Author Topic: Unknown Gun  (Read 1612 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline HuntingGuy

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 641
  • Gender: Male
Unknown Gun
« on: August 15, 2003, 04:11:18 PM »
Hi-

Just recieved a nice gun from my grandfather. He recieved the gun many years ago from someone. Can anyone give me an estimated price range on this?

It looks to have a custom high rise montecarlo cocobolo stock with grip cap and end cap with a white laminate between, and the bolt has been jewled.

I have uploaded some pictures of it. Here is the URL which contains the pictures:

http://www.geocities.com/gotosites4u/mauser.html

Any help would be greatly appretiated.

Thank you, Jason
HuntingGuy
Hunting in Minnesota Moderator

"You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy"

Offline PaulS

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1120
Unknown Gun
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2003, 04:20:16 PM »
HuntingGuy,
If the barrel has been replaced it should have the gunsmith's name on it somewhere.
If the action was worked over it should also have a name or mark on it from the gunsmith.
I don't know if stock makers identify their custome stocks but you might look for some kind of ID with the action removed.
Pictures may be worth a thousand words but a little more info would be nice too.

BTW - It is a superb looking rifle.

PaulS
PaulS

Hodgdon, Lyman, Speer, Sierra, Hornady = reliable resources
so and so's pages on the internet = not reliable resources
Alway check loads you find on the internet against manuals.
NEVER exceed maximum listed loads.

Offline HuntingGuy

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 641
  • Gender: Male
Unknown Gun
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2003, 04:28:53 PM »
Here is what the action reads:

waffenfabrik mauser-oberndorf
modelo 1909.


A little further up it reads: Jlaig (not sure of spelling) Ace
6.5 x 55


Jason
HuntingGuy
Hunting in Minnesota Moderator

"You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy"

Offline Graybeard

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (69)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26946
  • Gender: Male
Unknown Gun
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2003, 05:28:05 PM »
No doubt a military mauser of some sort. Ask the guys on the Military Surplus Rifle Forum. They'll most likely know what the basic rifle was/is.

GB


Bill aka the Graybeard
President, Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises
256-435-1125

I am not a lawyer and do not give legal advice.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life anyone who believes in Him will have everlasting life!

Offline redial

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 260
Unknown Gun
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2003, 08:12:17 PM »
Sounds like it may have started life as an Argentine Mauser (Modelo 1909) but it appears to have undergone a few changes! I don't associate the caliber - 6.5 x 55 with the Argentine, though. IIRC, those were 7.65 or 7.63 originally.

Nice looking rig ya got there!

Redial

Offline John Traveler

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1359
Unknown Gun
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2003, 06:03:07 PM »
Your rifle description sounds like a standard Model 1909 Argentine Mauser 98 action fitted with a Flaig's barrel in 6.5 x 55mm Swedish Mauser caliber.  

Flaig was a mail-order rebarreling/gunsmithing service in Pennsyvania in the 1960's and '70's.  You can see their ads in The American Rifleman magazine of the period.

There is certainly nothing wrong with a Flaig-barreled rifle.  They were not known as a custom rifle house, but rather appealed to the bread-and-butter deer hunter rather than your  typical custom rifle collector.  The Flaig Ace was a popular sporting Mauser based on (you guessed it) surplus military actions.

By the way, that IS a very nice rifle you have, but the stock sure looks like walnut, and not coco bolo wood!

HTH
John
John Traveler

Offline gunnut69

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5005
Unknown Gun
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2003, 08:09:40 AM »
Just a bit more info--  The bottom metal (trigger guard and floorplate assembly) appear to be from a M70 Winchester, not unusual at the time.  The period is almost certainly from the '70s as I have one I built that is exactly the same style,, difference action but the stock style is very similar.  The wood appears to be a streaked piece of english walnut.  Mine is a 300 WinMag and these stock while the style has gone out of favor, a more comfortable to fire than some of the 'clasics' we see today, especially with a heavy kicker..  Flaigs was a pretty well respected shop and did quite a business.  In 6.5x55 there should be nearly no recoil and it's a great deer, bear rifle.  The caliber is used heavily in europe for nearly all game including what we call moose.  Great rifle in a clasic caliber..
gunnut69--
The 2nd amendment to the constitution of the United States of America-
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Offline hillbill

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3285
custom rifle
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2003, 03:09:07 PM »
hey HG! lots of guys anwered your post but no one posted a value as you had asked. custom rifles are hard to determine value as a rule. that rifle is easily worth 500 to 1000$, but you must find someone who is looking for a 6.5 to start with and that style of rifle for a second thing. what you have is prob the ultimate deer rifle and i wouldnt part with it for less than 500 at least!

Offline HuntingGuy

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 641
  • Gender: Male
Unknown Gun
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2003, 03:10:13 PM »
Bill- Thanks! Anything else you can tell me?
HuntingGuy
Hunting in Minnesota Moderator

"You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy"