Author Topic: WHAT WOULD AMERICA BE LIKE IF EVERYONE WERE A REPUBLICAN ? (Read 1604 times)

JonnyC · « **on:** December 31, 2008, 02:32:50 AM »

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magooch · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2008, 02:57:44 AM »

Well, if you're talking about the kind of Republican who believes in the Constitution and smaller government, we might not have to worry quite so much about having our guns confiscated. We might be less threatened by our taxes being raised. We probably wouldn't have a halfrican for a President-elect.

On the other hand, there might be a lot of sad saps living in hobo camps in stead of getting some kind of gubmint handout.

Who the heck really knows; I think the people sort of get the government they demand, or that the media demands, so chances are, things wouldn't be a whole lot different.

Dee · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2008, 03:26:13 AM »

Lincoln was a Republican. He ended states rights. Ronald Reagan was a Republican, and he tried "to a point" to restore some of them.
John McCain CLAIMS to be a Republican but isn't. George W. Bush evidently IS, as he was elected as one, but has turned out to be a BIGGER SOCIALIST, than Lincoln OR Roosevelt COMBINED.
There isn't a nickels worth of difference between the Republican and the Democrat as far as D.C. is concerned.
The Republicans voted right along side of Democrats in the Bush backed BAILOUT, and completely IGNORED the American voice which was louder than it has been in years. Bush the Republican again IGNORED the American people in the Auto Bailout.
SO! With that said. Democrat-Republican? There is no difference.
I have always liked the two questions so called CONSERVATIVES ask their candidates before they vote for them. Question # 1 is always: Are you PRO-LIFE, or PRO-CHOICE. The 2nd question is always: Where do you stand on the 2nd Amendment.
The conservative candidate always answers: I am pro-life, and pro-2nd Amendment. The MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION OF ALL, is never asked. What are you going to do about both of these issues if I put you in office with my vote.
Americans don't seem to notice or care that they NEVER do anything about EITHER ISSUE.
WANT PROOF? Bush offered and even ENCOURAGED the House and Senate to Reinstate the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban as a PERMANENT LAW, and ASSURED THEM HE WOULD SIGN IT. Hmmmmmmmm
Bush NEVER, NO NEVER, implemented any kind of movement from the House and Senate to address the stopping of the whole sale slaughter of unborn babies. But then again, neither did anyone else.
Now some here will say I am attacking Bush. I am not. I am merely using him as a business as usual example. I have little use for either party. JMO

nomosendero · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:09:27 AM »

Do you mean if everyone were true Republicans or fake ones ?

Troyboy · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:26:03 AM »

We would have less to talk about. Results would not be much different

BBF · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:00:44 AM »

I would move back.

Seriously, and in random order.
Secure borders, sound fiscal policies, complete change in foreign relation. Re-do all trade agreements. No activist Judges.
Immigration policy returned to privious ethnic quotas and strict enforcement of Visa's The UN house of horrors would NOT be in NY. English the official language, flag burners getting public floggings. No dual citizenships.
I could go on, you get the idea :-))

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2008, 07:00:03 AM »

Reagan won by a landslide both times because he was against abortion, against gun control, against big government. He had a democratic majority congress the whole time. Even after he was shot, he was against gun control and didn't implement any. He was also pro american. He was against illegal immigration, but had to compromise with congress to get anything done. He was able to build up our military to the point it brought down the Soviet Union. He won by uniting Christians who were against abortion and gun control, and fiscal conservative old line republicans and using a lot of common sense. The Republican party can win again, BUT it will have to adopt true conservative values, limited abortion, no gun control, fair trade, not free trade, stop illegal immigration. One of the main reasons for LEGAL immigration is to check for criminals and diseases. America has not been against immigration, but diseases like TB are back and drug gangs don't need to be in the US. Also if children are born to legal or illegal immigrants, they should not automatically become citizens, only if the parents want to. We don't need anchor babies. I did better financially under Reagan than any other president. Clintons so called good economy was only a continuation of the policies the Reagan put in place and he had Newt Gingrich running the congress who was a true conservative to keep him at bay. Without Newt and conservative republicans in power while Bush was in office, the republicans became complacent and very much like democrats. Rino's they were.

