Author Topic: Plated Bullets in a Glock? (Read 3403 times)

TwoSeventy · « **on:** January 16, 2009, 07:22:10 AM »

I've heard that you should not shoot lead bullets in a Glock due to the rifling, but what about plated bullets.

I've seen the plated bullets in large quantities a reasonable prices and thought they would be good range fodder.

Any experiences or suggestions would be appreciated.

Savage · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2009, 08:50:47 AM »

I have put a few thousand thru a Glock 21 without issue. Shortly after that I bought an aftermarket barrel and shot nothing but lead thru it for IDPA and plinking. For around a hundred bucks you can replace the barrel with an aftermarket and shoot whatever you want.
Savage

federali · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:21:11 AM »

I've been using plated bullets in a stock G19, G26 and a G34 without incident. I see absolutely no difference in fouling between plated and jacketed bullets.

SAWgunner · « **Reply #3 on:** April 01, 2009, 03:51:38 PM »

Yes, sir. I use plated bullets in all of my Glocks. Remember that the vaunted Gold Dot is nothing more than a plated bullet, and is my favorite for my 10mm Glocks.

Waldo Pepper · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2009, 10:50:51 AM »

The Glock manual does not say to not use lead bullets, it says no reloads allowed is all. Polygonal rifle and pistol barrels have been in use for half a century and are used in several 22 caliber rimfire rifles and H&K pistols also. There is less lead fouling and build up of lead in polygonal barrels then standard rifling. I have shot enough lead through a G29 to be quite sure it is no problem.

Old Griz · « **Reply #5 on:** July 06, 2009, 11:08:32 AM »

I shot lead in mine for years before I found out I wasn't supposed to. I never had a problem, but then, I always cleaned my gun well after each range session. I don't think it really becomes a problem unless you're one of those guys that only cleans his guns every 30,000 rounds whether it needs it or not. Then the build up might get kinda serious. The warning is a CYA for Glock for those folks is my guess.

Cottonwood · « **Reply #6 on:** July 06, 2009, 04:12:43 PM »

In the Glock handbook #26 in RED it states: Only use high quality commercially manufactured ammunition, in excellent condition and in the caliber of your pistol. Glock does not recommend the use of unjacketed lead ammunition.

Now you do what you want, but I would rather use the lead with an after market barrel.

Dee · « **Reply #7 on:** July 06, 2009, 04:39:11 PM »

Montanan Smith and Wesson, Colt, Ruger and a myraid of others have been posting that warning for over thirty years. It is CYA on their part. I have seen as a range master for 20 years THOUSANDS of reloaded lead bullets fired thru police service Glocks. I am a Glock armorer, certified BY GLOCK, and have fired a Glock 17 that had over 300,000 rounds thru the barrel and slide. SOME WERE LEAD. The tenfer finish on the barrel and slide is far harder than anything American gun manufacturers make, and it will NEVER wear out. It I believe is on a Rockwell hardness scale 1 point under a diamond. If the EPA ever allows it into the U.S. it will change gun manufacturing here forever.
That 300,000 thousand round Glock by the way was furnished by Glock at an armorer school, and had been at that time thru 3 receivers and numerous triggers. At that time the receivers were about $37.00 each. You could shoot it all you wanted, and Glock would furnish the ammo, and document the rounds found. It was truly amazing.

kiddekop · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2009, 07:42:09 AM »

I had a former usmc armorer employed as a police officer tell me not to use lead ammo in my sig sauer p 220 so I've followed his directions to the letter.I fire reloaded lead ammo in my 1991A1 Colt gov't.

Savage · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2009, 08:02:57 AM »

All my personal Glocks have aftermarket barrels. These are the only Glocks I've fired lead bullets thru. Have launched a bunch thru my Sig 220s as well as all the other pistols I own. Haven't shot a reloaded jacketed or plated bullet thru any of my pistols in a lot of years. I have found the "Lewis Lead Remover" to be a necessary tool. Especially when developing loads and selecting bullets.
Savage

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2009, 08:10:12 AM »

When working as a safety officer at Glock matches The guy checking guns at the safety table told a guy that lead was not reconended because of feed problems with soft lead bullets . Being a self defense gun that made sense . Ain't that why most auto bullets are jacketed ?

Savage · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2009, 08:32:28 AM »

I carry jacketed HPs for business, and lead for competition. Not because of feeding problems, but because of terminal performance of the jacketed, and cost of the lead.
Savage

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2009, 08:34:37 AM »

That's fantastic !

HAMMERHEAD · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2009, 05:03:22 AM »

My 17L gets a steady diet of Rainier plated 130 grain, .356" .38 Super bullets, but never plain lead.

Dee · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2009, 10:30:56 AM »

Well while you guys worry about lead bullets in your Glock, for the several thousandth time I going to go shoot some more lead bullet with my Glock 21.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2009, 05:43:00 AM »

Dee didn't the Glock 21 have different rifling ? Seems they did not have poly.

