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Offline Idlechater

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Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« on: December 29, 2008, 06:19:29 AM »
Gentlemen and Ladies:

I instruct hunter safety in Washington State.  As a component of my class, I like to introduce the students to unique types of ammunition.  To do this, I pass around examples of the ammunition.  I am asking that if any of you reload unique calibers that you send two "dummy rounds" to me.  I would happily pay any shipping charges that you incurr.  I would like the case to be empty and primer-less and the ball seated.

Here is a list of calibers that I currently have:

25-06
7mm-08
30-30
30-06
7x57
45-70
223 Remington
243 Winchester
308 Winchester
6.5x55
6.8mm Remington
22-250
222 Remington
204 Ruger
260 Remington
30 Carbine
44-40 Winchester
32-20 Winchester
38 Special
41 Remington Mag
357 Mag
44 Mag
45 Win Mag
45 Colt
380 Auto

If you have any other calibers that you could kindly add to my collection, I and my students would be very appreciative.  You can email me at ejb@ecgmc.com if you have questions, or would like me to Paypal you shipping charges.

Thanks.

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2008, 10:01:08 AM »
I can add a few but it may take a few days for me to get on it.

.256 Winchester Magnum (correct headstamp - rare)
7-30 Waters (I think I can scare up one with the correct headstamp)
.30 Herrett (30/30 headstamp)
.357 Herrett (30/30 headstamp)

I'll PM you for an address when I get the dummy rounds made up.

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2008, 03:40:14 PM »
I can get you some 221 Rem.fireball and 357 Rem. Maximum.  PM sent.
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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2008, 04:18:57 PM »
#1
How about a 30-30 made from 375 win
I wish I had a unformed 375 win so you could
show before and after but I do not.

#2 how about a 6mm -06

#3how about 35 whelen from 30-06

#4   300 win mag

#5 270 win

#6 7mm rem mag

#7 45 auto

#8 32 auto

I think I have some others I could dig up like 30-30 imp
32 rem etc I will have to look.

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 10:02:57 AM »
email sent

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 02:32:13 PM »
Gentlemen:

You are all FANTASTIC!!!!

Curtis and Kurt: I will take you up on all that you can provide with the correct headstamp.  One of the things that we teach in the class is to look at the headstamp to make sure that the ammunition will fit the firearm.  It will only confuse the students if there is ammunition that is of one type, but headstamped differently.  I understand that there is a learning point here, but our classes are very basic.




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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 04:46:15 PM »
I can send

300 Savage

7.62 x 39mm Russian / Lapua headstamp

7.62 x 54r  Russian / Bulgarian headstamp

7.62 x 25  Tokarev / Romanian headstamp
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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 05:00:16 AM »
Res45:

I really appreciate your offer and I will take you up on it...

Shoot me an email at ejb"at"ecgmc.com and I will send you my address...

Again, I want everyone to know that I am very grateful for your support of my class and the future hunters/shooters...

Have a great New Year...

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 05:19:32 AM »
To update everyone, these are the offers that I have to date:

270 Winchester
45 ACP
221 Fireball
357 R Max.
6.5 Carcano
.303 British
8X56R
7.62X54R
7.62 Nagent Revolver
10MM
7-30 Waters
.220 Swift
458 SOCOM
6.8 SPC
480 Ruger
458 Lott
303 British
7.62 X 54 Russian
300 WSM
270 WSM
300 Win Mag
35 Rem
500 AE
7mm SAUM
300 Savage
7.62 x 39mm Russian
7.62 x 54r  Russian
7.62 x 25  Tokarev
9mm
50 BMG
.257 Roberts
.284 Win
9.6x62
.458 Win
450 Ackley

If you reload something not listed here or in my original post and would like to help out, I would very much appreciate it.  These are going to be a wonderful addition to my class curriculum and will really demonstrate what a wonderfully diverse world of shooting there is.

Thanks.

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 07:57:27 AM »
I can send a couple of 375H&H

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2009, 01:12:54 PM »
I can send .22 Hornet, .22 K Hornet, and .30-30 Ackley. BTY, I am a Hunter Ed instructor in Tennessee.

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Building dummies without loading dies
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2009, 02:35:42 PM »
Building dummies without loading dies.

Something I learned through trial and error.

Super Glue is too brittle.

Clean brass.  Sizing brass is not necessary for rounds not intended to be chambered in a firearm.

For Boxer primed cases.  Use a socket as a base. Use a thin steel punch and punch out the fired primer.  Lee makes a nice tools for .22 and 30 caliber cases.  Berdan primers must be drilled out, unless you have a way to force the primer out hydraulically.

With the help of a matchstick or toothpick, smear RTV-any color- inside the case neck.

Insert an appropriate projectile into the case neck to the proper depth, rotating to obtain even sealant distribution. 

Wipe off excess sealant with a paper towel.

