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« on: January 22, 2009, 12:45:53 PM »
That fat stupid idiot wants to bring some of those Gitomo prisioners here to Johnstown. And thanks to the stupid idiots that voted for him.
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Re: Thanks alot Murtha
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2009, 12:53:23 PM »
Maybe now they will understand the ramifications of their vote.  I saw that report today.  Unbelievable!

I can imagine we will be seeing a lot of these moves where the administration does something to appease the far left without thinking things through.

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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2009, 01:10:14 PM »
I sure as hell don't want them with in 65 miles of my house. >:( Dale
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2009, 01:19:00 PM »
Sheila where did you read they were going to Johnstown? Here is the information I have found on it so far. Dale

WASHINGTON -President Barack Obama moved quickly Thursday to reshape U.S. national-security policy, ordering the Guantanamo Bay prison camp closed within a year, forbidding the harshest treatment of terror suspects and naming new envoys to the Middle East and Afghanistan-Pakistan. "We have no time to lose," he said at the State Department as he welcomed newly confirmed Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to help him forge what he called "a new era of American leadership" in the world.
He said his administration is committed to lead. "We can no longer afford drift, and we can no longer afford delay, nor can we cede ground to those who seek destruction," he said.
On his second full day in office, Obama moved to reverse some of the most contentious policies of his predecessor, George W. Bush.
By ordering shut the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, closing any remaining CIA secret prisons overseas and banning harsh interrogation practices, Obama said he was signaling that the U.S. would confront global violence without sacrificing "our values and our ideals."
"First, I can say without exception or equivocation that the United States will not torture," he said. "Second, we will close the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and determine how to deal with those who have been held there."
The president and Clinton jointly announced the appointment of former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, a veteran troubleshooter who helped broker peace in Northern Ireland, as special envoy to the Middle East. Former U.N. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, who helped write the peace deal that ended Bosnia's 1992-95 war, was named special envoy for Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Obama said he would aggressively seek a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians while also always defending Israel's "right to defend itself." He called on Israel and Hamas to take steps aimed at ensuring that the cease-fire that's in place in Gaza will endure.
And, citing a "deteriorating situation" in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, Obama said that region is now "the central front" in the battle against terrorism and extremism.
"There, as in the Middle East, we must understand that we cannot deal with our problems in isolation," he said.
Earlier, in signing a series of executive orders in the Oval Office that included closing Guantanamo, Obama said his administration would not "continue with a false choice between our safety and our ideals," a slap at policies pursued by Bush.
The much-maligned U.S. prison camp would be shut down within a year, in keeping with a frequent Obama campaign promise. The administration already has suspended trials for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo for 120 days pending a review of the military tribunals.
Congressional Democrats welcomed the moves.
"President Obama is ushering in a new era of smart, strong and principled national security policies, and Congress stands ready to work with him each step of the way," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, outgoing chairman of the Intelligence Committee.
But there was skeptical questioning from Republicans. House Minority Leader John Boehner was among a group of House Republicans who quickly filed a bill seeking to bar federal courts from ordering Guantanamo detainees to be released into the United States.
Boehner, R-Ohio, said it "would be irresponsible to close this terrorist detainee facility" before "important questions" are resolved. Boehner said these include where will the detainees go when Guantanamo is closed and how will they be secured?
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said such issues would be determined in the coming days.
"Obviously, what started today was a process," Gibbs said.
The president set up a task force that would have 30 days to recommend policies on handling terror suspects who are detained in the future and where Guantanamo detainees should be housed once it has closed.
Obama also signed an order requiring all U.S. personnel to follow the U.S. Army Field Manual while interrogating detainees and told the Justice Department to review the case of Qatar native Ali al-Marri, who is the only enemy combatant currently being held in the U.S.
Separately, retired Adm. Dennis Blair, Obama's pick to oversee the nation's intelligence agencies, told a Senate confirmation hearing that the manual would no longer be called the Army Field Manual but would be renamed "the manual for government interrogations."
Blair told the Senate Intelligence Committee the manual also will be reviewed for possible changes. It now outlines 19 legal techniques and forbids nine.
Blair said he hoped to rebuild trust in the nation's intelligence agencies. These agencies "must respect the privacy and civil liberties of the American people, and they must adhere to the rule of law," he said. As director of national intelligence, Blair will oversee the CIA, National Security Agency and other assorted intelligence units.
U.S. foreign policy in the new administration will be overseen by four former senators — Obama and Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden, who served together until after this year's election, and Mitchell, who served much earlier as Senate majority leader.