Dee · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2008, 07:28:47 AM »

Dixie Dude I would agree with almost everything you said, BUT! The building up of our military which was a good thing, had NOTHING to do with the fall of the Soviet Union.
Our arms, munitions, and money support of the Afghan rebels i.e. the TALIBAN, is what broke the financial back of the Soviet Union. Much like Russia and China are doing to us now.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2008, 03:37:15 PM »

The Soviet Union also spent a lot of money trying to keep up with our technology with the losses in Afghanistan. With the "Star Wars" technology Reagan was spending money on, would have made their entire strategic missile force obsolete. Our battlefield technology also made their weapons obsolete also. Iraq had the latest Soviet equipment in the first gulf war, but our technology made it all obsolete. They could not keep up. Also, Reagan had our economy rebounding while theirs was stagnating in Command Socialism. Their people were hungry, and doing without consumer goods. It wasn't just Afghanistan. We also have NATO helping in Afghanistan now and we have better techniques and are more friendly to their civilians.

Swampman · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2008, 03:41:00 PM »

WHAT WOULD AMERICA BE LIKE IF EVERYONE WERE A REPUBLICAN ?

A much better place.

deerjackie · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2008, 03:51:20 PM »

if they told me tomorrow i had a fully funded election campaign for president i would rather fund my own election campaign for mayor of podunk,ky.i hope the ride ahead is not the last ride for everyone. happy new year. i hope. i pray.

magooch · « **Reply #11 on:** January 01, 2009, 04:06:34 AM »

So how do we get there? One way would be to encourage, or demand that Dumbycrats abort all their babies and themselves.

To tell ya the truth, sometimes having the Dumbycrats in power is the only way that some good things get done. My state has a Dumbycrat Governor and a Dumbycrat majority in the legislature. Like a lot of other states, this one is looking at some very large deficits. The Governor has made some very unpopular budget cuts and the legislature is very likely to go along with it. No Republican Govenor, or legislature would dare make these kinds of cuts.

As it is, the unions that represent state workers are sueing the Governor. So far, she has refused to consider tax increases. We'll see how long she stands her ground, but the previous Democrat Governor did some of the same things and got away with it. He finished his second term and wasn't tarred and feathered and run out of town, but I think there were a lot of teachers who would have liked to slit his throat.

jimster · « **Reply #12 on:** January 01, 2009, 04:46:21 AM »

After thinking about the question for a bit I have decided the word Republican does not mean conservative values anymore. There may have been a time when the majority of the republican party might have leaned toward conservatism, but certainly not lately. So I would have to say the party names do not mean much to me. Far as I'm concerned if everyone called themselves a republican it wouldn't mean much. Look at what they are all voting for lately.

Jim

billy_56081 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 01, 2009, 04:49:22 AM »

I don't know about Republican, but if all the filthy liberal scum were to disappear from our great land, the rest of us would not have to carry their lazy rear ends.

jlchucker · « **Reply #14 on:** January 01, 2009, 04:55:30 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on January 01, 2009, 04:49:22 AM

I don't know about Republican, but if all the filthy liberal scum were to disappear from our great land, the rest of us would not have to carry their lazy rear ends.

I couldn't have said it better myself. You'd end up with a mostly de-populated Kalifornia and People's Socialist Republik of Vermont, though. And that wouldn't be a bad thing, either.

Questor · « **Reply #15 on:** January 01, 2009, 05:56:09 AM »

Sorry to rain on your parade, but the Republicans have just as vivid a history of abusing power as anyone else in this country. It's the opposition of at least two parties that has kept our system healthy until recently, when it utterly collapsed because of Republican attempts at becoming Democrats. We now are in a state of crisis because we no longer have a system of two opposing parties.

Dee · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2009, 03:31:22 AM »

Quote from: Questor on January 01, 2009, 05:56:09 AM

Sorry to rain on your parade, but the Republicans have just as vivid a history of abusing power as anyone else in this country. It's the opposition of at least two parties that has kept our system healthy until recently, when it utterly collapsed because of Republican attempts at becoming Democrats. We now are in a state of crisis because we no longer have a system of two opposing parties.

Exactly!

nomosendero · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2009, 04:54:25 AM »

Quote from: Dee on January 02, 2009, 03:31:22 AM

Quote from: Questor on January 01, 2009, 05:56:09 AM
Sorry to rain on your parade, but the Republicans have just as vivid a history of abusing power as anyone else in this country. It's the opposition of at least two parties that has kept our system healthy until recently, when it utterly collapsed because of Republican attempts at becoming Democrats. We now are in a state of crisis because we no longer have a system of two opposing parties.

Exactly!

Bingo Questor!!!! That's why I asked a question early in this thread which was never answered.

WILDCATT · « **Reply #18 on:** January 04, 2009, 07:54:52 AM »

any one research how people got along before WW2.meaning in the depression.crime was low and there was no welfare.men left their familys to hunt for work.then there was the CCC.and PWA/WPA.which gave us the roads and bridges we still use.there was very little coruption.even Curly the boston mayor after WW2
who had his friend in construction made sure of good quality work.or they never got another job.its welfare
and corruption that got us here and socialism.

