Obama deserves as much of a chance with conservatives....

[Questor]

...as George W. Bush got with the liberals. None.

[Dee]

Unfortunately Questor, GW pushed the 700 billion dollar bailout, and then signed it, the Patriot Act, and signed it, and so on. He has done more to turn the country to socialism than anyone since Lincoln. We will see how you and we like it when a marxist uses the laws a socialist pushed thru, left for him to play with.

[myronman3]

...as George W. Bush got with the liberals. None.

ah yes...partisan politics.    yup, thats going to do everyone alot of good.  so, if he has the best idea ever, and the country is going to benefit from it, you are going to be against him because the libs treated bush with hate and contempt?   how does that benefit anyone?

[DFBonnett]

...as George W. Bush got with the liberals. None.

I can certainly appreciate your sentiment. That being said, with the "Anointed One" I'm going to hope for the best but plan for and anticipate the worst.

[myronman3]

I can certainly appreciate your sentiment. That being said, with the "Anointed One" I'm going to hope for the best but plan for and anticipate the worst.

that statement i can appreciate. 

[Graybeard]

Since he has yet to prove he is legally able to hold the office, since he got it thru a combination of theft and money and threats I see no reason to give him any benefit of any doubt or chance to prove anything. His folks have already clearly stated he is "ready to rule" on day one.

[jk3006]

Obama is an abomination, just like Georgy is.  On top of all the other things that have been said about him, Jerome Corsey just got done writing his book, The Obama Nation, and describes Obama's connections to radical fascist Islam in Kenya.  Very interesting.  He's got charisma, otherwise he wouldn't have anything at all. 

[Troyboy]

I still can't believe america has a commander and chief that has a muslim name

[Dee]

I still can't believe america has a commander and chief that has a muslim name

Well the present commander in chief is named after a plant. Bush? Get it? 

[Skunk]

I still can't believe america has a commander and chief that has a muslim name

Well the present commander in chief is named after a plant. Bush? Get it? 

I can think of another name for a "Bush" that might be more fitting for George.

[torpedoman]

one of bushes first statements was "bring me an assault weapons ban and i'll sign it"

[jk3006]

I see no reason to believe why George W's ideology is any different than his father's and grandfather's (Prescott), who, by the way, was a Nazi sympathizer and financial supporter; and who also was involved in organizing a coup against the US government.  Gen. Smedley Butler thankfully blew it wide open.

[myronman3]

well you guys have fun hating....be careful you dont give yourself an ulcer with all that stress you are putting on yourself.   

[Cheesehead]

Time for the big "get even" even at the countries expense.

Cheese

[ms]

I see no reason to believe why George W's ideology is any different than his father's and grandfather's (Prescott), who, by the way, was a Nazi sympathizer and financial supporter; and who also was involved in organizing a coup against the US government.  Gen. Smedley Butler thankfully blew it wide open.

Now we can't tell the truth around here. Powderman & billy will get mad .  

[Dee]

well you guys have fun hating....be careful you dont give yourself an ulcer with all that stress you are putting on yourself.   

You call telling the truth about someone hating them? That's as wild as your face paint. You need to give up on making personal analogies of folks that enjoy poking fun at our leaders hypocrisies. You suck at it.
As I recall you HATE skinnies don't you?

[jk3006]

I agree that hatred can cause physical problems in one's system, but it will be real hard for the American people not to desire to take a pitch fork after Bush, Chaney, and the like once they (the American people) find out exactly how bad this crisis will get.  I don't think we've barely touched the surface of it yet. 

Chaney has already planned to move to Dubai.  He's built a house over there.  These corrupt leaders of ours will not want to stick around, and they know this.  Of course, I primarily hold the American people at fault for being so ignorant of what money is, how it works, and so on and so forth.  We are responsible for allowing things to get this bad. 

[jimster]

"We will see how you and we like it when a marxist uses the laws a socialist pushed thru, left for him to play with."

Sounds like Dee summed it up 25 words or less....been thinking these same thoughts myself. 

[JonnyC]

I still can't believe america has a commander and chief that has a muslim name

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN BECOME PRESIDENT WITH A NAME THAT ISN'T AMERICAN.  HOW UNAMERICAN IS THAT STATEMENT ?

[myronman3]

You call telling the truth about someone hating them? That's as wild as your face paint. You need to give up on making personal analogies of folks that enjoy poking fun at our leaders hypocrisies. You stink at it.
As I recall you HATE skinnies don't you?

all true except about the part of "you stink at it".    the difference dee, is that i do not obsess about the skinnies.  i dont walk around in a fume about it constantly.  when i cross their paths it is something i have to address, or when stories on the news pop up.  but it doesnt ruin my day or effect my mood.   see the difference? 

