Lyman Cougar

[john keyes]

are they any good, looks like this place has a bunch for $150

I can find hardly any old info on the net.

about the only thing I found said they were a nightmare to clean...

[Busta]

No personal experience with them, but here is some info. I think they are made by Investarms in Italy. You also might want to find out if these are .50 cal or .54 cal. Not to try and deter you, but if you look around you can get some new old stock Knights and T/C's for the same or less money.

Scroll down to Lyman Cougar.
http://www.hunting-fishing-gear.com/results-reader-reviews/Black%20Powder

[john keyes]

I found somebody on MML saying that you have to fill the hollow stock (that doesn't sound good...LOL) because the edges will jab into your shoulder....

I hear ya Busta, I'm thinking late Jan or so there will be some killer deals popping up.

[Buckskins & Black Powder]

deer creek sells these for $140+ s/h.  Their cateloge has it pictured with a scope and mounts.

[mcgiiver]

I have one and love it. I read the review about the cleaning. Its quite simple to clean as the bolt removes from the rear. Wrench removes breech plug and then clean thru breech. No harder that any other ML of this type. Mine shoots very well. I find it lacks for nothing in quality. At $149 this is a bargain. Very simple design nothing much to go wrong. I find nothing digs into my shoulder as the gun comes with a nice recoil pad. I believe it comes with scope bases. I would say go for it.

[john keyes]

I have one and love it. I read the review about the cleaning. Its quite simple to clean as the bolt removes from the rear. Wrench removes breech plug and then clean thru breech. No harder that any other ML of this type. Mine shoots very well. I find it lacks for nothing in quality. At $149 this is a bargain. Very simple design nothing much to go wrong. I find nothing digs into my shoulder as the gun comes with a nice recoil pad. I believe it comes with scope bases. I would say go for it.

hey thanks, are they 209 or caps?

thanks

[mcgiiver]

They are #11 cap rifles. However, there is room on the striker face for you to change the nipple to a musket cap nipple, and fire them. I personally have never had any trouble with the #11 caps.