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Offline Chancy Shot

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Dumb question about 45-70 reloading
« on: December 09, 2008, 02:44:36 AM »
I just ordered a Buffalo Classic in 45-70 and want to start working up a load for it.  I have Winchester 45-70 brass and have ordered some 405 grain lead bullets, but cannot find any definite information on the primer to use.  I would assume it is a large rifle primer, but I hate to make assumptions about reloading.

Any other suggestions about a black powder load to start with would be appreciated. 

Thanks !!
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Re: Dumb question about 45-70 reloading
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2008, 03:21:25 AM »
yes they use large rifle primers. I just use Winchester for all my reloading as they are readily availbale near home. As for black powder loads, I cant help you there, but if i remeber right, there might be some info in the FAQ section under 45-70 loads. I have a Lyman manual and a LoadBook for mine. Both have sections on black powder loads.
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Re: Dumb question about 45-70 reloading
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 07:33:34 AM »
A very limited info from Lyman Black Powder Handbook:  Typical 45-70 load using a 405 gr Cast bullet with 70 grains( volume) Pyrodex RS gave 1250 fps from a 26" barrel.

caveat: If you are new to hand loading  let someone explain the difference between weight by scale and weight by volume to you. IT IS IMPORTANT !!!
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Re: Dumb question about 45-70 reloading
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 08:45:17 AM »
 As I under stand it, you should have NO air space between the powder and base of the bullet. A wad or some type of filler is required if black powder does not fill all the space in the case!
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Re: Dumb question about 45-70 reloading
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2008, 08:53:04 AM »
This is from the H&R FAQs and Help sticky, should help ya with the BP loads, the BC is just a fancy Handi with 10" more barrel!!  ;)

Tim

http://www.castbullet.com/shooting/1871.htm

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/board,126.0.html
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Re: Dumb question about 45-70 reloading
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2008, 11:41:11 AM »
You need to use a wad cut from tablet back or buy some veggie fiber wads.  The black powder should be compressed slightly, maybe 1/16" via powder compression die.  Then place the bullet over all this seated against the wad. Neck tensionor not is a much argued  point, you decide. Don't use your bullet to compress the powder as it will deform your soft lead bullet and cause accuracy issues. Do use a bpcr lube like shaver, dgl, spg. Loading black powder cartridge for accuracy can be a learning experience and great fun. Played the bpcr silhouette game for several years before selling out.  Crazy accuracy out to 500 meters if you do everything right.    Have fun.  SN
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