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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2009, 12:56:31 PM »
Anyone know what range I can expect out of the Swivel?   The Nevada Desert is my backdrop , but Im very curious.


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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2009, 01:09:07 PM »
Depends on what you use as a projectile.  A golf ball probably won't go more than a few hundred yards.  A lead one pound sinker could go 600 yards.  Also depends on how much powder you use.
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2009, 02:04:14 PM »
Dom,

what about calling it a fortress mount or ships mount,  there were many pre 1899 cannon with cone mounts......
 




I'm not sure about the recoil system barrel on a pre 1899 cone mount.  They did have the Hotchkiss revolving cannon on the naval cone mount though.


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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2009, 01:02:24 PM »
Work started on Mount & Tripod.  Assembly Pictures next week hopefully!

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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2009, 11:39:10 AM »
DONE!
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2009, 11:39:47 AM »
Oh & the Tripod!
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2009, 01:00:00 PM »



 I like it! I think I need one for the Las Vegas drivers....  :D  :D  :D
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2009, 02:35:51 PM »
Something you might add is a foot that contacts the ground to lessen the forces on everything else.
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2009, 05:16:30 PM »
Something you might add is a foot that contacts the ground to lessen the forces on everything else.

But that would make it tough for the rear-gunner to use it while speeding along!   ;D
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2009, 05:59:57 PM »
I meant something that would unscrew like an elevation screw.   ;D

Like maybe this:


or this:
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2009, 06:05:31 PM »


I like it but you need to install a safety harness and a little floor on it so you don't louse your tail gunner ;D


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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2009, 12:55:11 AM »
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2009, 08:29:11 AM »
Samurai5, that's an original idea; that should be great (and convenient) for firing in the desert, I like it.
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2009, 10:49:00 AM »
Mad Max would be proud!

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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2009, 11:19:41 AM »
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I like it but you need to install a safety harness and a little floor on it so you don't louse your tail gunner

How pediculous that would be!

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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2009, 11:55:56 AM »
Where's the foot trigger?  ;D ::)
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2009, 12:06:31 PM »
As for the hitch mount...... I'm guessing you are not married or your wife never rides in your vehicle.........

I myself like the smell of burnt sulfur but most wives find the lingering odor

a problem as the two of you are riding down the road........


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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2009, 12:24:24 PM »
How pediculous that would be!

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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2009, 01:55:46 PM »
hehehe Its a toyota 4 Runner.  :)  ill post a few more picts later.  :)
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2009, 07:13:17 AM »
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2009, 07:14:03 AM »
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2009, 01:50:43 PM »
Great job! Gives a person a couple of ideas! Removable legs on the tripod, right? Easy to store and carry that way, and the mount on the trailor hitch can be transfered to any standard trailor hitch mount. I like it! An enterprising person could make a few for friends, have a "Tail Gate Party" BoomLover
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2009, 02:52:20 PM »
HEHEHEHEHE.  Yes Legs are removable & the whole thing is pretty light (For man packing that thing up a hill).  The legs have tack welds to keep the legs from moving too far up the center piece.   ;)
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2009, 02:21:22 AM »

I'd like to be able to fire my G.B. carronade (on a naval carriage) from inside my hatchback Picasso, with the hatch open.......the problem is - The flash from the vent would probably blow my glass roof out.


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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2009, 10:12:37 AM »

I'd like to be able to fire my G.B. carronade (on a naval carriage) from inside my hatchback Picasso, with the hatch open.......the problem is - The flash from the vent would probably blow my glass roof out.


 "Those who ride in glass cars should not throw (nor shoot) golf balls"  ;D

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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2009, 12:03:21 PM »
Well, after all, blackpowder was at one time an 'ancient Chinese secret'!   ;D
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2009, 02:31:02 AM »
Anyone know what range I can expect out of the Swivel?   The Nevada Desert is my backdrop , but Im very curious.

 Your mounts are really nifty. I like 'em. However, to be honest, I think they may be a little lightly constructed for use with your barrel and a lead ball. I'd be a little more concerned about recoil than range at this point.

 I see you have a lanyard lock on your bbl. If you're gonna be yanking that while holding onto the tiller with the other hand with a lead ball loaded, you're a braver man than I. You might look into adding a more substantial grip.

 I'd start with a golf ball and ~100 grains of FG, then heavier charges until you get a feel for what it does before trying a heavier ball. Another member here has found a source for steel balls to fit a golf ball bore. I'd try those before lead (Personally, I would never even try lead on either of your mounts unless I fixed the bbl so it couldn't swivel, and fired them with a fuse or long lanyard).

 I'd add some kind of a vent sheild if I were holding the tiller when it goes off. Have a look at a few pictures of what comes out of the vent on a cannon that large.

 The above is JMHO. I'm not one to poop on anyone's party, but I want all of us to stay safe.
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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2009, 06:11:34 AM »
WOW ., Looking good Samurai5. You'll have to give us a field report.

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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2009, 12:06:25 PM »
Anyone know what range I can expect out of the Swivel?   The Nevada Desert is my backdrop , but Im very curious.
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I have a Napoleon of 1-7/8 bore.  The fellow I bought it from fired it with a lead sphere over a mile - MEASURED.  Not a clue as to charge, safe or not.



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Re: Swivel Gun
« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2009, 04:57:42 PM »
Well Both Ranges I usually shoot at will not allow me to fire my Cannon on their range   >:(  ......Im off to the desert in the coming weeks.
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