[Dee]

You call telling the truth about someone hating them? That's as wild as your face paint. You need to give up on making personal analogies of folks that enjoy poking fun at our leaders hypocrisies. You stink at it.
As I recall you HATE skinnies don't you?

all true except about the part of "you stink at it".    the difference dee, is that i do not obsess about the skinnies.  i dont walk around in a fume about it constantly.  when i cross their paths it is something i have to address, or when stories on the news pop up.  but it doesnt ruin my day or effect my mood.   see the difference? 

myronman3 your so full of it. The difference is that I doubt you have done half (or less) of anything you say. Everyone was having a good time and you tried to take a high road that wasn't there. For the most part I think you are merely guilty of an over active imagination.
I have a 23 year old son that has seen more "actual combat" (3 tours) than "YOU OR I", have seen on TV. I have an Uncle that has 7 Bronze stars, and two Purple Hearts, a cousin that had 3 helicopters shot out from under him in Vietnam as a member of a Marine firebase landing team. My POINT! None of them brag about killing anybody! None of them WANT to kill anyone else. They have all came back with the DIGNITY OF HAVING BEEN THERE, SURVIVED, AND GIVEN IT (WAR) THE QUITE RESPECT IT COST THEM AND OTHERS.
My 20 years of law enforcement even as a swat team leader, and tactical K-9 Sgt., "PALE" to their experiences, and yours, I believe is PROBABLY non-existent. Do I believe you were in the military? You probably were, and I respect your service. BUT! I have PERSONALLY had the experience of standing over someone after a police shooting, and it was NOT an enjoyable experience as you and others depict it. It was a very humbling experience to think what you just did, even though it was justified.
The others and I on this thread were having a little fun, and YOU brought yourself into it with this hate crap. And crap is what it is. Am I angry? Heavens no. This is a bunch of typed words by folks we will most likely never meet. And that's what folks like you count on. You can be anything you want to be on the Internet, and many times ANYTHING YOU ARENT.

[Questor]

Dee:

"take the high road that wasn't there". Ha! I seldom laugh out loud, but that did it. It's so funny....because it's correct. There is no high road when dealing with the guy who is on record as advocating so many things that are against my way of life.

[magooch]

President Bush may not deserve a lot of credit on some issues, but one thing he did was to keep this country safe from further terror attacks.  Now maybe that isn't a big deal to some of you, but he just might have saved your butt too.

There hasn't been a President that I agreed with on everything, nor one that I disagreed with on everything.  Just remember one thing; we've had a dumocrat congress for the past two years and that was when things started going down the chute.  Presidents are not kings, or dictators and none of them has been perfect.  As I remember it, George Bush and the Republicans tried time after time to do some of the things that might have headed off the troubles we are now experiencing, but the dumocrats were always there to squelch it.

I believe we should give Osama a chance; that's why I say, swingem.

[myronman3]

flat out dee, you know nothing of what you speak.  

you want to attack folks...fine.   here some facts for you... the recurrent theme in all of your accusations of others, you consistantly brag about other peoples, NOT YOUR OWN, military records.  you never served.  all you can do is tell other people's stories.   you are a never was.  
   i could tell you about my grandfather, who was at d-day.  or i could tell you about my dad, who was in viet nam before anyone ever even heard of it.  but i wont.  i talk about MY service, which is something you can not do.  all you can do is make accusations about my service.   who the hell are you?  you are nothing but a never was.   you know nothing of respect and honor.  nothing.  
   i am sure i served with and probably trained some of the guys your son is serving under.   I served.   do you have a blue shoulder cord? a c.i.b.? even an e.i.b.?  how many jumps have you got?  personal friends k.i.a.? ever been in a c130 circling above a foriegn country waiting for the green light to jump into combat? have you bled for your country? do you have a dd214? if not, stfu about other people's service.  you are like a little boy talking about his tough daddy, while you stand there and wet your pants.  yeah, you say you honor other peoples service, but the reality is you are just using that phrase to  distract while you are really %!$$ing on their service.  just like in "josie wales"...dont *!$$ down my back and tell me it's raining.
  

it was NOT an enjoyable experience as you and others depict it.

some people see it differently.    some have problems with it, some see it as shooting a rat, others outright enjoy it.  if you have met half the operators i have, you would know this.
fact.....you are a never was

[jk3006]

Excuse me, but to make a statement like this is to claim that the president has been honest in his dealings.  I've got news for you.  As much as you'd probably like to sweep the 9/11 Truth Movement under the rug, there are many things about that day and the events surrounding it that the government (and its commission) have not adequately explained at all.  In other words, the jury is very much still out as to how much government involvement there was that day.  The evidence says that there was quite a bit of collusion. 

President Bush may not deserve a lot of credit on some issues, but one thing he did was to keep this country safe from further terror attacks. 

