Author Topic: combine bear kill (Read 5478 times)

myronman3 · « **on:** December 10, 2008, 04:58:22 PM »

a picture is worth a thousand words. 618# killed near praire farm, wi, by a combine (or so the story goes)

Cheesehead · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2008, 05:28:36 PM »

I dont live far from there. That bear is huge! I have seen several bear this year, nothing like that.

Cheese

Graybeard · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2008, 05:32:22 PM »

Sorry but that photo isn't even worth two cents it's way too faked to even tell if the bear is an adult to be honest. No bear that ever walked is as large as that photo makes that one look. Since they faked that who knows what else might be faked. I sure see no damage I'd have expected a combine to make. I suspect there is more to the story than meets the eye.

379 Peterbilt · « **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2008, 08:41:14 PM »

To the best of my knowlege, there have been three instances of combines running over bear dens. All in Wisconsin. The first two were about 1 week apart back in late 2006.

First one came in at about 300 pounds:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearcombine.asp

Second one came in at about 540 pounds and 8 feet from nose to tail:
http://www.bear-hunting.com/news.cfm?Action=News&NewsFlashID=261

Third one is the one Myronman posted, which was killed last month, but only made the news early this week.
http://www.wqow.com/Global/story.asp?S=9478042

The same picture Myronman posted in all over the internet. Truely a big bear indeed.

myronman3 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 11, 2008, 01:06:35 AM »

believe what you want to believe, but we have some HUGE bears here. most are between 200 and 350, but there are the big boys that dwarf the 350lb ones. i have seen quite a few of the big ones in the last few years. this year alone i have seen 16 bear, my wife has seen 15 bear, and my brother lost count halfway through the summer.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #5 on:** December 11, 2008, 03:06:24 AM »

Maybe there is more bear than deer in Wisconsin.

Cheese

sonofafish · « **Reply #6 on:** December 11, 2008, 03:25:26 AM »

Man that is something else.

myronman3 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 11, 2008, 05:52:01 AM »

Quote from: Cheesehead on December 11, 2008, 03:06:24 AM

Maybe there is more bear than deer in Wisconsin.

Cheese

i have seen way more bear this year than bucks

Cheesehead · « **Reply #8 on:** December 11, 2008, 05:59:32 AM »

Quote from: myronman3 on December 11, 2008, 05:52:01 AM

Quote from: Cheesehead on December 11, 2008, 03:06:24 AM
Maybe there is more bear than deer in Wisconsin.

Cheese
i have seen way more bear this year than bucks

Same here!

I think they should be as liberal with bear tags as deer tags.

Cheese

Skunk · « **Reply #9 on:** December 11, 2008, 06:11:46 AM »

Wow, that is a biggin. Makes me proud he is (was) from Wisconsin.

myronman3 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 11, 2008, 10:28:24 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard on December 10, 2008, 05:32:22 PM

Sorry but that photo isn't even worth two cents it's way too faked to even tell if the bear is an adult to be honest. No bear that ever walked is as large as that photo makes that one look. Since they faked that who knows what else might be faked. I sure see no damage I'd have expected a combine to make. I suspect there is more to the story than meets the eye.

http://www.bear.org/website/Links/Government-Wildlife-Agencies-Untited-States/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=56
here is a link to a bear, after dieting, is down to some 800 lbs and change.

Graybeard · « **Reply #11 on:** December 11, 2008, 10:51:57 AM »

I see you still don't get it. The photo is faked. The perspective is totally wrong. To be believeable the ceiling would have to be 15' to 18' tall. Do you REALLY believe that?

The bear in the photo may be huge but if so why go to the faked photo to make it look that way. Take an honest photo and publish it. That's all I'm saying. The camera is right at the bear and the little old lady is far behind him. Get things in the correct planes and take an image so you have something to compare to.

buck460XVR · « **Reply #12 on:** December 11, 2008, 12:58:53 PM »

Quote from: Graybeard on December 11, 2008, 10:51:57 AM

I see you still don't get it. The photo is faked. The perspective is totally wrong. To be believeable the ceiling would have to be 15' to 18' tall. Do you REALLY believe that?

Could very well be. My friend's machine shed where he stores his combine has 16 foot high doors and the ceiling is at least 2 feet above the top of the tracks. It may not be a good picture, but I don't think the folk that took it meant to distort the size. The story has been on local TV and in local newspapers and the length and weight have been verified. Even with a 12 row combine, it had to be a 'ell of a "bump".

EsoxLucius · « **Reply #13 on:** December 11, 2008, 03:03:57 PM »

The photo is not faked, these people I doubt would even know how to fake a photo, there was obviously no thought put into how the photo would look as they weren't thinking about that. Point and click. Sure the women grabbing the ladder is a ways behind the bear, but the bear was 618 lbs. dressed confirmed by a Wisconsin Conservation Warden who needed to tag it and was there when they weighed it. What farmer doesn't have a machine shed, many of which have 20 foot or higher walls? Want a closer look:
http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bearwisconsin.jpg Maximize the browser window.

379 Peterbilt · « **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2008, 03:27:27 PM »

I dont think the photo has been altered either. The woman is quite possibly a smaller fat gal. And the ladder looks like a 6 -7 footer, with about the standard one foot increments between each rung.