JonnyC · « **Reply #19 on:** January 04, 2009, 09:02:48 AM »

I think Social Security is a form of socialism. How many of you against socialism are going to turn down social security when it's your turn so you don't contribute to the socialists? Same for Medicare!!

mirage1988 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 04, 2009, 09:59:08 AM »

How is social security a form of socialism? I pay social security taxes from every paycheck on the premise that I would be getting at least some of that back when I retire. The way i understand socialism is tax everyone that works and give it to those that don't. Oh-I guess I just answered my own question-

JonnyC · « **Reply #21 on:** January 04, 2009, 10:38:40 AM »

One Example- Wives that don't work still get a percentage of their husband's social security amount. Same with children in cerrtain instances.

buffermop · « **Reply #22 on:** January 04, 2009, 11:55:21 AM »

TOTALLY SCREWED!!!

billy_56081 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 04, 2009, 12:25:35 PM »

Quote from: JonnyC on January 04, 2009, 10:38:40 AM

One Example- Wives that don't work still get a percentage of their husband's social security amount. Same with children in certain instances.

How is this any example of anything, unless you are the type that believes that if a wife is a housewife, she is a drain on the family. What you are saying is the income from his job is his income and not their income. I thought that kind of thinking had went out many years ago.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #24 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:14:03 PM »

i would agree that it is time to vote libertaian or constitution party

the democrats are finally gone but the republicans will get even more liberal

DEE can you beleive i said its ok now to vote other than against the democrats

nw_hunter · « **Reply #25 on:** January 09, 2009, 08:22:54 PM »

Quote from: JonnyC on December 31, 2008, 02:32:50 AM

VIEWS WOULD BE APPRECIATED

Republicans still claim to be conservative. Most of us know, this isn't true.
Republicans at the Federal level are socialists! They say they are pro life,for the second amendment, and believe in limited government. Baby's are still being denied the right to life, gun grabbing laws are still on the books, and under Boosh, the Government has grown in leaps and bounds. Our borders are still open, and drugs and illegals still pour in.Our rights have been chipped away during GW's eight years in orifice.(Homeland Security) Gasoline prices soared to new levels under him. Jobs are going away at an alarming rate.

My guess would be, the same as it would be, if we were all Democrat.
After all...........A liberal is still a liberal!

My question would be.......What would America be like if we were all Conservative, not Republican.

magooch · « **Reply #26 on:** January 10, 2009, 03:15:13 AM »

Obviously good points, but everything is relative. Some if not most Republican politicians are too liberal for me, but there must be a heck of a lot of RINOs out there who vote for so-called Republicans, or we never would have had John McGore for a candidate. So I can't really blame the Republican Party completely; there were some pretty good choices when the primaries first got started, but we all know how it went sideways.

Yes, too many Republicans are far too squishy when it comes to being conservative, but compared to Dumbycrats...well, there is no comparison. I'm afraid we are about to find that out.

The only thing that might partially save us is if this Osama character just happens to be more of a pragmatist than a flaming socialist. How's that for wishful thinking?

beerbelly · « **Reply #27 on:** January 10, 2009, 03:29:15 AM »

Over forty years ago I quit the Democratic party because they no longer represented my conservative values. Now I am quiting the Republican party for the same reason. I will be voting independent. Both of my senators, Shelby and Sessions are Conservative, but when I would contact them about doing some thing, they would say we can't get that done because of the liberal Republican senators from the North east. Well if a party has shifted away from my conservative values in order to stay in power then I no longer need them. That is just what happend.
Beerbelly

45-70.gov · « **Reply #28 on:** January 10, 2009, 01:31:47 PM »

Quote from: beerbelly on January 10, 2009, 03:29:15 AM

Over forty years ago I quit the Democratic party because they no longer represented my conservative values. Now I am quiting the Republican party for the same reason. I will be voting independent. Both of my senators, Shelby and Sessions are Conservative, but when I would contact them about doing some thing, they would say we can't get that done because of the liberal Republican senators from the North east. Well if a party has shifted away from my conservative values in order to stay in power then I no longer need them. That is just what happend.
Beerbelly

you no longer matter [voting for the lesser of 2 evils is the best we have any more]

ironglow · « **Reply #29 on:** January 10, 2009, 01:51:02 PM »

I would not want to live in a country which was dominated by ANY single party..be they Republican, Libertarian or some other...not even to mention Democrats.
Marcus Aurelius put it quite succinctly; " POWER CORRUPTS, ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY".