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Re: sks question.
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2008, 06:59:58 AM »
I have to agree with Mr. Gibson on this one. Running shots are difficult at best, not something you should try without shooting a lot. Even then they are not the ideal situation and you will be presented with better shots. Slow down and take your time to avoid the same situation your just found yourself in. You will learn to let her go or try to circle her and get a better shot instead of flinging them at a moving target. Offhand is a poor position if you're shaking like you indicate. If a rest (which is the ideal situation) is not available , at least go to kneeling, you'll be surprised at how much more steady you will be.
Get more shooting time in period, you're shooting one of the cheapest centerfires to feed. It's nice to be able to hit the bull on a target, but can you pick a spot 2 inches high and 2 right and shoot that spot? Practice from multiple positions with and without a rest and time yourself to put a little pressure on making the shot on a target before you have to make it on game. Shoot at random distances if possible to get a feel for how your load hits at a particular range and to help learn to judge distance.
Hunting small game with a .22 will also help improve all of your skills from stalking/stillhunting to pulling the trigger. Start hitting squirrels and rabbits and deer will seem easier to pick a spot on. We all make mistakes, it's how we go about correcting them that determines whether there will be a better outcome next time.
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Re: sks question.
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2008, 08:10:56 AM »
Something else you might consider is finding a hunting partner that has some experience in the field.  If you're totally new to hunting, having someone that knows the ropes can be pretty helpful.  He/she might be able to identify what is or is not a good shot to attempt and generally help you be prepared for your next outing.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2008, 03:57:48 PM »
i have hunted since i was around 5 i am now 18 i hunt with a guy that is 16 and he does quite well also. i shoot alot of rabbit and squirrel with .22 rifles and pistols i dont get shaky over rabbits or squirrels a squirrel i find a easy target for my scoped .22 which is only accurate .22 rifle have killed 8 or 9 so far with a 6 inch .22 revolver also. and numerous rabbits. the morning on the deer i was cold sick and as ive said im nervous on a deer i shot and clean missed when she was moving but she stopped i steadied mostly and squeezed it off. and yes i pulled the shot to far back. the whole point of this thread is because i just wondered if anyone had had a deer get away and never finding blood after one knows they it the deer.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2008, 02:27:11 AM »
Back to the original topic, which is related to experience.
When in doubt on a marginal hit deer back out and let them lay up for a few hours to overnight depending on the shot. There's a good chance they'll be laying in the next spot they bed if it's a killing shot. Sounds like you pushed too much on following up the deer after a poor shot.
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Re: sks question.
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2008, 06:57:50 AM »
i did push pretty ard tryin to find her. we gave up and went in for about 2 or 3 hours and looked over the area again to see if we might have missed something in the first place.

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Re: sks question - scope mounts
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2008, 07:17:26 PM »
Mounting a scope of an SKS is not easy - but it can be done, even with the typically bad receiver cover mounts.  The key is SLOW AND CAREFUL FITTING.  My first attempt ended with a loose cover and mount.  The second time I was careful and ended up with a fit that is absolutely rock solid.  No movement at all.  In fact, it takes a punch to remove the cover's pin!

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2008, 01:51:14 PM »
since the cover on mine is so tight ive considered welding the rings to it but i changed that idea fast. i like the mount i have the b square mount i would like to get a tap and die set and attach it it the reciever so it would be extremely tight. no movement and keep it center.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2008, 05:57:25 AM »
I have a draw with new and used sks scopemounts that are crap.  I ended up with a mosin style scopemount in the end its rock solid.

Why waste time with an sks for deer hunting?  I would grab a $69 mosin 91/30 and get the barnaul 203gr sp bullets.  You'll never have to follow a blood line or look for a wounded deer again it will be right were you poked it. Its plenty of gun for any north american critter.  For an $80 investment with ammo will be surprised at what it can do.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2008, 03:56:39 PM »
they are not 69 bucks in my area and noone wants to order them. if you find one normal price here is 100-150 bucks. ammo also hard to find. the sks easy to find cheap to shoot find ammo everywhere.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2008, 02:16:21 PM »
well i loaned the sks out to a guy for westvirginia rifle season. he said his deer was a one shot kill and he just dropped in the tracks. i guess it was the shooter not the rifle. im gonna have to practice practice practice now.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2008, 03:56:13 AM »
lil_hunter I turn fifty first of next year,I've been shooting since age six and hunting since I was ten and reloading for the past twenty five.   When your born and live poor through most of you teenage life hunting become a necessity more than a sport if you plan on eating.  I learned early mostly because of limited ammo to make ever shot count,shot placement in the vital area of your particular game is always key,along with  getting as close to your intended target as possible,very rarely have I ever shot any game animal over 100 yds,most are well under that. In some areas of the country that may not be possible but you can use camouflage,stalking and ambush techniques to narrow the distance.

