on November 19, 2008, 06:20:12 AM
WHY AREN'T THESE SHIPS ARMED!!??

Geneva Convention

explain the geneva convention

our 2nd amendmend doesn't apply as part of our constitution
but our constitution DOES state that is a right in born in all men endowed by their creator etc.ect
SO THE GENEVA CONVENTION VIOLATES THE SEAMANS CIVIL RIGHTS
and don't we up hold civil rights violations

and how do they define armed ect
i will not go on a boat unarmed [but i am not comercial]

myronman3 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 19, 2008, 07:38:13 AM »

Quote from: skifastchad on November 19, 2008, 05:32:00 AM

India and the UK have navy frigates and destroyers accompanying their own country's cargo ships through the Gulf of Aden, and its not stopping the pirates. If they have been engaging navy destroyers, how would a 50cal rifle hold them off?

lets say you are trying to get on the ship i am on. lets say you are using speedboats on the high seas to try to pull said attempt off. lets say you are armed with ak 47's and rpg's. let's say that with my mini gun or 50 cal that i can smoke your arse 4 times as far off as you can shoot. and lets say that i dont have to do much except put a hole in your boat and leave you to swim. it is pretty hard to board a ship when you cant get with a half mile of it.
they say that it is such a huge area they cant have armed ships patrol it all. so why not put armed security on each ship?

Spanky · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2008, 07:45:21 AM »

Myronman,

Now this sounds like FUN!!
It's been a while since I been on float.
It'd be great to introduce some pirates to "Ma Deuce"

SIGN ME UP!!!

Spanky

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #9 on:** November 19, 2008, 07:49:49 AM »

they bite back !

myronman3 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 19, 2008, 07:59:39 AM »

it seems to me a fellow could make quite a bit of money pulling security; like i said, 100 million in cargo, what is another 500,000 to secure it?
a few floats and a fellow should be set. and, if you get to engage, you get to smoke some pirates. my guess is the second they realize their 'soft' target is actually hard, they will haul pick an easier target. like i said, they would have one hell of a gauntlet to run to even get in range of their weapons. and, i wouldnt restrict myself to just a sniper 50, i wouldnt be against dusting off 'old painless'.
what is better than smoking a bunch of pirates? smoking a bunch of somolian pirates. did i forget to mention that i hate skinnies? it is almost like i am looking for an excuse, isnt it?

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #11 on:** November 19, 2008, 08:10:59 AM »

On the news today they say they can not find them in such a large body of water,i find that very interesting as they also say you can spot a dime from 5 miles out in space.How large is an oil tanker?

myronman3 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 19, 2008, 08:38:35 AM »

i aint talking looking for them. i am talking about riding on a transport, and let the wolves come to the bait. then shoot as many wolves as you can before they run off. oh, and the important part...GETTING PAID to do it.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #13 on:** November 19, 2008, 08:51:59 AM »

how do you know they will run off ?

myronman3 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 19, 2008, 09:08:09 AM »

well if not, even better. but that is the game, isnt it? properly armed, you can stack the odds in your favor. and, i love to scratch the itch on my trigger finger. especially on skinnies. did i mention i hate skinnies?

myronman3 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 19, 2008, 09:10:13 AM »

oh, and as an added bonus, i would dress up as the joker whilest doing the deed. purple suit and everything. how would you like seeing that on youtube?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #16 on:** November 19, 2008, 09:15:53 AM »

my sources [television] tell me there are mercinary escorts for hire

the UN and people that care [want power] are doing what ever to stop this

but i think just a few barrets or even 1/2 dozen single shots in bmg would go a long way

not to mention some full auto stuff

myronman3 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 19, 2008, 09:23:05 AM »

where would one put up a 'for hire' add? anyone else want it?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #18 on:** November 19, 2008, 09:43:23 AM »

what is a skinny??

and what is considered armed on a commercial boat

most sh imp boats i know of have means to protect them selves

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #19 on:** November 19, 2008, 09:44:23 AM »

Maybe Soilder of Fortune

myronman3 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 19, 2008, 10:12:36 AM »

Quote

what is a skinny??

somolians. i looked on the net. nothing definitive. it has always been my dream to get paid for touching the trigger, without all the other b.s. that goes with being a grunt. sitting back on a ship, under a sun umbrella, searching the seven seas for targets of opportunity. sounds mighty fine, mighty fine indeed.

