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black power home gun
« on: January 07, 2009, 06:56:09 AM »
i have a black power 44cal hand gun i have been using on the range. Could i use this gun for home Defense? it's a 6 shooter so could i just keep 5 in there loaded and have the hammer on a empty?
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2009, 07:00:44 AM »
I did that for years.  Never had to use it, but felt secure in the knowledge that a .44 round ball was just as capable of penetrating human-hide nowadays as it was in the 1860's.  Think of the damage possibilities--a soft lead ball that flattens as it hits and shatters bone; the grease used to lube the charge, together with black powder crud to cause infection; and if the assailant was close enough, the flame jumping out of the end of the barrel would burn him!  Seems pretty effective to me--just make the first shot a good one.

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2009, 07:52:19 AM »
If you can use a flamethrower for self-defense, then you can definitly use a blackpowder 44. ;D

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 10:27:59 AM »
Jamal - you live in Florida as do I.  I kept a 44 cal BP revolver in my nightstand for three years and felt very confidant with it.  I used to shoot Cowboy Action during that time and was comfortable with this revolver.  one thing I did do was practice with it every week and clean it afterwards.   This way I always had fresh powder in the cylinders.   I never had any misfires from the previous weeks loads.  I did have one that I kept in the safe for two years and when I went to fire it I got misfires on 4 of the 5 chambers......humidity of Florida!   

Wild Bill Hickock used a pair of BP Colts with deadly accuracy during his time.  He fired them and cleaned them every day to practice and keep the powder fresh. 

I don't keep these any more because there are more reliable systems available that will do more damage.
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 12:45:54 AM »
If you can use a flamethrower for self-defense, then you can definitly use a blackpowder 44. ;D

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 12:53:06 AM »
I think that the load deteriorating is the main concern.
Other than that concern, I wouldn't have a concern.
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2009, 11:34:22 AM »
thanks for all the help guys. now i have to do is get better with it.
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2009, 12:44:29 PM »
Wild Bill Hitchcock would reload his colt 36 revolvers every morning.  He was worried about moisture getting into his cylinder over the night and fouling his powder.
Depending on the model of revolver (both my Colt 1860 and the Remington 58 have them)there are notches inbetween the nipples for the hammer to rest and it can be stored with all 6 loaded.  You may want to load the gun on a bright sunny day and stick it in a Zip loc bag and then in the night stand.  Remember Wild Bill.  He was in the dry west and you live in a rain forrest where 90% humidty is the norm.
Do you know how to unload a revolver so you can them take it to the range with out getting into the car with a fully loaded handgun?

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2009, 02:13:22 PM »
now i have to do is get better with it.

Uh, Jamal my young friend... weren't you just talking about being worried you'd get evicted for having a gun in yo gub'ment housing if you got one?   ???  Seems like you had wun after all...  ;)
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 11:11:01 AM »
now i have to do is get better with it.

Uh, Jamal my young friend... weren't you just talking about being worried you'd get evicted for having a gun in yo gub'ment housing if you got one?   ???  Seems like you had wun after all...  ;)

black power guns are not recorded by the govermont and so there no list they can look up to see who has one. ;D
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 11:28:59 AM »
But if you use it they will know.

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 12:52:35 PM »
Who was it who used their blackpowder revolver to defend his home from unannounced visitors?  I want to  say Jason Ballou, only problem was the visitors were a drug task force used a search warrent at the wrong address. 
result Jason shot in the head after his wife , who was nude when door was kicked in, screamed and he picked up a muzzle loading revolver and stepped out into his living room.
Sorry if  I went into old history.  Black powder works just fine,  just beware of cops with search warrents.

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 05:05:41 PM »
My stock broker has a term - "keep your poowder dry".  What he means is hold on to some cash, don't risk it all.  I think the phrase could also apply to a BP revolver.  Keep your powder dry.  Don't think I would want to trust my life to a BP ignition pistol.  To each his own, but a BP pistol hardly qualifies as a life or death device.  It is best for recreational uses and reinactments, etc.  Hell, get a boom-a-rang.

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 05:14:49 PM »
Who was it who used their blackpowder revolver to defend his home from unannounced visitors?  I want to  say Jason Ballou, only problem was the visitors were a drug task force used a search warrent at the wrong address. 
result Jason shot in the head after his wife , who was nude when door was kicked in, screamed and he picked up a muzzle loading revolver and stepped out into his living room.
Sorry if  I went into old history.  Black powder works just fine,  just beware of cops with search warrents.



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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 05:17:16 PM »
now i have to do is get better with it.

Uh, Jamal my young friend... weren't you just talking about being worried you'd get evicted for having a gun in yo gub'ment housing if you got one?   ???  Seems like you had wun after all...  ;)

black power guns are not recorded by the govermont and so there no list they can look up to see who has one. ;D

the government doesn't record any gun i know  of  in florida     only  the dealer   
or  a stolen gun or  one  found at  a crime and  traced
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2009, 06:06:51 PM »
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2009, 06:08:37 PM »
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To each his own, but a BP pistol hardly qualifies as a life or death device.

A lot of history that says you're wrong.
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2009, 09:59:48 AM »
now i have to do is get better with it.

Uh, Jamal my young friend... weren't you just talking about being worried you'd get evicted for having a gun in yo gub'ment housing if you got one?   ???  Seems like you had wun after all...  ;)

black power guns are not recorded by the government and so there no list they can look up to see who has one. ;D

the government doesn't record any gun i know of in Florida   only the dealer  
OR a stolen gun OR one found At a crime and traced


i have hear that about Florida , but there both a list for people that have CWP and guns and it used to be public up to 06 i think. I know this because fox 13 news had a story about why is not this " valuable info" public any more ::)

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2009, 01:15:49 PM »



the government doesn't record any gun i know of in Florida   only the dealer 
OR a stolen gun OR one found At a crime and traced



i have hear that about Florida , but there both a list for people that have CWP and guns and it used to be public up to 06 i think. I know this because fox 13 news had a story about why is not this " valuable info" public any more
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   i  am  a gun dealer  in  Florida  for  28  years

i  have  never given any  of my customers  info  to law  enforcement
with  regards to  the weapon  just a back ground check  [and  one  weopon trace]
this  info  is supposed to be destroyed  [beleive  it  if  you like]

read statute 790 of the Florida statute
separate fact  from fiction

take a concealed  carry class  they  will  give  you a book  [maybe]

i  think you should  just  do  it  and  sue them  for  discrimination  if they kick   you  out
the  2ND amendment  is pretty  clear
i  think  these  rules  are  a bluff  just to  make  you keep a low profile

you  don't  need  to live in a place  like  that  any  way
it  is not good  to surround  yourself with  the entitlement mentality   that  thrives  in  those places
they  have those  rules  because it  is inhabited by people that can't earn a living
[i know some  have legitimate  reasons for beeing there but  mostly  i think  you will  agree]
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2009, 07:01:49 PM »
 Why would you want to use a BP revolver over a modern handgun? Do you have a felony conviction and cannot legally possess a modern gun?

 If you're worried about regulations (and not laws) where you live, it won't make a difference if you're caught with one or the other, will it?
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2009, 07:20:27 PM »
You'll shoot your eye out kid!   ::)

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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2009, 03:18:03 AM »
Wouldn't it be interesting and enlightening to know the REAL STORY behind some folks on this site.  :o ::)


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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2009, 03:49:45 AM »
love my blackpowder; shotguns ,rifles ,pistols,revolverss, flint and cap.  having said that ill take a modern pump shotgun every time.  handgun are to defend you while you get to your long gun.  ill not trust blackpowder
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2009, 05:42:10 AM »
if  one   of your crack head  neighbors  break  in  and steal  your muzzle loader  revolver
they  will  go  CRAZY  trying  to find  your bullets
giving the police  time  to capture  them

better  yet   leave  out some  real  bullets  and hide a camera
so  you can  post  them  on  YOUTUBE  trying to  load  it
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2009, 05:45:07 AM »
Wouldn't it be interesting and enlightening to know the REAL STORY behind some folks on this site.  :o ::)

I'm sure it looks something like this:


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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2009, 05:54:29 AM »
Wouldn't it be interesting and enlightening to know the REAL STORY behind some folks on this site.  :o ::)

I'm sure it looks something like this:




it  needs  a caption...like.........''.YOU  TRY  TO  LOAD  IT  YOUR SO SMART''
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2009, 12:05:37 PM »
the only reason I would see not to use one is that you will
not be able to apply a quick follow up shot due to obscuring
you target with smoke. power is perfectly adequate, accuracy
is reasonable. Properly loaded they go bang every time.
A sheriff's model in 44 caliber is still a formidable weapon,
and dang if I would try to rob someone armed with one.
I sure would not feel helpless if armed with one either.
Not the best choice for defence, but by no means a bad choice
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Re: black power home gun
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2009, 12:42:21 PM »
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Why would you want to use a BP revolver over a modern handgun? Do you have a felony conviction and cannot legally possess a modern gun?

I can think of at least two reasons.  First, if he is at least eighteen years old, but not yet twenty-one years old, he can legally own a BP revolver, but not a modern handgun.  Secondly, if he already owns a BP revolver, but doesn't own a modern handgun.  Two very good reasons right there.
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2009, 03:00:17 PM »
I'd bet you $10 dollars that he owns neither.

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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2009, 04:13:03 PM »
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I'd bet you $10 dollars that he owns neither.

I try to avoid sucker bets.   ;)
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