Howlin' Yotes ?

[coyotesbluff]

I was just wondering if anyone here has a situatuion like me.
I howl yotes in evening, just after dark lately I get no response at all , I'll go back in day light and theres
newer yote tracks in the area, whats that tellin me?? Not interested in yackin with me... or am I callin them in from a longer distance and they get there much later than I stay ?
The horse farm I hunt the owner is getting upset because they show up when I'm not around.She says theirs
one cocky one that isn't afraid of people and she says it's very BIG and has a very beautiful coat. It will just walk around in the pasture watching her every once in awhile. Whatcha think I'm doing wrong ? I've
 tried rabbit squeals and same thing, I wonder If they are schooled yotes I'm dealin with.

[billy_56081]

I think howling brings in yotes from as far as 2 miles away. That said, I think I have had more come in silent that have came in talking. I stay on stand 45 minutes to an hour.

[coyotesbluff]

During deer season I ran into one on her property, it really caught me off guard , nature was callin so I left my 30-30 leaning against a tree and after I had just zipped up, I heard what I thought was a deer comin twards me through the thick brush, was now a yote 3ft away from me a little guy probably a year old
and not knowing any better stood looking at me and smelling at me for about ah 5-6 seconds and carried on his way, I looked at the gun about 10 ft away from me and knew I didn't have a chance in hell of reachin it, didn't really want to use such a caliber on um anyway too pretty to ruin, but It was kinda comical
to watch that close of an encounter.

[coyotesbluff]

Another thing I wanted to ask people too is....My .22 mag is on back order and won't be in for 3-4 wks.I
would normally use on the farm at night so as not to spook the horses and her family,I sold my last one{wish I never did that}.But for now I'm kinda stuck using a 22 hornet, is this okay for the yotes ? I know it is for fox but I'm not sure about yotes though. It doesn't have too bad a report so I'd use that instead of the .223.
Also I stay on stand for about 2-2-1/2 hrs., I guess I like to see what the wait will bring,I don't call the whole time though, I'll call for about 35min. alittle bit at a time.

[sniper2u00]

I would not recommend a 22mag. for yotes.It will kill one if everything is perfect(shot placement,close range & etc.) But it is marginal and even with a good chest shot with a 22mag a yote could go a long ways before dying.Which means a good chance you would not find it at night or more shots to finish the job! The hornet would be a better choice for close range(0-100yd maybe 150yd) yote work at night if your worried about the rifles report .It has a little more punch than the 22mag.The .223 would be my choice! I bet if you ask the land owner they would not mind the pop of a .223 once and a while at night if it meant a dead yote followed But you might want to check with them and explain a little louder pop means allot better odds of a dead yote. But thats just my 2 cents.

[trotterlg]

The hornet is perfect, a .223 is too much.  Ideal is one of the 17 CF's but you don't have one of those, so the hornet is it.  Howls don't always work, depends on their mood, I hear more howls in the spring/summer, I think the only thing that is consistant is a sound of something they can eat.  If they show up in the day time I would just hang out a little until they walk out into the open, just don't miss, you will never get a second chance.  The hornet is a 100 yard gun, The 22 Mag is a 50 yard gun, so if it is more than that then go bigger.  Larry

[coyotesbluff]

Is there a reasonable priced 17 C.F out there ? Who makes them ? I tell ya I'm hooked on vermint &
predator calibers, don't exactly know why, I guess thats what I spend most of my time doin or dreamin of.
I have one deer rifle and the rest for preds. I don't know if there are other folks out there who are like me,or if it's just me.I don't even fully understand ballistics of the calibers, but I know if they knock down
preds, I already like it. As long as it's not destroying the pelt. The 17 HMR I do not own, because I have read it's too light and wind will be the deciding factor on where it hits, so I've veered from that purchase.
What about the .243 ? Too heavy ? Or is there a good grain that won't damage pelts ?

[buckshooter]

A 243 is a good caliber.  What is your range? If I were you, and I was buying it for predator or varmint I would buy a 22-250.  A 22-250 is very accurate out to 300, 400, and 500 yards.  The best thing about a 22-250 is that if you wanted to hunt elk or deer, you could use it.  That is what I would purchase if I were you. 

Hope this helps

buckshooter   

[coyotesbluff]

Hey buckshooter
I did have one but let it go,very good shooter though, My ranges vary , my night spots are between the
3-500 yd range,but my favorite spot for night is right behind the owners house & near the horse barn.The yotes seem to favor that spot at night. The owner breeds thourough bred horses & she can be pretty finicky about them being spooked. My other spot is across the street from her in a huge corn lot but they
don't seem to be there too often.

[petemi]

A 243 is a good caliber.  What is your range? If I were you, and I was buying it for predator or varmint I would buy a 22-250.  A 22-250 is very accurate out to 300, 400, and 500 yards.  The best thing about a 22-250 is that if you wanted to hunt elk or deer, you could use it.  That is what I would purchase if I were you. 

Hope this helps

buckshooter  

I use my .22-250 on everything up to coyotes.  I have better deer rifles.  I would never dream of trying to take an elk with it.  I think it would be a very unethical thing to try.

When I first got my horses, they would stampede to the far end of their pasture every time I shot.  Now, after quite a bit of shooting, they don't even stop grazing when a gun goes off.  I can shoot off their backs.  I started off with a .22LR and worked them right through the '06 and .45-70.  Just like training a young gun dog.  My horses are Quarter Horse and Appaloosas and are not as spooky as Thouroughbreds usually are.

Pete

[hillbill]

yotes are pretty predictable if they havent been hunted much.if yu see a certain yote crossing a certain field at 630 in the morn he may be there at the same time 3 out of the nex 5 days.now once he gits a good wiff of yu it may change fer awhile.howl calls when done right are mostly jus locaters from what i know. once yu locate a yote stalk a lil closer and then bring them in with a regular varmint call.my best  caliber for huntin yotes seems to be whatever i have handy. althougth 243 or 223 has always been my fav.

[colocowboy76]

I have had coyotes come to many diffrent calls.  One of the best one I have used lately is a puppy whine from a primos ecall.

[Rancher]

Either the coyotes have been called and educated or the sound isn't quite right.  Might try a bird sound or a fawn bleat sound.  Those seem to work around here mainly because most everyone else uses a rabbit sound.  Bird calls are hard for me to make using a mouth call.  A cheap Johnny Stewart preymaster works and doesn't break the bank.  Not the best caller going, but it works.

[Ponydog]

I have had dry runs lately myself on recent coyote hunts.   I have gone to the same place twice in the last month.....I have used the wind to come in from different access points to the area.......I have used jackrabbbit calls, and cotton-tail calls.......guess I need to let that area lay for a bit, and find a bird call, or fawn bleat......or some other type of distress, woodpecker etc........tracks and sign everywhere..........small tracks and larger ones.....I have never seen wild or domestic dogs in the area......there are deer, and lots of ducks....I have seen bald eagles as well, with tons of red tailed hawks.........so there is competition for the critters that are there......and there must be alot to support that many raptors......maybe I need to change the time I go, ( it has been around daylight am ) ......I park my truck over a mile and a half away....walk in queit as possible.....use tree lines and cover to get in....what am I doing wrong???

[Glanceblamm]

Good read & lots of good advice...when it gets (lean) I will pay much more attention to the Major & Minor feeding periods as said by the Solunar Tables as they really do seem to help on the average sucess rates.