AP White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven contributed to this report.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2009, 01:25:58 PM »
Say hello to the members of Barack Obama's new "National Security Force".
Hi NSA! Can you see how many fingers I am holding up?

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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 01:26:56 PM »
Thanks for the report Dale.
It will be interesting to watch things unfold.


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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 01:30:29 PM »
I just found video on local news relating to this. I honestly don't want them here in Pa period. In the video they state there are many prisoners that they can not prosacute but can't release either. Dale

http://www.wpxi.com/video/18542907/index.html
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2009, 01:38:43 PM »
Sheila where did you read they were going to Johnstown? Here is the information I have found on it so far. Dale

WASHINGTON -President Barack Obama moved quickly Thursday to reshape U.S. national-security policy, ordering the Guantanamo Bay prison camp closed within a year, forbidding the harshest treatment of terror suspects and naming new envoys to the Middle East and Afghanistan-Pakistan. "We have no time to lose," he said at the State Department as he welcomed newly confirmed Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to help him forge what he called "a new era of American leadership" in the world.
He said his administration is committed to lead. "We can no longer afford drift, and we can no longer afford delay, nor can we cede ground to those who seek destruction," he said.
On his second full day in office, Obama moved to reverse some of the most contentious policies of his predecessor, George W. Bush.
By ordering shut the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, closing any remaining CIA secret prisons overseas and banning harsh interrogation practices, Obama said he was signaling that the U.S. would confront global violence without sacrificing "our values and our ideals."
"First, I can say without exception or equivocation that the United States will not torture," he said. "Second, we will close the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and determine how to deal with those who have been held there."
The president and Clinton jointly announced the appointment of former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, a veteran troubleshooter who helped broker peace in Northern Ireland, as special envoy to the Middle East. Former U.N. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, who helped write the peace deal that ended Bosnia's 1992-95 war, was named special envoy for Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Obama said he would aggressively seek a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians while also always defending Israel's "right to defend itself." He called on Israel and Hamas to take steps aimed at ensuring that the cease-fire that's in place in Gaza will endure.
And, citing a "deteriorating situation" in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, Obama said that region is now "the central front" in the battle against terrorism and extremism.
"There, as in the Middle East, we must understand that we cannot deal with our problems in isolation," he said.
Earlier, in signing a series of executive orders in the Oval Office that included closing Guantanamo, Obama said his administration would not "continue with a false choice between our safety and our ideals," a slap at policies pursued by Bush.
The much-maligned U.S. prison camp would be shut down within a year, in keeping with a frequent Obama campaign promise. The administration already has suspended trials for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo for 120 days pending a review of the military tribunals.
Congressional Democrats welcomed the moves.
"President Obama is ushering in a new era of smart, strong and principled national security policies, and Congress stands ready to work with him each step of the way," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, outgoing chairman of the Intelligence Committee.
But there was skeptical questioning from Republicans. House Minority Leader John Boehner was among a group of House Republicans who quickly filed a bill seeking to bar federal courts from ordering Guantanamo detainees to be released into the United States.
Boehner, R-Ohio, said it "would be irresponsible to close this terrorist detainee facility" before "important questions" are resolved. Boehner said these include where will the detainees go when Guantanamo is closed and how will they be secured?
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said such issues would be determined in the coming days.
"Obviously, what started today was a process," Gibbs said.
The president set up a task force that would have 30 days to recommend policies on handling terror suspects who are detained in the future and where Guantanamo detainees should be housed once it has closed.
Obama also signed an order requiring all U.S. personnel to follow the U.S. Army Field Manual while interrogating detainees and told the Justice Department to review the case of Qatar native Ali al-Marri, who is the only enemy combatant currently being held in the U.S.
Separately, retired Adm. Dennis Blair, Obama's pick to oversee the nation's intelligence agencies, told a Senate confirmation hearing that the manual would no longer be called the Army Field Manual but would be renamed "the manual for government interrogations."
Blair told the Senate Intelligence Committee the manual also will be reviewed for possible changes. It now outlines 19 legal techniques and forbids nine.
Blair said he hoped to rebuild trust in the nation's intelligence agencies. These agencies "must respect the privacy and civil liberties of the American people, and they must adhere to the rule of law," he said. As director of national intelligence, Blair will oversee the CIA, National Security Agency and other assorted intelligence units.
U.S. foreign policy in the new administration will be overseen by four former senators — Obama and Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden, who served together until after this year's election, and Mitchell, who served much earlier as Senate majority leader.