Old Griz · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2009, 06:39:37 AM »

All are poly as far as I know when they come from Glock. My 21 sure is.

Cottonwood · « **Reply #17 on:** July 10, 2009, 07:00:28 AM »

Dee good feed back from ya there, I was just passing on what is in the booklet that comes with our Glocks. Speaking of Glock Armorers I have been wanting to take that course. Just something tells me that I am going to be adding some more to what I already got, so it would be nice to take and get all the good knowledge I can get.

PM me so we don't hijack this thread.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2009, 07:06:46 AM »

I took the class years ago and it was worth the effort . I had thought but could not remember something about the first in 45 ACP having a different rifling . All i have do have the poly .

Savage · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2009, 03:25:33 PM »

Don't know if it makes any difference but the .45 Glocks have what Glock describes as "Octagonal" riffling. For whatever that's worth. The Glock Armorer's course is a fun way to spend the day and pick up some promotional items. It's really heavy on the use of only genuine Glock parts! God knows those cursed aftermarket parts aren't up to "Glock Perfection" LOL ! In all fairness, they work just fine box stock. It's just that they work sooooo much better with some aftermarket parts. Sorry Gaston!! Now they'll want my Glock Tool back!!!!!! I'm keeping the T shirt and hat!!
Savage

Cottonwood · « **Reply #20 on:** July 11, 2009, 07:11:48 AM »

Well I like the tolerance better in my LWD barrel than I do the OEM barrel, them cartridges just wobble more in the OEM barrel.

But, I really want to take that course.

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #21 on:** July 15, 2009, 08:49:50 AM »

FWIW I have a friend at work who shot IDPA for 2 years with a G21 and never shot anything BUT cast bullets in it. I never shoot soft cast bullets in anything. It could be that makes the difference.

Dee · « **Reply #22 on:** July 15, 2009, 08:58:43 AM »

Quote from: Savage on July 10, 2009, 03:25:33 PM

Don't know if it makes any difference but the .45 Glocks have what Glock describes as "Octagonal" riffling. For whatever that's worth. The Glock Armorer's course is a fun way to spend the day and pick up some promotional items. It's really heavy on the use of only genuine Glock parts! God knows those cursed aftermarket parts aren't up to "Glock Perfection" LOL ! In all fairness, they work just fine box stock. It's just that they work sooooo much better with some aftermarket parts. Sorry Gaston!! Now they'll want my Glock Tool back!!!!!! I'm keeping the T shirt and hat!!
Savage

Savage ya definitely don't want to give up that high dollar "Glock Tool"

. I mean that just cannot be replaced.

My hat and t-shirt wore out wore out about 19 years ago. Can I have yours?

ALSO Rustyinfla, soft lead bullets don't feed in ANYTHING AUTO, reliably however, wheel weights are just right to have 100% reliability in a Glock 21, or Glock 23 in 40 caliber, and yes, even the Glock 17s in the diminutive 9mm barn rat caliber.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #23 on:** July 15, 2009, 09:03:39 AM »

Barn Rat cal now that's even better than calling one a back scratcher

Dee · « **Reply #24 on:** July 15, 2009, 09:30:46 AM »

Yea SHOOTALL, I figured I'd get a rise from someone but didn't.

By the way guys, I just got back from running some of those awful "plated lead bullets" thru my Glock 21. Some of those really bad ones. You know the ones. The semi-wad cutters, and those dreaded truncated blunt nosed one. Much to my shock, THEY STILL WORK LIKE A CHARM.

Don't buy'em for YOUR Glocks guys. Saves more for me!

Savage · « **Reply #25 on:** July 15, 2009, 10:09:09 AM »

From my cold dead hands will they get my Glock tool!!! There's absolutely no way to disassemble a Glock without one! The hat and T shirt are in the back of the spare closet somewhere, unworn. I'd better hang on to them as they're sure to become collector's items. They're so few of them out there-------

Montanan,
The armorer's course is ok as long as someone else is paying for it. Otherwise spend the money to stock up on small parts.
Savage

Dee · « **Reply #26 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:35:45 PM »

Only Gaston Glock would call it a "Glock Tool". Everyone else would call it a small punch! I think I will buy some finishing nails, and some plastic rod, and start making some Dee Tools, and sell'em for Glock owners. After market type "Glock Tool".Whaddaya think Savage? Will it sell?

Savage · « **Reply #27 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:34:18 PM »

I'd run the "Dee Tool" idea by a good patent attorney first. A lot of engineering went into the design and development of the "Glock Tool". I suspect they'd sue in a minute for any unauthorized reproduction. But yep, they would likely be a big seller if marketed properly. I might be interested in a piece of that action!!

Savage

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #28 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:57:27 PM »

Yea Dee you could get them on late night TV with that Billy ... no wait that part won't work.

I'd buy one just to be the first on my block to have one.

Keith L · « **Reply #29 on:** July 15, 2009, 07:39:07 PM »

Does the "Dee tool" aid in the dis-assembly and repair of Dee?