Author Topic: OCCUPIED ISRAEL. (Read 10118 times)

jimster · « **Reply #30 on:** December 29, 2008, 10:44:07 AM »

At this point in history, does it really matter who started what or why? Far back as you go they did not get along, and there is lots of reading to be done on all of that, most the reading I've read just makes me think the Palestinians are murderous cut throats all the way back to the biblical times...and OK..maybe someone made them that way back then I guess would be the argument...who cares really. Whatever reason they are shooting things at people they will be swatted like flies eventually no matter what. We would do the same thing if some people just across the Mexican border were shooting Rockets at Texas I would imagine.
As far as how much land Israel has, I look at a map and see a pretty small spec called Israel and the vast area around them wants them dead...for whatever reason...and that reason doesn't matter much either, it's just the way it is and Israel will have to do things in order to survive. We could debate all day on who's fault it is, or when it was their fault, but none of it matters now does it. Ya, sure Israel could give up more of their little spec, doesn't sound real smart to me...but then I'm not as read up and polished on all these matters like the people who copy and paste from books on here.

I'll shoot a dog that bites no matter how long it's been in the family regardless of what it was that made him get that way. Don't have much of choice there if you want to protect others. I also prefer certain breeds to others when it comes to being around grandkids. That might not be the fault of the breeds I don't like either, just the way it is. So be it.

I don't think anyone is ever going to make things peachy in those places over there, it's like trying to train a hyper snippy rat terrier to act like a Beagle. Your almost better off to shoot the little snippy dog and let others ponder on why you did that. Safety first...debate later.
This is a problem that won't go away with anyone being nice, things have been bred into people over that way. It's how it is.

Totenkopf · « **Reply #31 on:** December 29, 2008, 10:54:42 AM »

Very good insight jimster, never thought of it in that respect.
Good day

powderman · « **Reply #32 on:** December 29, 2008, 12:42:35 PM »

I'm glad that some of you see things the way they are. Israel should not let up as long as the Godless ones insist on firing rockets at Israels citizens. Any NORMAL person should be able to see that it's not just coincidence the Godless ones rockets are not real effective. God is with Israel and has no doubt helped redirect those thousands of rockets fired at his people, by the devils people. Anybody with ANY sense should see that their allah just aint doing the job for them. The goal of islam was, is, always will be the anhilation of every man, woman, and child, that refuses to accept their devils cult. Mohamed was a lot of things. Murderer, rapist, child molester, and more, but certainly not a prophet of God. I hope Israel doesn't have to use ground troops. Bomb them til hamas stops firing rockets. Hamas is well known for their terrorist activities, even knowing this they were ELECTED, I don't feel sorry for any of them. Hope they all get what they deserve. After it's over there should be NO HELP from America or anybody else to rebuild, let their Godless neighbors do it. Let em feed themselves, no more aid, free meals, NOTHING. Islam is a rapidly growing cancer and the sooner the world sees it for what it is, the better we'll all be. Got cancer??? Cut it out. POWDERMAN.

powderman · « **Reply #33 on:** December 29, 2008, 01:47:58 PM »

Just saw on the news hamas is crying saying that mean ol Israel is attacking for NO REASON. He seems to forget the hundreds of rockets his Godless friends have fired at Israeli citizens just this past week. I read somewhere that Israel has been hit with thousands of rockets from gaza in the past year. Every time the Godless ones attack Israel they get their butts handed to them in a sling. You would think that any NORMAL person would see that their allah just aint doing it for them. POWDERMAN.

jimster · « **Reply #34 on:** December 29, 2008, 02:07:53 PM »

Well Tm7, I never figured my post to be complicated, or even food for debate...I was just saying things are what they are and the reason does not matter...

As far as your question... "can you explain how launching unguided missiles, many without warheads, would possibly benefit the Palestinians and their cause..? How does reportedly launching hundreds of missles that basically kill no one benefit the Palestinians"

Anyone launching anything at all at anyone at all will be swatted, who gives a rip if something is guided or unguided?

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Guess you lost me on that one.

"So, how does that benefit them.?" OK...I guess they are stupid as well as dangerous. So what? are you telling me to just let them fire away until they hit something more often?

I think I was just being kind of uncomplicated there....things are what they are....and if someone is slinging some firebombs at my house but don't have a very good aim, I'd just as soon kill them before they get lucky. Regardless of why they are doing it! Someone else can feel sorry for them, after I fix the danger part of it.

Totenkopf · « **Reply #35 on:** December 29, 2008, 02:18:09 PM »

I hope they find some good cover in Gaza. The 6 day war in 1967 against Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordan produced these results.

Jews muslims
777 killed 21,210 killed
2,563 wounded 45,871 wounded
0 missing 6,025 missing
15 captured 6,907 captured
46 aircraft lost 497 aircraft lost

Those two antisemitic fellows might be on to something. This is unfair. Israel needs to quit using conventional weapons and use wrist rockets. Maybe then the muslims would have a fighting chance. Well that theory wont work, proven in the Bible. Pharaoh learned that the hard way.

powderman · « **Reply #36 on:** December 29, 2008, 02:58:56 PM »

TOTENKOPF. I remember the 67 war. Life magazine had pics of thousands of enemy taks just before the battle started. Instead of circling her wagons Israel ATTACKED them all. I believe 7 arab nations fought at once. Those tanks were just twisted hunks of metal in the next pic. Israel went through them all like a hot knife through butter. Still there are those who can't, or WON'T see Gods hand in this. The Godless ones were armed with the best russian equipment money could buy, but the big difference was Gods hand protecting his chosen ones. POWDERMAN.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 29, 2008, 04:21:14 PM »

Well SOP for a Muslim, well what can we expect from a religion that was started by a murduring, robbing, child molester?

Hey so who is the most ignored person on GBO? TM7? MS? Well a guy can only listen to so much of thier hate America love the muslim/nazi crap.

eod20 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 29, 2008, 04:26:02 PM »

don't sell the IDF short alot of what happened was a very well trained service executing a very tough and well rehearsed mission plan and they had EXCELENT Intel on all targets and the enemy battle plan read that to mean lots of good spies but there still had to be someone looking over their shoulder with protection in mind

ironglow · « **Reply #39 on:** December 29, 2008, 04:29:42 PM »

   OK...Let's cut to the quick! Under the auspices of both Bill Clinton and G W Bush, the Muslims in Palestinian area traded "land for piece".
  They got parts of the West Bank one time and the Gaza Strip next....each time promising "peace". They immediately broke any solemn promises they ever made. Liars as well as terrorists!
  In the last 3 years, more than 6,000 rockets have rained down on Israel, not only indiscriminately killing many; but actually targeting as best they can, children's schools.
   How long would WE take missles raining down on Texas from Juarez, or missles raining down on Detroit from Saulte St Marie? Does anyone think for one moment that we would be so patient as to allow nearly 6,000 strikes before putting a firm stop to the practice?
   As jimster says..I wouldn't care as to the "provocation", lying terrorists can make up all kinds of excuses. What is important is what is happening RIGHT NOW...and who the reckless aggressor is.
As I originally asked; ..When are the regular Palestinian people ever going to catch on that their REAL enemy is the terrorists living among them...who bring down the righteous wrath of Israel upon them?

Can anyone here be so blind as to think that if the Muslims had minded their own business and left Israel alone..Israel would have attacked them ?
That indeed, would be very blind! Surely we all know that the Muslims could stop the turmoil tomorrow..simply by leaving Israel alone and minding their own business.

nomosendero · « **Reply #40 on:** December 29, 2008, 05:14:25 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on December 29, 2008, 04:29:42 PM

OK...Let's cut to the quick! Under the auspices of both Bill Clinton and G W Bush, the Muslims in Palestinian area traded "land for piece".
  They got parts of the West Bank one time and the Gaza Strip next....each time promising "peace". They immediately broke any solemn promises they ever made. Liars as well as terrorists!
  In the last 3 years, more than 6,000 rockets have rained down on Israel, not only indiscriminately killing many; but actually targeting as best they can, children's schools.
   How long would WE take missles raining down on Texas from Juarez, or missles raining down on Detroit from Saulte St Marie? Does anyone think for one moment that we would be so patient as to allow nearly 6,000 strikes before putting a firm stop to the practice?
   As jimster says..I wouldn't care as to the "provocation", lying terrorists can make up all kinds of excuses. What is important is what is happening RIGHT NOW...and who the reckless aggressor is.
As I originally asked; ..When are the regular Palestinian people ever going to catch on that their REAL enemy is the terrorists living among them...who bring down the righteous wrath of Israel upon them?

Can anyone here be so blind as to think that if the Muslims had minded their own business and left Israel alone..Israel would have attacked them ?
That indeed, would be very blind! Surely we all know that the Muslims could stop the turmoil tomorrow..simply by leaving Israel alone and minding their own business.

One does not have to go far to see such blindness.

