Well, it finally happened. I'm currently living in Savannah, away from home where my gun safe is. Came home yesterday for lunch and found my door had been kicked in. Kimber 1911 (45 ACP), Ruger #1 (45-70), Trapper (45 Colt) and a muzzle loader now have a new home. Can't get the serial #'s until this weekend. Buddy has them and he's sitting in a tree in Alabama. Will post when I get them.