Author Topic: Hot Glue practice bullets + Pics (Read 6006 times)

stimpylu32 · « **on:** December 07, 2008, 10:41:16 AM »

Did up a few and took some pics to show just how easy it is .

Only things you need are a bullet mold and a hot glue gun .

Let the glue come up to temp per instructions and then just fll the mold .

On larger cal bullets you may want to fill the mold about 2/3 full with the sprue plate swung to the side , then finish filling through the sprue .

After you have the mold filled allow the glue to cure for a few min , I found that it works well to do 2 diffrent ones , filling one as the other cures but you don't have to .

Once you have it cured , swing the sprue plate out just as you would for lead casting . don't get in too big of a hurry or it will squish the bottom of the bullet .

The finished bullet .

Hand seat the glue bullet in a sized only case ( no belling neeed ) with only a primer -- NO POWDER --

Once the glue got up to temp it only took about 10 min to do up these 45LC for the first time .

NOTE -- some hot glues cure harder than others so depending on the glue is to how many times you can shoot before they come apart .

stimpy

woodchukhntr · « **Reply #1 on:** December 07, 2008, 11:58:39 AM »

Cool idea! Do you have any problems with the equivalent of "leading" in the barrel after you shoot? Have you tried casting any lead bullets after you used the mold for the hot glue bullets?

GameHauler · « **Reply #2 on:** December 07, 2008, 12:22:57 PM »

Thanks Stimpy for the step by step.
I may just have to buy a 7MM mold

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #3 on:** December 07, 2008, 04:03:13 PM »

Thanks Stimpy, Do you think these would clear the barrel of my handie? Maybe with shotgun primers. Gotta find my glue gun and try some in my .357s.

dakotashooter2 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 08, 2008, 11:43:39 AM »

You'll want to dedicate a few cases and drill out the primer holes a bit to prevent primer setback. I've been able to easily keep them (.41 mag) in a 3x3 post it note at about 20 feet and penetrate about 4 thicknesses of cardboard with mag primers. You also want to seat the bullets BEFORE priming them or you will have a hard time seating the bullets (pressure buildup).

Those of us who have experimented with them affectionatly refer to them as Gluelits.

GameHauler · « **Reply #5 on:** December 08, 2008, 12:41:17 PM »

Dakota,
I am just wondering why the primers would set back?
I would think the internal pressure would be allot lower
than a normal round.
I could see drilling it out to get a faster build up of pressure
in the case (FASTER GLUELITS)

Mike

bluebayou · « **Reply #6 on:** December 08, 2008, 03:45:46 PM »

I love it.

The ingenuity of the American redneck never ceases to amaze me.

Stimpy, do you get "leading" like woodchuckhnter asks? This a cool idea, might be handy for a nuisance dog too.

burntmuch · « **Reply #7 on:** December 08, 2008, 03:57:02 PM »

Now thats a cool idea.

buck460XVR · « **Reply #8 on:** December 09, 2008, 12:08:56 PM »

Quote from: GameHauler on December 08, 2008, 12:41:17 PM

Dakota,
I am just wondering why the primers would set back?
I would think the internal pressure would be allot lower
than a normal round.
I could see drilling it out to get a faster build up of pressure
in the case (FASTER GLUELITS)
Mike

don't all primers set back on ignition and then are pushed back into the pocket when the powder ignites and forces the case backwards? Or was I told wrong.

is a cool idea tho....I gotta try it.

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2008, 02:36:33 PM »

Sorry it took so long to reply , 10 & 12 hour days are killing me .

So far I have not experianced any build up from shooting these little things and I don't push them fast enough to melt them either using only a primer .

