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GM Crops Climb to Nearly One-Tenth of Global Crop Production
« on: December 07, 2008, 05:51:28 AM »

   

GM Crops Climb to Nearly One-Tenth of Global Crop Production

Mike Adams
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Friday, Dec 05, 2008

Genetically Modified crops have risen to the level of nine percent of world crops, warned the Worldwatch Institute today (www.WorldWatch.org).

Tensions are rising over the GM foods issue as consumers become increasingly educated about the sharp increases in infertility resulting from the consumption of GM foods.

A popular book, Genetic Roulette by Jeffrey Smith, is also raising literacy about genetically modified foods and the threats they pose to sustainable life on our planet.

It's more than just a health threat, of course: GM foods also pose a threat to the environment, polluting the fertile soils of the world with unnatural genetic material that may have unknown long-term consequences. Cross-pollination with non-GM crops, monoculture practices and the liberal use of chemical pesticides alongside GM crops are just a few of the serious threats to sustainable life on Earth posed by food scientists playing God with seeds.

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Activists are increasingly suggesting that the infertility side effects of GM foods are not coincidental and are, instead, part of a genocidal plan by powerful elitists who want the human population to shrink by 80 percent and are willing to destroy human fertility in order to accomplish it. "Let 'em eat their way to population control!"

Although I don't have any solid evidence to prove such a sinister plan actually exists, I'm greatly concerned about GM crops anyway. Despite the population control conspiracy agenda, GM crops are dangerous even if they're just a big, arrogant mistake by corporate-funded scientists.

These foods are bad for you. They're dangerous for human consumption and they could lead to a runaway agricultural blight that causes mass global starvation. Never play God with Mother Nature unless you're begging to be made extinct
 
 

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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2008, 01:49:57 PM »
What a pile of camel dung!
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2008, 02:03:54 PM »
They said everyone would die of starvation when the iron plow was introduced too. They poisoned the soil.

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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2008, 02:20:51 PM »
I won't claim to know the cause, but infertility is increasing at a rapid pace.  In my opinion it is very possible that the foods we eat may play a factor in this.  I know that obesity and the age of which a woman "matures" has been linked to growth hormones injected into our meats.  The global elite are going to do something to decrease the population, and making couples infertile is a good way to do that.  Do you guys remember the "one less" commercials?  The vaccine that was created to prevent cervical cancer was "mandated" for fourteen year old girls in some states has now been discovered to cause infertility.  If you asked me a couple of years ago if I thought it was possible for our leaders to do something like intentionally making foods that caused infertility and I would have said you were crazy.  Now I think that almost anything is possible and believe nothing.

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2008, 02:29:20 PM »
I won't claim to know the cause, but infertility is increasing at a rapid pace.  In my opinion it is very possible that the foods we eat may play a factor in this.  I know that obesity and the age of which a woman "matures" has been linked to growth hormones injected into our meats.  The global elite are going to do something to decrease the population, and making couples infertile is a good way to do that.  Do you guys remember the "one less" commercials?  The vaccine that was created to prevent cervical cancer was "mandated" for fourteen year old girls in some states has now been discovered to cause infertility.  If you asked me a couple of years ago if I thought it was possible for our leaders to do something like intentionally making foods that caused infertility and I would have said you were crazy.  Now I think that almost anything is possible and believe nothing.

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Boy Heather you may have just opened a can of worms here in this house. Could you please give me some kind on link to the The vaccine that was created to prevent cervical cancer was "mandated" for fourteen year old girls in some states has now been discovered to cause infertility. My wife and I have been talking about this for some time. She wants our daughter to have this shot and I say if she just does not have sex it will be as good. Dale
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2008, 02:40:10 PM »
I won't claim to know the cause, but infertility is increasing at a rapid pace.  In my opinion it is very possible that the foods we eat may play a factor in this.  I know that obesity and the age of which a woman "matures" has been linked to growth hormones injected into our meats.  The global elite are going to do something to decrease the population, and making couples infertile is a good way to do that.  Do you guys remember the "one less" commercials?  The vaccine that was created to prevent cervical cancer was "mandated" for fourteen year old girls in some states has now been discovered to cause infertility.  If you asked me a couple of years ago if I thought it was possible for our leaders to do something like intentionally making foods that caused infertility and I would have said you were crazy.  Now I think that almost anything is possible and believe nothing.

