It was pointed out, that in 2007, both GM, and Toyota sold the same number of vehicles worldwide. GM said it lost money, Toyota made money. Better mangement, probably. Lower overhead, definitly. Workers for Honda or Toyota make on the average, with benifits,$48/hr. GM,Ford,Chyrsler, over $70. I haven't been able to buy a new car/truck since 1979. These guys/gals better do some long hard thinking. Having a job at half that pay is better than what most unskilled workers get now. gypsyman