Troyboy · « **Reply #21 on:** November 19, 2008, 12:31:25 PM »

If you are serious I'll go.Don't need but 100,00 every six months though

Brett · « **Reply #22 on:** November 19, 2008, 02:29:23 PM »

If I was 20 years younger with no wife and young child to be concerned about it sounds like it would be a cool gig.

I had a buddy who joined the Coast Guard right out of High School, he used to tell us lots of stories about smoking drug runners and smugglers of the southern coast of the US. When they came upon a suspect vesel they would hail them telling them to stop and prepare to be boarded for inspection. If they ran they would fire a couple warning shots from the bow mounted gun over them and would order them to stop again. If they continued to run they would tear into them until they surrendered or sank. I always though man that must be a great job.

Of course then he would tell us about pulling duty in the North Sea in February.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2008, 02:48:14 PM »

They aint gonna have anything that produces a spark on an oil tanker. Oil tankers are constantly venting natural gas which seeps from the oil. Water cannons are one of the few defences and shear size.

myronman3 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 19, 2008, 02:52:00 PM »

i got the wife and kids, but if i could get hired, she would have to deal with it. i would imagine there would be hell to pay, until a guy came home with the first paycheck, that is. as much as she likes to shoot, she would most likely want to leave me at home while she went pirate hunting. we it sounds like we have a couple of people ready to sign on.... now all we need to do is get hired....

seriously, if i could get hired doing it, my butt would do it in a heartbeat. i have a few experienced buddies that i know would sign on so long as they were paid. and, most likely a few more buddies that arent experienced that would sign on just to smoke some skinnies, just for the fun of it. i could do it as a vacation. think of it...in the middle of january, while it is 30 below zero at home, i would be sitting in the warm sun, sipping on some iced tea, exercising my trigger finger. it would be like praire dog shooting only better, because you wouldnt need a license and, because you would be shooting skinnies instead of praire dogs. did i mention i dont like skinnies?

thinking about smoking a few of their devil-worshipping butts puts a big greasy smile across my face.

myronman3 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 19, 2008, 02:54:23 PM »

wouldnt have to be an oil tanker. they are seizing anything they can. how much money you think was on that russian ship? i am telling you, my security force would be a bargin.

powderman · « **Reply #26 on:** November 19, 2008, 03:03:43 PM »

BILLY. I didn't know that, thanks. What is the range of those rpgs??? What will they penetrate?? I always figured a few m14s and some laws rockets would do the trick. What is the range of a laws??? Gotta be something they can do. Private security force seems the way to go. Would it be fun??? You bet, target practice. I'm tickled to death the Indian navy sunk one, reportedly a mother ship. They showed some captured pirates on the news last night. They should be shot on site, as soon as captured. Somebody's paying ransom, or they would stop this crap. POWDERMAN.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #27 on:** November 19, 2008, 03:44:57 PM »

Maybe the oil tankers could have a small gun ship in tow. Some 20-30mm chain guns with gun cameras. Great youtube stuff. Myronman running the guns with his face paint on, scare the pirates bad.

Cheese

myronman3 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 19, 2008, 03:51:46 PM »

i hear you on them m14's but i figure why give them a chance? cold smoke them; the best enemy is one who never even stood a chance.

best info i can find on rpg's is maximum range is 250 meters, so triple that up, i come up with 750m, or lets just call it an even 1000 just for fun. imagine trying to run up on a ship with a speed boat, if there is a team of guys sitting up with a few 50's and a minigun or two when all you got is a few ak 47's and some rpg's that you need to get within 1000 yards to have a chance in hell of hitting anything (ships are big, so we will figure an area target). the 50 bmg can take out targets over a mile away. the more i talk about it the more i like it.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 19, 2008, 03:52:10 PM »

An excellent weapon ofr a tanker would be an air booster launched rocket. One thing I don't think alot of the merchant Marines are killers. Myronman, if you are serious about doing this, understand, killing, some it bothers some it don't. When fighting an enemy it is best to consider them as a lesser being. That was all part of the names of our enemies in the past, Japs, Krauts, Gooks, Sand Niggers, ect. ect. I would guess the pirates are like most bullies, bloody thier nose a bit and they will run. Who knows, the Russian arms ship was probably a shipment to them and the Ruskies are just calling it paracy to not let it be known that they are dealing arms.