AP White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven contributed to this report.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2009, 01:47:42 PM »
Maybe now they will understand the ramifications of their vote.  I saw that report today.  Unbelievable!

I can imagine we will be seeing a lot of these moves where the administration does something to appease the far left without thinking things through.

I tried to explain it to some of the ding dongs at work to, I couldn't get it through  their heads. One woman was getting infuriated with me because I was insulting her Messiaha. Its going to take a while for some of these eggs to understand it. Well. I'm going to Gander Mountain tomarrow to buy some ammunition.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2009, 01:52:49 PM »
From what I understand, Alquida goes after the towns that hold their friends prisoner.
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Re: Thanks alot Murtha
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2009, 02:00:22 PM »
From what I understand, Alquida goes after the towns that hold their friends prisoner.



Interesting...
Where did you hear that?


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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2009, 02:27:23 PM »
From what I understand, Alquida goes after the towns that hold their friends prisoner.



Interesting...
Where did you hear that?


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Some one on the newspapers website forum mentioned it. I hope it isn't true, and if it is, Johnstown is doomed.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2009, 02:46:20 PM »
well if they bring them  here  i hope  it  is here  in florida

it  will  be such  a waste  of  money  and  very expensive to have them  here

where  ever  they  end up  in  america

millions  of  federal tax dollars will  be pumped  into the local economy

maybe that  is a way  to  slip  in  more stimulus money

maybe  it  is just a fake
obama sets  them free    ...every one  knows  democrats  are  that stupid
but  they  have  tracking devices surgically implanted  after  they  were beat  unconcious
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2009, 02:49:33 PM »
Sheila, I don't think there is a Federal maximum security prison in Murtha's district.

He was just mouthing off because he knows that there's no chance they would end up in his district anyways.
He makes it sound so harmless because his constituents won't have to deal with it.  
These turds we have in Cuba will probably end up In Levenworth.

I say put them in Alcatraz so Nancy Polosi can look out her window and be sure that they aren't being "tortured".
All the hippies in San Fran-sicko seem to hate Gitmo, so let them deal with the guys there.

or we could put them in with the general population at Huntsville.  I'm sure our lovely Texas murderers in prison here could think of something to do with them  ;)

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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2009, 03:09:11 PM »
That fat stupid idiot wants to bring some of those Gitomo prisioners here to Johnstown. And thanks to the stupid idiots that voted for him.

Sheila, I don't think you or Dale deserve it, but I believe the people up there overall do in fact deserve it & more.
Murtha can say or do whatever he wants & be re-elected & in the case of Obama, he said he would stop the coal production up there, complained of people in some of the rural areas up there clinging to God & guns, said he would take from the productive & give to non-productive & non of it mattered. And next time the people up there will vote Lib again, so maybe the prisoners should be there, works for me.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2009, 03:15:39 PM »
That fat stupid idiot wants to bring some of those Gitomo prisioners here to Johnstown. And thanks to the stupid idiots that voted for him.

Sheila, I don't think you or Dale deserve it, but I believe the people up there overall do in fact deserve it & more.
Murtha can say or do whatever he wants & be re-elected & in the case of Obama, he said he would stop the coal production up there, complained of people in some of the rural areas up there clinging to God & guns, said he would take from the productive & give to non-productive & non of it mattered. And next time the people up there will vote Lib again, so maybe the prisoners should be there, works for me.
How about they build a max security prison next door to you and house them there. Where do you get off telling me we deserve it? Dale
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2009, 03:19:20 PM »
you  don't  realize  they  won't  escape

they  are a cash  cow

the more dangerous they are perceived  the more  money they get to up grade  and guard  these  guys

maybe  they  will  escape  and  get  shot
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2009, 03:30:10 PM »
Send them down to AZ, Joe at his prison. Have a feeling they woundent last long.

