Retailer for Black Mag XP?

[carbineman]

I see that it is available from www.magkor.com but way too expensive for my taste. I was thinking of giving it a try in my Sidekick with the 25acp priming system. Anyone use it or the other version Black Mag 3?

[Busta]

MDM (Millinium Designed Muzzleloaders) was marketing Black Mag '3 and the Lightning Loads, but I don't see Black Mag XP.

http://www.mdm-muzzleloaders.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=M&Category_Code=POWDER

[Hammerspur]

Below was my experience with original ARCO Powder BM3 from "MODERN Inline Muzzle Loading Rifles & Shotguns" stickie "Ascorbic Acid Based Powders."

(I couldn't source a way to post a link.)

There is a citrus based powder called Black Mag 3.  According to the NRA tests this is a very powerful powder.  They averaged 2,004 fps with 100 grains of the stuff and a 250 grain SST bullet.   i have never used Goex Pinnacle or Black Mag 3. 

I have used BM 3 with very good results. I bought a quantity when it first appeared around 10 years ago produced by the originator's company "ARCO Powder Co." As clean or maybe even cleaner than smokeless.

Very minimal hygroscopicity... shot an unused load off at the end of a fruitless season, placed my rifle in the back of the closet with intention of cleaning the following day, then forgot about it for several months.

When I did remember I expected to find a horror, but NO. Same light gray ash residue as when first fired.

It is now being manufactured by MagKor ( http://www.magkor.com/index.html ) in partnership with MDM
( http://www.mdm-muzzleloaders.com/ ) but at present the entire supply is being used to make these gimmicks:
http://www.mdm-muzzleloaders.com/NewThunderCharge.html

Loose powder is supposed to be available later this Spring.

[Keith Lewis]

I have had good results with Black Mag'3 in the version a couple of years ago. It was the batch that some clumped in the bottles (before a later change). The powder was the best thing I used at that time. No crud ring like 777 and as good or better performance. I shot some cloverleaf groups at 50 yards and a couple of three shot 1 inch groups at 100 with the powder. Main problem was availability. The price is still too high for my taste as is BH209. I did not have any ignition problems like BH209 is having. If it was available at my local dealer I would probably buy it. Doc White at White Rifles claimed he was using it for his prefered powder when accurizing his rifles. I am not a fan of the solid version although I have not tried any of it yet.