Graybeard · « **Reply #41 on:** December 29, 2008, 06:10:23 PM »

MS isn't even in the running TM7 has the lead over all the rest I think. Seven of us are ignoring him to only four of you ignoring MS. Heck ole William Layton might even have MS beat.

powderman · « **Reply #42 on:** December 29, 2008, 11:20:21 PM »

News is now saying the Godless ones want a truce. They never want peace if they are winning, only when they are getting their butts soundly whupped. I hope Israel keeps it up and totally destroys hamas and the rest of the Godless ones go somewhere else and leave Israeli soil for good. POWDERMAN.

ms · « **Reply #43 on:** December 30, 2008, 12:59:31 AM »

Quote from: powderman on December 29, 2008, 11:20:21 PM

News is now saying the Godless ones want a truce. They never want peace if they are winning, only when they are getting their butts soundly whupped. I hope Israel keeps it up and totally destroys hamas and the rest of the Godless ones go somewhere else and leave Israeli soil for good. POWDERMAN.

Jesus must be so proud of you. You have so must joy in your heart to see people die.

ms · « **Reply #44 on:** December 30, 2008, 01:03:06 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on December 29, 2008, 04:21:14 PM

Well SOP for a Muslim, well what can we expect from a religion that was started by a murduring, robbing, child molester?

Hey so who is the most ignored person on GBO? TM7? MS? Well a guy can only listen to so much of thier hate America love the muslim/nazi crap.

I try to beat TM7 but he tells the truth faster then me.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #45 on:** December 30, 2008, 02:14:16 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on December 30, 2008, 01:24:29 AM

ms.....for being ignored we sure got alot of people talking about us... It is not just about ignoring us...it is about ignoring a whole lot more. Now we can talk about those ignoring us and they will never know it..
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Jimster...not trying to hop on your case or complicate things for you. Sad truth is that things in the ME are quite complicated. I think you saw my point in part....it does not benefit the muzzies to continuously attack the Iswaelis with ineffective carnival rockets...it behooves that bordless nation to be attacked for the sake of their expansion.
Now, the question is if somebody took pot shots at your kids going to school, poisoned your well, bulldozed your home, uprooted your olive orchard, killed most of your family, stole your property, continuosuly maligned you and your religion, dumped their sewage in your market place, beamed pornography into your neighborhood, air attacked your schools and churches, ignored 69 UN resolutions, has 600 nukes ready to launch around the world, and had a big Uncle financing all this satanism....would you fight back if you had nothing else to lose...??

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If issy ground troops go into Gaza it will be more muzzie massacre that zio Christians enjoy so much....I doubt they will meet the resistance they meant with in Lebanon last time they forayed into that territory under the same old
tired excuse of of quelling 'rocket attacks'. One would think that in 50 years of conflict these muzzies would come up with some rockets and devices a whole lot more effective than kartucha and bengala carnival rockets...since they rarely ever kill or hit targets and the issy response is always the same regardless. Meanwhile, just about any body can go into a ME bizarre and purchase bengala rockets.

...TM7

If I were in that situation, I would move far away, forever, taking my family with me. Otherwise it is like shooting at a grizzly bear with a BB gun, suicidal as they are proving to the world. Suicide is a poor option and not every one is so inclined, Muslim or not.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #46 on:** December 30, 2008, 03:02:13 AM »

In the end one side will win . hope it is not them !
All the talk is not going to stop the out come just prolong it !

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #47 on:** December 30, 2008, 03:43:16 AM »

My opinion of this Israel?

Israel is one hell of a country to be allied with. These guys should've laid it on even harder than they did during the 6 day war. Now is the time for them to take back what is theirs. They have been persecuted, bombed, shot, rocketed, knifed, on a daily basis an a daily basis. They need to turn loose of their soldiers and not stop until they have back what is rightfully theirs. The US should back them in this effort, nay, we should be standing shoulder to shoulder in this undertaking. If the arab world wants to make war with our ally, lets show them how to wage one. Not this "congress" way of doing it in Iraq, but rather the good ol fashion way of doing it.

Just my .02 cents
Sam

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #48 on:** December 30, 2008, 04:27:28 AM »

A GOOD $.02 !

rex6666 · « **Reply #49 on:** December 30, 2008, 05:55:34 AM »

This mourning on the news they said looks like Israel is not just planning to
stop the terrorist this time but killing them all. What a shame that Palestine
has not learned its lesson before, some where they keep getting the idea
they can beat Israel. They are crying foul now, let them cry for a couple of weeks
while Israel sorts them out.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 30, 2008, 06:03:19 AM »

TM and MS, being I can't see what you guys are writing, I do have one question, and forgive me if you have answered it. Being you love the anti American muslim terrorists so much, why are you living here? Why are you not there fighting for the cause you believe in so much? Is it cowardice? Is it that you just like to stir up trouble? If you are silly enough to think that Islam is not a dangerous sick cult, then it is a testament to your illness.

SM Bob · « **Reply #51 on:** December 30, 2008, 07:18:06 AM »

Quote from: Totenkopf on December 29, 2008, 02:18:09 PM

I hope they find some good cover in Gaza. The 6 day war in 1967 against Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordan produced these results.

Jews muslims
777 killed 21,210 killed
2,563 wounded 45,871 wounded
0 missing 6,025 missing
15 captured 6,907 captured
46 aircraft lost 497 aircraft lost

Those two antisemitic fellows might be on to something. This is unfair. Israel needs to quit using conventional weapons and use wrist rockets. Maybe then the muslims would have a fighting chance. Well that theory wont work, proven in the Bible. Pharaoh learned that the hard way.

Robert

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #52 on:** December 30, 2008, 07:21:52 AM »

Billy if you have chose to ignore these two fellows, then please don't post comments based on the fact that you haven't read what they have said.

The idea of a "forum" is to read what everybody has stated then form an organized opinion or thought based on the "thread".

Since you have chose to ignore them, then don't post wanting to know what they have to say... We call that trolling.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #53 on:** December 30, 2008, 07:32:07 AM »

ISRAEL is surrounded with its back to the sea . They have to fight or swim . Only a fool would attack them as loosing is not an option for them !

ms · « **Reply #54 on:** December 30, 2008, 07:50:38 AM »

Quote from: Singleshotsam on December 30, 2008, 07:21:52 AM

Billy if you have chose to ignore these two fellows, then please don't post comments based on the fact that you haven't read what they have said.

The idea of a "forum" is to read what everybody has stated then form an organized opinion or thought based on the "thread".

Since you have chose to ignore them, then don't post wanting to know what they have to say... We call that trolling.

You read my mind perfectly. Billy alright with me I carry a man card.

Matt · « **Reply #55 on:** December 30, 2008, 08:01:48 AM »

Quote from: Singleshotsam on December 30, 2008, 07:21:52 AM

Billy if you have chose to ignore these two fellows, then please don't post comments based on the fact that you haven't read what they have said.

The idea of a "forum" is to read what everybody has stated then form an organized opinion or thought based on the "thread".

Since you have chose to ignore them, then don't post wanting to know what they have to say... We call that trolling.

You beat me to it... And the same goes for powderman... I am the one who has been deleting your posts bragging that you cant read others posts... total waste of space in the database... SO STOP...

Matt

Matt · « **Reply #56 on:** December 30, 2008, 08:15:21 AM »

Quote from: powderman on December 29, 2008, 02:58:56 PM

TOTENKOPF. I remember the 67 war. Life magazine had pics of thousands of enemy taks just before the battle started. Instead of circling her wagons Israel ATTACKED them all. I believe 7 arab nations fought at once. Those tanks were just twisted hunks of metal in the next pic. Israel went through them all like a hot knife through butter. Still there are those who can't, or WON'T see Gods hand in this. The Godless ones were armed with the best russian equipment money could buy, but the big difference was Gods hand protecting his chosen ones. POWDERMAN.

If God is protecting "his chosen ones" then why the hell is it that the US taxpayer has to foot the bill for their protection... I say we pull out of the ME and let "the chosen ones" and God have at it... If they are what some of you say then they will be just fine and if not then well hell I guess you were wrong... lets find out...

Matt

billy_56081 · « **Reply #57 on:** December 30, 2008, 08:21:04 AM »

Well they say, God works in mysterious ways!

eod20 · « **Reply #58 on:** December 30, 2008, 08:36:32 AM »

the US keeping a leash on Israel is the only reason there still is a conflict if were not for the US stopping them in both 67 & 73 they would own everyting from the Suez to the turkey border with the western half of both Jordan and Syria and with their undeclared but openly known nuclear weapons stockpile NO ONE could do anything about it i agree we should but out and let the Israelis finish this once and for all if Mexico started to rocket us we would bomb the be Jesus out of them until it stopped and not care who was screaming about it what the world has been doing for years is applying a double standard to Israel war is not about being fair you fire 1 rocket i fire 1 rocket it is about winning you fire 1 rocket i bomb a city flat until you stop then you learn not to do it again

billy_56081 · « **Reply #59 on:** December 30, 2008, 08:47:21 AM »

Well said EOD, you sound like a man who has been there, done that. I for one would like to see Israel in control of the whole area. Contrary to what the terrorist sympathisers say, Israel is our only trustable friend in the region.