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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2009, 03:42:27 PM »
That fat stupid idiot wants to bring some of those Gitomo prisioners here to Johnstown. And thanks to the stupid idiots that voted for him.

Sheila, I don't think you or Dale deserve it, but I believe the people up there overall do in fact deserve it & more.
Murtha can say or do whatever he wants & be re-elected & in the case of Obama, he said he would stop the coal production up there, complained of people in some of the rural areas up there clinging to God & guns, said he would take from the productive & give to non-productive & non of it mattered. And next time the people up there will vote Lib again, so maybe the prisoners should be there, works for me.
How about they build a max security prison next door to you and house them there. Where do you get off telling me we deserve it? Dale

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2009, 03:43:35 PM »
Dale, I don't think he meant it personally. General idea is, if the voting public is that stupid to keep putting an idiot like Mertha back in office, time and time again, it will soon bite them. And yes, some of the locals have already expressed joy, in the fact that this should bring more money to the area. Not sure if there hasn't been one part of the country, at one time or the other, did the same thing. We did it here in Ohio years ago. Kept re-electing a joker by the name Howard Metzenbaum. Most anti-gun congressman there ever was. Between him and Kennedy there wasn't an anti-gun bill they either wrote or sponsored. gypsyman
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2009, 03:50:37 PM »
Correct, I wish Dale had read a little more carefully, but in a hurry I have done the same thing.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2009, 04:16:58 PM »
OK sorry. Dale
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2009, 05:10:10 PM »
Dale, I don't think he meant it personally. General idea is, if the voting public is that stupid to keep putting an idiot like Mertha back in office, time and time again, it will soon bite them. And yes, some of the locals have already expressed joy, in the fact that this should bring more money to the area. Not sure if there hasn't been one part of the country, at one time or the other, did the same thing. We did it here in Ohio years ago. Kept re-electing a joker by the name Howard Metzenbaum. Most anti-gun congressman there ever was. Between him and Kennedy there wasn't an anti-gun bill they either wrote or sponsored. gypsyman

I sure don't know where  are these peoples brains at when they vote for  idiots like him. It already is biting them, they just haven't felt it yet, but the people that didn't vote for him did.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2009, 06:42:17 PM »
We could repatriate them to their countrys of orgin. By this I mean
fly over their country at 10,000 ft in a C-130 and kick them out the
back door with no parachute. Problem solved! ;D

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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2009, 07:35:22 PM »
Well, you people are just a bunch of rednecks and racists. At least that what Murtha says about you.

I wouldn't get all upset about Murtha, I'd be upset about your dumb@ss neighbors who voted for him.

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2009, 07:44:09 PM »
I think Sarah Pallin should step forth and offer to house them in Alaska. As long as the Fed builds a nice comfy facility for them. Find a location miles from anywhere. In the cold of winter, let some escape to become terroristsicles

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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2009, 02:08:29 AM »
Well, you people are just a bunch of rednecks and racists. At least that what Murtha says about you.

I wouldn't get all upset about Murtha, I'd be upset about your dumb@ss neighbors who voted for him.

We are not all racists and rednecks. I am upset that some people here keep voting for him. Its the pork money he is giving to them. He is bribing these knuckleheads.
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2009, 02:13:31 AM »
I think Sarah Pallin should step forth and offer to house them in Alaska. As long as the Fed builds a nice comfy facility for them. Find a location miles from anywhere. In the cold of winter, let some escape to become terroristsicles

She dosn't  want them in her state either. Send them to Hawiie instead. That state has a nice lava lake they can dive into.
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2009, 02:50:04 AM »
On  911 the US was attacked by Saudis commanded by a Saudi.  Bush never told you that he released most ot the Saudi "detainees."  Most of these scumbags were caught in Afghanistan and Iraq while fighting US or allied troops.  Bush bent over to the Saudi king and let them go. 


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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2009, 03:07:55 AM »
I look for them all to be sent back to their own country. Osamas way of sending reinforcements to his beloved muslims. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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