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Boy Heather you may have just opened a can of worms here in this house. Could you please give me some kind on link to the The vaccine that was created to prevent cervical cancer was "mandated" for fourteen year old girls in some states has now been discovered to cause infertility. My wife and I have been talking about this for some time. She wants our daughter to have this shot and I say if she just does not have sex it will be as good. Dale

We watched the T.V. special on it.  I don't remember which station it was on.  Here are a few links, didn't take the time to check the validity of the sites.  Dale please please do the research and do NOT give this to your daughter.

http://www.vaclib.org/news/2006/gardasil.htm#effects

http://www.naturalnews.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK97CHQZhq0 (Guardasil Hoax exposed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_13plsrydPY (CNN warning)

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2008, 02:47:43 PM »
I will read through the links you have provided. I have not as of yet but I will. Thank you Heather. Dale
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2008, 03:08:47 PM »
I can fully understand hormones injected in meat animals causing infertility. That's why we eat deer meat right. But plants that have been altered causing it, now comon. I think the naysayers stirring this pot have picked infertility for a reason, it gets peoples attention. There's about as much science to this as "global warming" Altered plants may cause some problems in the future, but they will all cause seperate problems, not just every one of them contributing to a falling fertility rate, that's balderdash.

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2008, 05:12:04 PM »
From the research that I have done on the subject over the last year or two all I have really found is that the GM plants are changed more so that they will not produce viable seeds thus you have to come back each year.

As to problems related to consumption of GM plants there are claims of increased numbers of cancer related problems but I do not know enough about the testing procedure's to say one way or another.

The vaccine issues Heather mentioned are real and have been discused in the media and either Discovery or History Channel did a special on it.

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 05:41:55 PM »
Matt  when scientists add a gene to a crop plant it is to give it some sort of agronomic trait.  Primarily imparting protection from insects.  Cotton was the first major crop to have the bt gene implanted to keep bowl worms and budworms from destroying the crop.  Thus, use of insecticides on cotton has been darmatically reduced.   Cotton not a food issue.  Soybeans which we do consume have had a gene inserted to make them resistant to Roundup herbicide.  Roundup is a very safe chemical and has led to reduction of  herbicides use by tons.  Corn has has had the bt gene added to protect it from several serious insect pests and this too reduces insecticide use by millions of pounds.  The bt gene makes the corn plant produce a protein that insects cannot digest and eventually kills the worm.  These pests mostly feed on the plant and not the grain of the corn and that is where the bt protein does its job, not in the grain that people eat.  All in all reducing the uses of toxic insecticides and herbicide is a wonderful trade for gm crops at the worst.  So much of the programs presented on cable tv channels are so severly slanted, one sided and deceptively designed to induce panic and sway public opinion that they have to be called what they are-junk science.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2008, 05:53:09 PM »
Dale you are rather misinformed on the subject and I suggest you do more reading. I do agree however that the vaccine is not the right way to go. But the cancer is not necessarily linked to having sex and it is entirely possible to get that cancer whether a woman does or does not have sex. The bacterium or whatever it is that causes it naturally occurs in women's bodies and does not need or depend on sexual activity to cause the cancer.

My wife and one of her aunts both had it and survived it. My wife's mom sister to the aunt had cancer but it was ovarian instead of cervical.

Having a vaccine that was safe and would prevent it would be very good but I do not think they have it yet. Texas I believe was one state that mandated it for girls. I'm not sure but think maybe at least one more might have also. It created quite the stir in TX and many parents refused to comply. Personally I think the vaccine is a bad idea but do not be fooled that not having sex plays any role in whether a woman does or does not develop the cancer.


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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 06:08:39 PM »
Matt  when scientists add a gene to a crop plant it is to give it some sort of agronomic trait.  Primarily imparting protection from insects.  Cotton was the first major crop to have the bt gene implanted to keep bowl worms and budworms from destroying the crop.  Thus, use of insecticides on cotton has been darmatically reduced.   Cotton not a food issue.  Soybeans which we do consume have had a gene inserted to make them resistant to Roundup herbicide.  Roundup is a very safe chemical and has led to reduction of  herbicides use by tons.  Corn has has had the bt gene added to protect it from several serious insect pests and this too reduces insecticide use by millions of pounds.  The bt gene makes the corn plant produce a protein that insects cannot digest and eventually kills the worm.  These pests mostly feed on the plant and not the grain of the corn and that is where the bt protein does its job, not in the grain that people eat.  All in all reducing the uses of toxic insecticides and herbicide is a wonderful trade for gm crops at the worst.  So much of the programs presented on cable tv channels are so severly slanted, one sided and deceptively designed to induce panic and sway public opinion that they have to be called what they are-junk science.

I think you are making some assumptions that you shouldn't be. I understand the benefit of GM plants but at the same time... can you save the seeds of these crops and replant them the next season or do you have to buy fresh seeds each year?

