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Notched jackets
« on: January 10, 2009, 01:09:42 PM »
I am making 358 caliber bullets using copper tubing. I was wondering if anyone has come up with a way to notch the mouth of the jacket to make the bullet expand a little quicker on impact?

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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 09:18:34 AM »
Depends on how much tooling you have. It can be done on a lathe with a carbide bit set 45deg and the jacket locked in position (not turning). In a mill the same way (bit not turning). Mount a dremmel with a tiny carbide ball mill in an arbor type setup. etc...
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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2009, 01:29:16 PM »
Corbin makes a SDD-1-S jacket serrate/draw die for that job.
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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 02:25:08 PM »
Reed1911, I don't have a lot of tooling. I do have a dremel tool, but not a good way to hold the jacket that I can think of. Any ideas?


LeadPot, I have looked at Corbin's SDD-1-S and SDD-2-S. I like the second one better because you can control how far down the jacket you serrate it. I just can't spend the $250 - $300 to do that. It would be nice to build one though.

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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2009, 07:18:37 PM »
Well if you dont have the tooling it would be a little harder to make a tool.
This might put a idea in your head.
Use a inexpensive Lee bullet lube size die and make your own draw die and serrating tool

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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 11:37:23 PM »
Well, you can use a collet which would be best, if you don't have one and don't care to buy or make one I'd think that dental adhesive may do the trick. For a cheap collet system, most economy tool places sell the alumiunim jaws for vices, if you get a thick enough set and drill the proper sized hole you should be able to use that as a split ring fixture. Slow I know but it would allow you to make a few and see how they do.
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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 05:01:49 AM »
Yes a collet bullet puller would work, then all you need is the Lee sizing die ram and use an old wood chisel and put a few burs on the punch end and run it in the jacket that held by the collet.

But it's a lot less work yo just use a thin jacket and expose a little more lead and hollow point it.
All the expansion you need.

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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 06:21:45 AM »
Good idea, I never thought about the bullet puller, ready made collet for you right there.
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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 07:27:28 AM »
Aaaaaaaa so; now the light bulbs are turning on ;D ;D

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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2009, 07:35:50 AM »
I have a full shop and compliment of more tools than I can list, but I like to think simple and easy for the guys out there with ideas they want to try and easy ways to do them. Better than poo-poo'ing the idea or telling to to go spend 1000.00 in tooling to do it right.
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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2009, 08:43:43 AM »
My Sheldon Lathe and mill gets used more for gun related things then anything else.
But I agree with you Reed
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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 05:05:00 PM »
Thanks guys! I have to do some shopping and see what I can put together.

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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 09:04:07 AM »
Reed1911, I don't have a lot of tooling. I do have a dremel tool, but not a good way to hold the jacket that I can think of. Any ideas?


LeadPot, I have looked at Corbin's SDD-1-S and SDD-2-S. I like the second one better because you can control how far down the jacket you serrate it. I just can't spend the $250 - $300 to do that. It would be nice to build one though.

I got one from RCE a few years ago in .308 it works very well. It is for sale also. $100   Mike

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Re: Notched jackets
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 11:30:53 AM »
I dont have any need for one.
I have a complete set of dies for the .308 rebated bt.
Put it up in the sell & swap maybe some one will trade with you.
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