[Dee]

No myronman3 I am not trying to distract anyone. You are quick to criticize, and I too have been guilty of such. What I am saying is I think your full of you know what.
I DO OCCASIONALLY show my pride of some of my family members, and that is an undeniable fact.
Respect and Honor. Interesting words to be sure, but I am careful how I use them, and I don't throw them around.
You started this with your HATE criticism, when I and others were kidding around. I didn't make any accusations about your service. I believe you served. I also believe your experience is way over-stated. This is my opinion, and I ask for no support from anyone, and not for a second expected you to like it.
 
Your condescending remarks about our hate causing us to have ulcers and undue stress was a PERSONAL ATTACK against we whom were have the discussion. It was not about you, and you tried to talk down to us, and criticized us for our remarks while pretending to know something about us. You don't.
I usually "pass you by" as of late when I see a post of yours, but alas you started the condesencion here, and now you don't like it.

Oh, and as far as friends killed in the line of duty, or k.i.a. as you say. I have lost numerous friends whom were killed in the line of duty over a twenty year period, and will probably lose more. There are more ways to serve ones country than the military. Police and Firemen are just one of many. And we have lost, and will lose more. And yes, I have bled for my country "men".
I will gladly, and already have leave you out of my sights, if you will do the same. You say I am a never was, and as far as the military you are correct. I am a never was, and I believe you are a fraud.
Are we done now, or do you want to talk some more about how brave you are, and how brave I am not? And calm down a little, even your typing looks stessed out.

[Dee]

Excuse me, but to make a statement like this is to claim that the president has been honest in his dealings.  I've got news for you.  As much as you'd probably like to sweep the 9/11 Truth Movement under the rug, there are many things about that day and the events surrounding it that the government (and its commission) have not adequately explained at all.  In other words, the jury is very much still out as to how much government involvement there was that day.  The evidence says that there was quite a bit of collusion. 

President Bush may not deserve a lot of credit on some issues, but one thing he did was to keep this country safe from further terror attacks. 

Watch out there jk3006. Your going to get ulcers. 

[myronman3]

share your stash, dee. 
     i said K.I.A., not 'in the line of duty'.  i take it the answer is no.

    personal attack, shmersonal attack.  you are full of it; and you know it. 

Time for the big "get even" even at the countries expense.

Cheese

this is the point.  sorry it went over your head.  yeah, i know it didnt really, and i understand that is your sorry excuse for your sorry self.  it was just another excuse for you to start with you to try to prop yourself up by *!$$!*$ on other people. 
  me leave you out of my sights?  hilarious!  when have i ever started with you?  just because i dont back down from you, doesnt mean i am aiming for you.   you are the one starting it all.  dont expect me to sit back and take it. 

There are more ways to serve ones country than the military.

no kidding.  that is what you always fall back on, after making your accusations.  start touting your own record instead boasting of other's actions.  so predictable.   you project yourself as one thing, but truthfully you know you are something else altogether. 

[myronman3]

one more thing...if you were my dad, and *!$$*%^ on the good names of the guys that came before me, i would knock your teeth out and disown you.  thankfully MY father knows about true honor. and he has his own record so he dont have to brag about mine.   you are a shame to your son.  and if he has a beef with that, send him my way here on g.b. outdoors, i will send him some links to read, and if after reading it, he is proud of what you have done and said to me, him and i can go from there.   i can show true respect for his service, unlike yours, cause it DONT EXIST.

[Dee]

So your not done. Didn't think so. Your irrational behavior on line is a sign of instability under stress. You wind up way to easily, to have done what you claim to have done. You'd never pass the psychological exam for such a job, military or other wise. All you have to do is keep your condescending remarks to yourself when your not being talked to or about. It wasn't really necessary the remarks you made.
Also. Killed in the line of duty, killed in action, while doing ones duty is the same. Soldiers die doing their duty. Police officers die doing their duty. Firemen die while doing their duty. All three did so while protecting Americans, and their freedoms, and serving their country and their fellow man. To say there is a difference is to degrade the sacrifice of  those whom not only served in one or the other, but to degrade those whom died, and their families.
What difference does it make whether one jumped out of a plane, helicopter, beach landing craft, squad car, swat van, motorcycle, or fire truck. As I said. I respect ALL branches of the service, and ALL Police Officers and Firemen. They all do a dangerous job. They all see things and do things, that affect them, and their families forever.
You have worked yourself once again into a lather, trying to convince all that you are born again cold hearted warrior killer, and anyone less than your CLAIM TO FAME, is somehow less of a man. You express yourself like a Internet Rambo, which I believe you are. It is YOU whom I don't have any respect for. I think your a fraud.
You get what you give. You give BS, you get BS. Now are you done?