Lay the cartridge down on your work bench, horizontally.  Standing case vertically runs the risk that the bullet will slide into the  case cavity. 

Allow RTV to cure for 24 hours.

Finished demo cartridge.

Note:  Using fired, unsized cases, these may not chamber in your gun.

Note2:  In the interest of domestic tranquility, Don't get RTV on the kitchen table. 

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2009, 05:06:43 AM »
With a dummy round why take the old fired primer out unless you are going to add an eye screw to make a key chain or other such item?

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2009, 05:45:43 AM »
With a dummy round why take the old fired primer out unless you are going to add an eye screw to make a key chain or other such item?

Think about todays litigious society.  Remove the primer and there is no doubt that the round is inert.  Have you ever had a cartridge not fire on the first strike but discharged on the second?  Unfortunately, it has happened in a classroom.  For safety considerations, we can take no chances in the classroom.

The primer pocket can be filled with RTV and then used safely for dry firing.

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2009, 07:09:55 AM »
OK I have used plastic rod to fill the primers to make snap caps but did not think of sending a live round to him.
Hey PM me where and if you want these 375's.

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2009, 09:56:13 AM »
Sorry I have not gotten back to all of you until today.  Was gone for the holiday.

Update time gentlemen:

What I Have:

25-06
7mm-08
30-30
30-06
7x57
45-70
223 Remington
243 Winchester
308 Winchester
6.5x55
6.8mm Remington
22-250
222 Remington
204 Ruger
260 Remington
30 Carbine
44-40 Winchester
32-20 Winchester
38 Special
41 Remington Mag
357 Mag
44 Mag
45 Win Mag
45 Colt
380 Auto


What Has Been Offered:

270 Winchester
45 ACP
221 Fireball
357 R Max.
6.5 Carcano
.303 British
8X56R
7.62X54R
7.62 Nagent Revolver
10MM
7-30 Waters
.220 Swift
458 SOCOM
6.8 SPC
480 Ruger
458 Lott
303 British
7.62 X 54 Russian
300 WSM
270 WSM
300 Win Mag
35 Rem
500 AE
7mm SAUM
300 Savage
7.62 x 39mm Russian
7.62 x 54r Russian
7.62 x 25 Tokarev
9mm
50 BMG
.257 Roberts
.284 Win
9.6x62
.458 Win
450 Ackley
257 Roberts
7.65 Argentine
7.7 Jap
8mm Mauser
32 apc
7mm Rem Mag
375 H&H Mag
22 Hornet
22 K Hornet
30-30 Ackley
44 Rem. Mag

Please email me at ejb"at"ecgmc.com if you have other calibers that you can contribute as deprimed dummy rounds.

I really appreciate all of the support this has gotten!!!!

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2009, 06:45:23 PM »
Hey Gang:

I just want to thank those that have sent dummy cartridges.  They are FANTASTIC.  You guys are great!!!

Thank you very much!

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2009, 05:14:15 AM »
E-mail coming with some oddball stuff .  ;D

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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2009, 01:40:41 PM »
Idlechater,
I was thinking when you get all the cartrages together. Take a few Pics for us and post them. I think it would be a great sight!
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Re: Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2009, 06:03:09 AM »
Gentlemen:

I just want to really thank all of you that have helped me.  The list of cartridges that I now have is impressive.  The kids were all digging through them at last nights class and really enjoyed seeing a lot of cartridges that they have never seen before.

Here is what I now have thanks to all of you!

Rifle Cartridges

   204 Ruger
   221 Remington Fireball
   22 Hornet
   22 Hornet AI
   222 Remington
   223 Remington
   22-250 Remington
   220 Swift
   243 Winchester
   6mm Remington
   243 WSSM
   250 Savage
   250 Savage AI
   257 Roberts
   257 Roberts AI
   25-06 Remington
   260 Remington
   6.5x55 Swedish Mauser
   270 WSM
   7-30 Waters
   7mm-08
   7mm Mauser (7x57)
   280 Whisper
   280 Remington
   7mm Remington Magnum
   7mm Remington Ultra Magnum
   7.62x54
   7.7 Jap
   30 Carbine
   30-30 Winchester
   30-30 Winchester AI
   303 British
   308 Winchester
   300 WSM
   300 Winchester Magnum
   32-20 Winchester
   357 Remington Max
   8x56
   8mm Mauser
   8.8mm Remington SPC
   375 H&H Magnum
   44-40 Winchester
   45-70 Government

Pistol Cartridges
   32 Auto
   380 Auto
   7mm Benchrest
   38 Special
   357 Magnum
   10mm Auto
   40 S&W
   41 Remington Magnum
   44 Magnum
   45 ACP
   45 Winchester Magnum
   50 AE
   500 S&W Magnum

I will try to get a picture of them all and figure out a way to post the picture.

Again, I really appreciate all of the support!