And it looks like it was taken at a meat locker, not in a machine shed.

It aint like these folks are trying to pass this bear off as some kind of HUNT kill record, like we saw with Freddy the 1000+ pound "wild" boar that was killed "freerange" by that kid down south last year, then photoshopped all to hell.

myronman3 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 11, 2008, 03:43:38 PM »

the last three posts are dead on the money.
yes, the woman is behind the bear, not a doubt about that. it looks like she is trying to position the ladder, or move it for reference. believe that bear is every bit as big as it looks. i have another photo of a bear that was killed i believe by a car, and it was a BIG bear as well. i dont remember the intricate details of that one, it was last fall.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #16 on:** December 11, 2008, 04:29:51 PM »

I have seen some VERY large bears in Wisconsin, especially in Sawyer county. It can be unnerving while bow hunting deer from a ground blind at close range. The photos look real and are entirely possible.

Cheese

guzzi2000 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 12, 2008, 03:11:34 PM »

I live about 15 miles north of there and was in a local sportshop and the story is they were estimating the live weight around 700 pounds. A women took one about 600 pounds bow hunting this year in our area.

Graybeard · « **Reply #18 on:** December 12, 2008, 06:15:11 PM »

Last post.

Geez you guys are too damn blinded by pride in the size of the bears in your state to even open your eyes. The ceiling is clearly an 8' one look at the door and ceiling in the photo. the bear even stretched with his nose in the air and feet hanging unnaturally low strectch at most 6' apart. Flat footed the bear was perhaps 5' to 5' 6" tall no more. I got no clue what it weighted and clearly neither does anyone else as no one has shown any evidence it was put on a scale.

Bears under 6' are not monsters. The photo was staged to make it look three times as big as it is. Staged equals faked.

myronman3 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 13, 2008, 03:21:38 AM »

sorry, g.b. we addressed that already. we all can plainly see how the woman is standing in the background. but faked? the facts are the story was on the local news, i saw it myself, and the weight and story are documented. i know in this day and age of the internet stories surface that more often than not turn out to be bumpkus. there are several of us from this area who have posted verification of the story.

Skunk · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2008, 05:32:03 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard on December 12, 2008, 06:15:11 PM

Geez you guys are too damn blinded by pride in the size of the bears in your state to even open your eyes. The ceiling is clearly an 8' one look at the door and ceiling in the photo.

Regardless of the ceiling height, or how the bear is hung

, all one really needs to do is look at the girth of that dude's neck and the size of his legs and paws to see that he is indeed huge - a monster.

ihookem · « **Reply #21 on:** December 13, 2008, 03:30:03 PM »

Oh the woman is grabbing a ladder? I thought she was grabbing for something else saying look at the size of this one. The garbage can is 3' tall and seems the bear could be 8' streched out but I just don't think black bears get that big anywhere. It would have to be over a thousand pounds. But Graybeard you have to understand, dis is Wisconsin, da land of bigfoot, Hodags and such. Noone even wants to know what else is walking dem big nort woods! Even got a ghost up in Paulding, Michigan, a railroad man that died from a train with a lantern in his hand and comes back to the same spot every night still holding the lantern! Google up Paulding lights sometime and then you will BELIEVE!

myronman3 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 13, 2008, 04:21:46 PM »

hey look.... this is something that happened close to where i live, and i thought you guys might enjoy checking it out. yeah, it is bizarre. yeah, it is big. yeah, she is standing behind the bear so she looks smaller. but they didnt fake anything. the story is legit, and factual.
i did not intend to ruffle any feathers or irritate anyone. it is getting to the point that a fellow cant do anything without someone getting irritated about it. between bush being the devil, and obama being the anti christ, i cant keep up anymore. sorry for the thread.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #23 on:** December 13, 2008, 06:15:42 PM »

AND YOU SHOULD BE SORRY AND I HOPE YOU LEARNED A LESSON FORM ALL OF THIS!

Cheese

myronman3 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 13, 2008, 06:39:49 PM »

now i am trying to find a avatar that folks like even less.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #25 on:** December 14, 2008, 06:38:26 AM »

Quote from: myronman3 on December 13, 2008, 06:39:49 PM

a avatar that folks like even less.

I like it... your avatar that is...

buck460XVR · « **Reply #26 on:** December 14, 2008, 07:31:55 AM »

Quote from: ihookem on December 13, 2008, 03:30:03 PM

Even got a ghost up in Paulding, Michigan, a railroad man that died from a train with a lantern in his hand and comes back to the same spot every night still holding the lantern! Google up Paulding lights sometime and then you will BELIEVE!

seen the Paulding lights myself several times.....I believe.

ihookem · « **Reply #27 on:** December 14, 2008, 08:22:01 AM »

Just kidding with you Myron man, It does look too big for it to be real though, how much did it weigh? Also, I was going to tell you I like your old picture better but though it would be rude. Did you wove to Ellsworth yet?

myronman3 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2008, 10:00:24 AM »

family is there, i am not yet. anyday. waiting for the company to give me the word on when to report.

ihookem · « **Reply #29 on:** December 14, 2008, 11:27:26 AM »

Nice country, the flathead catfishing is awsum on the Missy, 30 pound is common and they taste darn good too.