The TV special I was talking about was not on GM plants nor did it have anything to do with plants and yes I know they are all slanted far left but I am able to view it for what it is and see the real information that they do provide even if in limited amounts.

I never take a stance on an issue without researching it and my stance on the GM plants is if you don't mind buying seeds each year for the trade off of less chemicals in the ground and less work then so be it because if I like it I am going to eat it no matter...

And on the vaccine issue DO NOT MAKE YOUR KIDS TAKE THIS !!! there is way to much actual medical documentation to prove that you are more often then not going to be sterile afterwards.

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2008, 02:37:21 AM »
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Not being able to plant the seeds from your crop started with hybridization which has been the practice for well over 100 years now. If you plant seeds produced by a hybrid there is no way of knowing what the offspring will be like. To know what you will be getting when you save seeds you need to plant true strains ,known in seed catalogs as heirlooms.

Genetically modified plants have actually had their genes fooled with in a lab mixing genes from life forms that could never happen by interbreeding programs. One such that I know of is taking a gene from a spider and grafting it into a goat in hopes of making a new fiber from goats milk, stuff that could never happen except in high tech labs.

It sounds pretty scary, they have the potential to create some monster that would destroy the world, just a new horrible virus would have the potential to wipe us out, but the world is so screwed up with so many potential biological hazards created when exotic animals are introduced  that genetic modification may be the best hope for  mankind. That is as long as it is done by well intentioned people. The whole field is also somewhat like developing the atom bomb too. It is almost inevitable that it will be used for evil.




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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2008, 03:46:56 AM »
Regarding the seeds of gm crops, in the case of corn as Bilmac stated,  is grown from hybrid seed and cannot be saved for the agronomic reason that its seed is no longer a true hybrid.  In the case of soybeans and cotton, these crops are self-pollinated and reproduce genetically exact copies of themselves and their seeds are completely viable.   Companies that invented these crops recover their billions of investment by collecting a use fee from seed purchasers.  That agreement allows only for one crop to be grown for each seed purchase.  GM crops have to go through a licensing program similar to pesticides and and pharmaceutical drugs, taking around a dozen years or more.  Lots and lots of scientific testing with complete oversight from governmental agencies.  It is extremely unlikely that a few years after such an extensive testing program a completely here-to-fore unknown effect would pop up.  We face so many imediate and real threats that scientific technology should not be one of them.
 
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 11:05:53 AM »
Genetically modified plants have actually had their genes fooled with in a lab mixing genes from life forms that could never happen by interbreeding programs. One such that I know of is taking a gene from a spider and grafting it into a goat in hopes of making a new fiber from goats milk, stuff that could never happen except in high tech labs.

I have seen something along these lines and I think it was just the other day, I really don't have a problem with it seems if it could be done the possibilities are huge...

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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2008, 11:11:34 AM »
We face so many imediate and real threats that scientific technology should not be one of them.
 

There is a point that we definitely agree on....


I will go back and look over the information that I have on the GM but I could have sworn that part of it was that the seeds are not viable but maybe I am mistaken.

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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2008, 12:45:38 PM »
I don't trust Monsanto. Multinational corps rarely have the peoples best interest in mind.

www.dostje.org/Aguas/Novice/21avg02.htm

Monsanto seeking to expand monopolies from seed to water

Since 1996, Monsanto has bought up a large portion of the world's seed industry. According to a report in The Hindu newspaper by Dr Vandana Shiva, director of the Research Foundation for Science, Technology and Ecology, New Delhi, Monsanto is now poised to buy up the water supplies of India and Mexico.

Lest we miss the scary implications of these acquisitions, Robert Fraley of Monsanto has kindly spelled it out for us: "What you are seeing is not just a consolidation of seed companies, it's really a consolidation of the entire food chain." Since water is as central to food production as seed is, and without water life is not possible, Monsanto is now trying to establish its control over water. During 1999, Monsanto plans to launch a new water business, starting with India and Mexico since both these countries are facing water shortages.

Monsanto is seeing a new business opportunity because of the emerging water crisis and the funding available to make this vital resource available to people. As it states in its strategy paper, "First, we believe that discontinuities (either major policy changes or major trendline breaks in resource quality or quantity) are likely, particularly in the area of water and we will be well-positioned via these businesses to profit even more significantly when these discontinuities occur."

In other words, an ecological crisis such as drought or pollution becomes a desirable business opportunity.

