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Offline Shoot!

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« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2003, 12:20:39 PM »
Unfortunately, what Steve357 describes is the truth. The Felsenthal National Wildlife Refuge (NWR, not WMA) in south Arkansas probably holds the greatest concentration of feral hogs in a state whose college mascot is the Razorback. These hogs are many, many generations removed from the slop pen and are as wild as any hog anywhere.  Whether or not their hair is split or if their ancestors were communist I don't know, but they get big and tough, up to 300+lbs with 2+" of gristle plate and 3-4" tushes. I do know some outfitters sell hunts for Russians in fences in MO and MS, so they can make it here. The F&WS advertises hog hunting for this refuge, and since they are not considered game, there is no regulated season in the state. At the same time, the NWR regulations read that hogs may only be hunted during open game season and only with weapons legal for the game that has an open season at that time on the NWR. And since there is only a very limited number of rifle permits allotted to hunt deer for a very short time there, only weapons legal for furbearers, small game and watefowl (shotguns w/ steel shot, rimfires, archery) are what can be used on hogs. I have never taken hog in Felsenthal, but I know many who have. I grew up in the area and have duck hunted there extensively for almost 20 years. My in-laws have taken around a dozen hogs off the refuge, most in the 100-150 lb range, with at least a couple around 250. In addition, they have taken another dozen or so off nearby timber company land their deer lease is on in the same size range. In almost all cases, a Winchester 9422 Magnum was used. Almost all people I know in the area that hunt hogs use a 22 magnum. Is it ideal? No. Does it work? Yes, and surprisingly well I might add. I verified that less than 20% of the hogs I mentioned needed more than a single shot or got more than 40 yards after the first shot and that none were lost. I was told that the hogs taken with the rimfire generally died faster than the couple taken during deer season (off NWR) with a 30-06. I know it doesn't seem to make sense based on paper ballistics and reports of hogs lost to 7mags, and with the school of thought on this board that african rifles are needed for hogs, but it is fact, not theory, and is how it is has been done there for some time. I do know they are rarely, if ever, hunted by men wearing berets :grin:

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« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2003, 05:22:45 AM »
This year I used a .375H&H. Killed a 270-300 lb Russian boar. However, having been there, I realize that such power is not needed over the distances that the kill is likely to take place where I hunt. My hog sightings ran from 10 feet to 400 yards. The game shots offered were at about 50 and 80 yards. I had to pass on the 50 yard shot because of the chance of penetrating through the target and hitting another pig behind it. I took the 80 yard shot. At these ranges I believe the .44 mag 270 grain bullet out of my Ruger Deerfield would be just as effective as the .375H&H, and the Deerfield is about 60% of the weight of the scoped Winchester Model 70. So, next year it is the Ruger Deerfield I will have in my hands on the boar hunt.

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« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2003, 11:27:44 AM »
Zachary,

I'm with you after helping haul two guys out to where the helicopter could get to them to take them to the hospital.  These guys got cut up because they used to small a caliber for the job.  One guy took over 160 stitches in both legs and the other close to 100 in one leg but that leg was also broken.  Thank God their other buddy had a rifle big enough that it got the job done or things could have been worse.  Hog only weighted about 170 lbs. with two inch tucks.  My new black bear/wild hog gun is my Win. M70 in .450 Marlin.  Lawdog
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« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2003, 05:41:04 AM »
I like to use my Browning BLR in 7mm-08. It's very light, very fast handling and light to moderate recoil. It's scoped with a 3x9; so I have, holstered to my hip, a Ruger Redhawk in .44 Mag. I've only had to put my BLR down and use my .44 once. The hog was only 20 yards away, I didn't even try to look through the scope of my rifle.
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« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2003, 05:57:58 AM »
Coug,

   Never hunted wild hogs.  I only have a 270 winchester used for deer hunting.  If loaded w/ premium bullets, would this suffice for hog hunting?  Or would it be better getting an '06?


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« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2003, 01:01:05 PM »
Same problem in AL. Game managers are so worried someone will shoot a deer while hog hunting that they place ridiculous limitations on us. All WMA's in AL only allow approved weapons for what's in season, and that means rimfire or shotguns with no. 4 or smaller during squirrel season. BTW my .22 mag was purchased specifically for hogs on WMA's and despite popular opinion being to the contrary it is enough gun for hogs (and I do mean any size hog) when in the hands of a responsible, capable and relaxed hunter. It is not enough weapon for a charging hog when in the hands of a coward, as poor shot placement at that particular point in time means a quick trip up a tree, bruises and contusions, or possibly the eternal dirt nap. Word to the wise : when restricted by our government to little bitty guns for semi dangerous game learn to shoot very well, learn where to shoot said semi dangerous game so that it will expire immediately, do not take any questionable shots whatsoever and always pick your escape tree before you take the shot. (I have been up that tree only once and while carrying archery tackle, my .22 mag in conjuction with my patience, perseverance and perfect shot placement has never failed in 31 attempts to dispatch the pigs. Largest was 375 lbs. dressed from Oakmulgee WMA).

All that said when I hunt private land for pigs, some of which is in southeast TN and has only eurasian (aka "russian") swine, I carry a marlin guide gun in .444.

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« Reply #66 on: November 06, 2003, 01:15:03 PM »
Coug, I did not read all the postings before I replied or i would have also said nice hog.

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« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2003, 02:38:54 PM »
:grin:
Used the scoped Winchester Model 70 Express in .375H&H last time. Big heavy rifle which was quite a lot to carry around the hilly south eastern Nebraska hills. The hunt was totally stalking, or sneak and peek. Next time it is the Ruger Deerfield, as the longest shots are 80 yards, and the most likely shots are under 50.
Coug-
This Annie seems like quite the girl, cutting the hog's basket off as a trophy?!?!? Is there more to ths story?

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« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2004, 04:39:29 AM »
Good morning men and ladies that may be in attendance...

My choice for hogs...Marlin 336 35 Rem with a Williams Peep Sight...quick to shoulder medium recoil...nice slow heavy bullet equals big hole lots of internal shock...solid 150 yard performer...stalk and shoot...

Ammo...Remington 200 gr Core-Lokt
            Conley Precision 200 gr Hornady FN
            BuffaloBore 220 gr JFN


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