Also have not had any problems switching back over to lead in the molds as any glue that may be in the nooks & cranny's is melted away with the first pour , I always toss the first 4 or 5 bullets cast back into the pot because they don't quite fill right till the mold gets heated up anyhow .

stimpy

jhalcott · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2008, 02:39:22 PM »

I used the hard plastic ones for the 44 that Speer made(makes). Thy are NOT toys! I shot a cat that used my porch as a toilet once to often. The cat died with the "bullet" in it. distance was only about 12-15 feet. The cat did not make it 30 feet.

bilmac · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2008, 04:26:38 PM »

Might be a little embarrasing if a cat made it home with one of your bullets in it.

Game hauler The same applies when you shoot wax bullets with primers. What I think happens is that gas pressure builds up in the primer pocket which pops the primer out. By making the flash hole larger, the gas can't build up so much pressure..

bluebayou · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2008, 07:39:02 PM »

You know, my first thought was that in the movie, "3 Days of the Condor" the Robert Redford character mentions a Dick Tracy comic strip and a guy using ice bullets so that there isn't any ballistics to match.

Just a weird mental ricochet late at night......

AtlLaw · « **Reply #13 on:** December 10, 2008, 06:55:56 AM »

Great Stimpy! I have visions of shooting all kinds a stuff in my basement now!

Can we make this a sticky?

GameHauler · « **Reply #14 on:** December 10, 2008, 12:55:13 PM »

:-[OH Richard,
I am so sorry for starting the thread about practice bullets

I pray for your wife when your friends come over to visit.
Hopefully the Kegerator will be empty

Just thinking about how much damage could be done to a Basement
with their Autos and the thousands of "Gluelets layed out on the bench

Better plan on not getting that new Tat till you pay for new appliances

Mike

AtlLaw · « **Reply #15 on:** December 10, 2008, 02:36:46 PM »

Quote from: GameHauler on December 10, 2008, 12:55:13 PM

I am so sorry for starting the thread about practice bullets
I pray for your wife when your friends come over to visit.

Thanks for bringing me back to reality GH...

Ever since this got posted I've been wild eyed, tongue hanging out, slobber running out of the corner of my mouth adding up the different caliber moulds I'd need. What started out as revolver practice bullets graduated to "why can't I do it with rifle bullets?"

I could practice mounting, target acquisition and trigger pull on my hunting guns and actually launch projectiles hundreds of times in the comfort of my own home!

For pennies!

In close proximity to the keg!

Wait! stop! slow down there Dickie...

Okay, I'm better now... Uh, how much do Lee moulds cost nowadays?

Dand · « **Reply #16 on:** December 10, 2008, 07:43:51 PM »

Great idea Stimp. And thanks for the advise, warning on pest control. Right away I thought of that possibility. I have some Speer plastic bullets but didn't like the mess they made - lots of soot. But I'd love some practice for my 41s, even have a mould to use. I'm a slobbering like AtLaw now!

GameHauler · « **Reply #17 on:** December 13, 2008, 02:03:51 PM »

Hey Stimpy (others)
I do not have 1 clue about molds and casting bullets.
Was looking in the Midway catalog at molds
and see a HUGH difference in pricing for molds.
At this time the only thing I want to do is make Gluelets.
But who knows down the road.

So, for Gluelets what mold should I get?
Pricing shows a 2 cavity Lee for $20.00
and a 6 cavity for $40.00
Seems to me for about the same money I should get
2- 2 cavity molds so one could cool while filling the other.

Mike

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 13, 2008, 02:29:11 PM »

Mike

Basically for what your wanting to do now , the Lee - 2 cav would be fine , you may even check E-bay for used at a better price . The Lee are made of Al. were as the others are steal ( better life expectancy for lead casting ) also the Al. will help disapate the heat of the hot glue a little faster .

stimpy

bilmac · « **Reply #19 on:** December 14, 2008, 09:49:21 AM »

I may be all wet but my suggestion for someone who is going to buy a mold is to get one of the heavier bullets available. With lead bullets, they generally work out better because they have a longer bearing surface.

GameHauler · « **Reply #20 on:** December 25, 2008, 08:32:38 AM »

Quote from: dakotashooter2 on December 08, 2008, 11:43:39 AM

You'll want to dedicate a few cases and drill out the primer holes a bit to prevent primer setback. I've been able to easily keep them (.41 mag) in a 3x3 post it note at about 20 feet and penetrate about 4 thicknesses of cardboard with mag primers. You also want to seat the bullets BEFORE priming them or you will have a hard time seating the bullets (pressure buildup).

Those of us who have experimented with them affectionatly refer to them as Gluelits.

Dakota, can you tell me what size to drill the primer holes out to.
Do you use the same size drill for large-small-pistol-rifle primers/
Thanks,
Mike

Lazermule · « **Reply #21 on:** December 25, 2008, 02:03:17 PM »

Stimp,

What do you use for mold release? Mine have been sort of a pain to get out of the mold. I am molding 158 grainers 357 in a Lee Mold smoked the mold good, but still sticky...

Dee · « **Reply #22 on:** December 25, 2008, 02:17:12 PM »

This an interesting idea, but why not just shove the primed cases thru a block of canning parifin? When done they are basically the same shape and configuration of a hollow base wadcutter, and you can make dozens of cartridges in a few minutes for almost nothing in cost. The parafin is dirt cheap at any grocery store.
We used to use this method, as did the FBI in swat training. Hurt like hell, and everyone wore balistic gogoles, but it did give an incentive to not get shot.

An yes you do need to drill out the primer holes, as the primer WILL set back. I always does but, a powdered charge with shove the case head back against the bolt and re-seat it.
By the way! Stay cats and dogs hate these. They are not lethal, will not cause any lasting damage, and influence such critters to say outta your yard.
When not in use, you can store them in your refrigarator. They DO NOT cause fouling problems either.
My wife want me to tell you that they will however put holes in drywall.

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 26, 2008, 03:52:41 AM »

LM

Just about any of the spray mold release agents should work , I've not have any stick so far so I can't say for sure though .

May also try some Pam cooking spray or the like , should work at the low temp of the glue .

stimpy

GameHauler · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2009, 07:49:35 AM »

Look what I did Stimpy

Now I want to load them up but never got an answer on how large to drill the flash hole out to.

HELP $:-\$

Oh, and I did use Pam and it worked just fine.
Had to reapply about every 4th casting.

Mike

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 25, 2009, 09:04:46 AM »

Mike

Starline as well as Top Brass both sell a case with a .140 flash hole for the mounted cowboys that shoot wax bullets at ballons so if your going to drill thats what I'd take them to .

I've not had a problem with the standard FH in 44 and 45 cases , but may drill a few just to see what happens .

stimpy

PS -- You did god Grasshopper

GameHauler · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2009, 09:17:53 AM »

Quote from: stimpylu32 on January 25, 2009, 09:04:46 AM

Mike

Starline as well as Top Brass both sell a case with a .140 flash hole for the mounted cowboys that shoot wax bullets at ballons so if your going to drill thats what I'd take them to .

I've not had a problem with the standard FH in 44 and 45 cases , but may drill a few just to see what happens .

stimpy

PS -- You did god Grasshopper

Thank you Master

charles p · « **Reply #27 on:** January 25, 2009, 11:13:56 AM »

Cound this technique be used to fire form Ackley Improved cases?

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 25, 2009, 11:25:26 AM »

Quote from: charles p on January 25, 2009, 11:13:56 AM

Cound this technique be used to fire form Ackley Improved cases?

It woln't build enough pressure to form brass , you could use the COW ( cream of wheat ) trick though .

stimpy

mrbigtexan · « **Reply #29 on:** January 26, 2009, 01:53:45 PM »

Quote from: stimpylu32 on January 25, 2009, 11:25:26 AM

Quote from: charles p on January 25, 2009, 11:13:56 AM
Cound this technique be used to fire form Ackley Improved cases?

It woln't build enough pressure to form brass , you could use the COW ( cream of wheat ) trick though .

stimpy

don't leave us hanging!