According to some analysts, multinational companies are past masters at extracting profit out of human tragedy. Last year, Dr Shiva reported on the mysterious and massive contamination of India's indigenous mustard oil stock which killed 41 people and sickened 2300 others. Mustard oil is traditionally processed in India by families and communities and forms the basis of many local economies. After the contamination was found, sales of all mustard oil, except the industry-packaged type, were banned.

Coincidentally, the contamination occurred at a time when Monsanto had been trying unsuccessfully to unload large amounts of its GM soy on a reluctant Europe. India too had resisted the Frankenfood soy, in part perhaps to protect its own mustard oil industry and in part because of the Indian public's opposition to GM. But after the mustard oil ban, the Indian government had to cave in to Monsanto's demands and accept its GM soy as a source for cooking oil.

The (for Monsanto) felicitous timing of the mustard oil tragedy was not lost on Dr Shiva. In investigating such an event, she said, you have to ask who would profit from it. She published an article which suggested that a conspiracy to adulterate India's mustard oil had been organised on a vast scale. She was not alone in her conclusion. India's health minister made the same claim, and industry groups also said that they perceived "the invisible hands of multinationals" behind the affair.

It may be that their suspicions are never proven one way or the other. It may also be that Monsanto, in its plans to own India's and Mexico's water supplies, has nothing but the bests interests of the people at heart.

But when a large and powerful company with assets greater than many nation states stands to benefit from ecological or public health catastrophes, the people need to be vigilant.

Dr Shiva is in no doubt about the danger posed by Monsanto's move: "Water is ... basic for life and survival and the right to it is the right to life. Privatization and commodification of water are a threat to the right to life.

"Water is a commons and must be managed as a commons. It cannot be controlled and sold by a life sciences corporation that peddles in death."

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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2008, 01:02:44 PM »
Dale you are rather misinformed on the subject and I suggest you do more reading. I do agree however that the vaccine is not the right way to go. But the cancer is not necessarily linked to having sex and it is entirely possible to get that cancer whether a woman does or does not have sex. The bacterium or whatever it is that causes it naturally occurs in women's bodies and does not need or depend on sexual activity to cause the cancer.

My wife and one of her aunts both had it and survived it. My wife's mom sister to the aunt had cancer but it was ovarian instead of cervical.

Having a vaccine that was safe and would prevent it would be very good but I do not think they have it yet. Texas I believe was one state that mandated it for girls. I'm not sure but think maybe at least one more might have also. It created quite the stir in TX and many parents refused to comply. Personally I think the vaccine is a bad idea but do not be fooled that not having sex plays any role in whether a woman does or does not develop the cancer.
GB I may have mis-spoke and did not clearly explain what I meant. From what I understand a young woman that has sex has a big increased chance of getting Cancer. Now there are young women that do not and have not had sex that still get the Cancer. I would rather my daughter not get the shot and stay away from sex. Dale
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2008, 04:02:01 AM »
Paranoia reigns!  Neutral news sources, if any one can be, state the Indian mustard oil contaminated was produced in cottage industry operations.  It's not much of a leap to imagine how that could happen in India.
The contaminants were reported as either other toxic seeds or a virus, again not much of a stretch.   Again could one imagine Indian politicians with vested interests of their own in a nation with ancient cultural traditions, defending the status quo?  None of us here are ever going to have sufficient reliable information to really know what the truth is.  And no, before you ask I don't now or have ever had a connection to Monsanto.   
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2008, 01:53:27 PM »
O.K., I feel a little better about Monsanto after reading this...

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2000/C/200002394.html



[excerpt} Monsanto has been working since the mid-1990s to enhance the carotenoid levels of oilseed crops with a focus on the accumulation of beta carotene in the seed of canola (also known as oilseed rape). As a result, researchers have been able to achieve concentrations of beta carotene in oil from crushed canola seed greater than currently available in any other oil or vegetable.

In March 1999, Monsanto announced it would share at no cost this gene transfer technology, and simultaneously joined into a public and private sector partnership with USAID and the Global Vitamin A Alliance. This current mustard project is part of fulfilling the earlier commitment. TERI’s scientists, led by Senior Fellow and Dean of Bioresources and Biotechnology Dr. Vibha Dawan, have extensive experience in breeding improved varieties of mustard commonly cultivated in India. The Institute’s researchers will work directly with Monsanto scientists to develop high beta-carotene mustard.

In April 2000, Monsanto also produced a draft sequence of the rice genome, the first crop genome to be described in significant technical detail. In order to facilitate and encourage basic research to improve rice and other crops, the data is available at no charge to the International Rice Genome Sequencing Project (IRGSP), a ten-member consortium of rice genome sequencing projects around the world, and is currently accessible to registered researchers through the www.rice-research.org web site.