As far as which particular firearm works best,you can be just as over powered as you can be underpowered and bullet selection  for your intended game is very important,you want you bullet to impart its energy and expand readily in your intended game to cause shock and internal damage to cause quick death.  So high velocity and tough bullet construction isn't always preferred especially on deer size game.  The Russian ammo most commonly used in the SKS isn't normally your bet choice,it has and will kill deer,the 123 to 150 gr bullets are constructed of a steel casing,with a thin copper coating and a lead core.  Expansion isn't always a given especially if you don't hit bone and out past 100 yds they all pretty much act like FMJ's. 

For my deer hunting ammo I reload using mostly Hornady 123 gr SP and Prvi Paritizan 150 gr. SP they both expand readily at SKS MV.  http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8507&dir=18|830|852  makes some good hunting ammo for the SKS I have seen this rd drop a deer dead it in tracks at 80 yds. and its reloadable and allot cheaper than American made stuff.

As far as a scope I have one on one of my SKS rifles and the other I use the iron sights,the Yugo has the Choate drill and tap mount on the receiver with a 3 x 9 x 40  I shoot 1 1/2" groups with this combo,if you don't want to drill your rifle you can replace the rear sight with a http://161.58.206.244/store/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=scoutscopes&Category_Code=skscope and use either a Red Dot or long eye relief scope for the SKS  I feel a 3 MOA Red Dot works fine.  On my Chinese SKS I just replaced the front sight pin with a techsight pin,its about 1/2 the diameter of the original pin and will give you a finer aiming point $7 shipped.  I wouldn't think twice about using my SKS rifle to hunt deer.  It will kill them just as dead as any other rifle I own.


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Re: sks question.
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2008, 04:28:52 PM »
I agree with the closer the better but i havent been able to take a single deer less than 50 yards normally 75-150 yards. i am fully intending to spend some money on ammo and learn this rifle as well as i know my blackpowder rifle. which will take some doing. but it is all for good measure to make a better shot on a deer next time.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2008, 05:01:29 PM »
I have had no issues with an SKS with large midwestern white tail out to 150 yards.  Take the scope mount and pitch it in the trash and put the scope on the shelf for another rifle as there is NOT a good scope mount made for the SKS and they shoot great with iron sights anyway.  The SKS is a very low recoiling rifle, so practice double taps when shooting and utilize this new skill if necessary in the field.  Quick double tap usually produces a first shot in the vitals and the 2nd shot in or near the spine for me at 100 yards. 

Quite honestly though, one well placed shot from an SKS is plenty to kill a deer quickly.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2008, 05:19:33 PM »
When I lived in North Carolina I used to hunt a lot in South Carolina (can kill legally 6 deer) and regularly killed deer with my sks. Never lost one, and furthest shot was maybe 75 to 80 yards. I shot a doe facing me at about 60 yards--the bullet went through length ways, and the guts when I dressed her looked like they went through a blender. I use PMC .130 grain soft points. I have only seen them once at a gun show and bought 200 rounds, so I don't know if they are still available. I still have a lot of it left and will probably not need to buy any more hunting ammo for the sks in my life time.  The 7.62/39 ammo is just a little faster than a 30-30, and quit a bit flatter shooting than a 30-30. But I would still only use it out to about 150 yards max, and usually won't take a shot that far with the sks or my marlin 30-30. Most of the places I hunt you won't see a deer that far away anyway.

 I can say that a 30-30 will shoot right threw a deer at 175 yards hitting ribs going in and going out. (150 grain bullet) Seen it--the sks should do the same.

So you probably just need to practice more and get over the shakes, you and your sks will do just fine.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2008, 05:38:54 PM »
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Take the scope mount and pitch it in the trash and put the scope on the shelf for another rifle as there is NOT a good scope mount made for the SKS and they shoot great with iron sights anyway.

I guess you never heard of a Choate side base drill and tap mount or a Russian Molot rail,as far as the iron sight go,they do shoot just fine if you can focus good enough between the front and rear sight.  No all of us have that luxury of great eyesight.



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Re: sks question.
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2008, 10:45:53 PM »
WOW! that's a high scope mount. What is that 6" above the bore?


I keep telling you guys TECH SIGHTS

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2008, 02:23:49 AM »
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Take the scope mount and pitch it in the trash and put the scope on the shelf for another rifle as there is NOT a good scope mount made for the SKS and they shoot great with iron sights anyway.

I guess you never heard of a Choate side base drill and tap mount or a Russian Molot rail,as far as the iron sight go,they do shoot just fine if you can focus good enough between the front and rear sight.  No all of us have that luxury of great eyesight.





Hey, I have that same mount.  Sorry, didn't work for me.....  If it works for you, great....

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2008, 02:24:58 AM »
I guess looks can be deceiving it actually only 3 1/2" from center of cross hairs to center of bore,I like the setup because when I shoulder the rifle the eye piece is right there no head movement needed.  Just point and shoot.
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Re: sks question.
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2008, 05:40:24 AM »
i believe my shakes problem is going away the other day i took a spike with blackpowder around 130 yards offhand hit dead through the shoulder deer dropped on the spot not another step was taken. the problem with the sks i think was the fact i didnt trust it so much to begin with.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #49 on: December 25, 2008, 05:12:52 AM »
they are not 69 bucks in my area and noone wants to order them. if you find one normal price here is 100-150 bucks. ammo also hard to find. the sks easy to find cheap to shoot find ammo everywhere.

This is what drove me to get my c&r ffl03.  The gun shops would laugh at me and wanted nothing to do with ordering or selling C&R guns.  I guess its just there ignorance or they had problems with the conditions of the C&R guns with the buyers.  Either way there losing $$$. One of my local shops would take in C&R guns when buying whole collections and just dump them for what ever he paid for them.  That was great for me but he finally caught on to another source for income.  He now buys and sells C&R guns for a profit.  No more great buys there.  Another local shop has C&R's priced very high.  So my only source for c&r's at a decent price was to get my c&r ffl03.  If your going to collect its the only way to save many $$$.  We get discounts on C&R guns,  wholesale prices on accessories, gun parts and ammo at certain places on the net its a win / win for the both of us.

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« Reply #50 on: December 25, 2008, 05:19:23 AM »
Has anyone tried the russian made barnaul fmj or sp ammo yet?  I have read its very accurate ammo.  I been wanting to get into sp ammo for my 223 and my 7,62x39 too.

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« Reply #51 on: December 25, 2008, 10:29:32 AM »
Has anyone tried the russian made barnaul fmj or sp ammo yet?  I have read its very accurate ammo.  I been wanting to get into sp ammo for my 223 and my 7,62x39 too.
Good ammo, a step up from wolf (believe I heard it's made in the same factory as wolf not sure
). For the same price though try PRIVI PARTISAN it's serbian ammo. And reloadable. I've tried the 62 gr hp 223 and 150 gr sp 7.62X39. Very clean stuff. You are looking for the newly manufactured commercial blue box, not the old  corosive yugo stuff.
This page may help you out on 223 ammo reviews.
http://www.aaconsult.com/ammoreview/html/_223_reviews.html
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Re: sks question.
« Reply #52 on: December 25, 2008, 10:49:37 AM »
Has anyone tried the russian made barnaul fmj or sp ammo yet?  I have read its very accurate ammo.  I been wanting to get into sp ammo for my 223 and my 7,62x39 too.

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,157533.0.html

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« Reply #53 on: December 25, 2008, 11:37:19 AM »
Thanks krochus, love the Al Bundy avatar by the way.
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« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2008, 12:12:46 PM »
i would love to get my c&r license but seeing as i am only 18 i cant get that yet. i have been trying to talk the parents into getting theirs but no luck so far. i am planning to go to a gun shop i know that is selling the mosins for 79 bucks when i get time and extra money.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2008, 01:45:50 PM »
That Mosin shoots a good solid round. Maybe you can get one and get everything set up by next season. That will give you plenty of time to find ammo and get a scope set up.
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« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2008, 02:50:44 PM »
When they were developing the sks they made the sks41 and it was in the 7,62x54r caliber.  It was never manufactured too bad it would of been a great gun. I have heard rumors of the saiga being offered soon in 7,62x54r, maybe by the summer.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2009, 02:40:38 PM »
Lil-Hunter, I hate to sound like a nut or a fear-monger but if you sell that SKS you'll live to regret it I'm sure. With the current administration you may never have the oportunity to buy another semi-auto at any cost and most certainly not for what you paid for your SKS. I am not going to sit here and tell you the SKS or the 7.62x39 cartride is something it is not. It is not a tack-driver; it was never meant to be. It is also not a large'dangerous game cartridge, nor was it built to hunt such animals. It is a fine deer and hog cartridge within reasonable range. Never let anyone tell you it isn't very powerful. I have seen the 58 thousand names on the wall in D.C. A man is the most dangerous game of all, especially if he too is armed. The 125 HP's are good and the 154's even better. I have'nt hunted game with my SKS in some time but remember it seemed to drop game just fine in 100 yards even with the mil-spec HP's.  Good Luck

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2009, 05:29:46 PM »
after i saw my buddies deer he took with my sks and milspec hp bullets id never sell this rifle now. just need alot of practice with it.

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Re: sks question.
« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2009, 04:11:53 AM »
I think you only made one mistake, you did not shoot again, and again, and again, until the deer was DEAD.  In Ohio we have to use slug guns, and that's what we do to make sure that the meat goes from hoof-to-table. 

Good luck, and keep pulling that trigger till your quarry is down! 

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