Author Topic: High School Team apologizes for 100-0 win (Read 2836 times)

Land_Owner · « **on:** January 23, 2009, 11:15:18 AM »

High school apologizes for 100-0 blowout
By Jeff Carlton - Associated Press

DALLAS — A high school girls basketball team that beat an opponent 100-0 has a case of blowout remorse.
The winning school now says it wants to do the right thing by seeking a forfeit and apologizing for the margin of victory.

"It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened," the head of the school said Thursday on The Covenant School's Web site. He added that Covenant has made "a formal request to forfeit the game recognizing that a victory without honor is a great loss."

Covenant, a private Christian school in Dallas, defeated Dallas Academy 100-0 last week. Covenant was up 59-0 at halftime.

A parent who attended the game told The Associated Press that Covenant continued to make three-pointers — even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.

"I think the bad judgment was in the full-court press and the three-point shots," said Renee Peloza, whose daughter plays for Dallas Academy. "At some point, they should have backed off."

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons.

There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become lopsided. There is, however, "a golden rule" that should have applied in this contest, said Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school sports in Texas.

Covenant head of school Kyle Queal said school officials met with Dallas Academy officials to apologize and praised the Dallas Academy players for "strength, composure and fortitude in a game in which they clearly emerged the winner."

briarpatch · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2009, 12:23:51 PM »

My thought is that you work a team and prepare it to play at the highest level. This is a competition!
The best team should never have to play down to a bad teams level. The bad team should try to play up to the best teams level. The outcome should not matter. Just do your best.
No matter how you look at it, in the long run the losing team didnot earn any more than what they got.

Spanky · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2009, 12:29:53 PM »

The winning team shouldn't apologize for anything. They played like winners and they won.
The other team should apologize for giving the crowd a lousy show.
It's a competetive sport and the better team won.

Spanky

Brett · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2009, 12:41:02 PM »

My 9 year old daughter started playing rec. league hoops this year. It has not happened in one of our games yet but I have been informed that If the score becomes too lopsided the referees will basically make the girls on the dominating team just stand still on the court while the other team tries to make baskets. It is so ridiculous.

p.s.; My daughter has played soccer since kindergarten but I think she is a more talented basketball player. This is her first season and already her coach is starting to groom her to play point guard.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2009, 12:53:06 PM »

The team that lost should be the one apologizing for their lack of preparation. The liberals in America have been making it shameful to be a success. I see no reason what so ever for the winning team to apologize, and the losing team needs to truly hang there heads in shame. Itis obvious the losers did not take practice time seriously, if they have even practiced

clodbuster · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:01:17 PM »

I am mortified by u guys attitude about this mess. Obviously it was a terrible mismatch about the same as a young boxer getting into the ring with a little old lady. I guess that's just a competitive sport when she gets the crap knocked out of her. The winning coach should have his butt kicked by the ruling athletic association. What did he think he was teaching his players by pulling this stunt? When you get someone down, stomp their guts out. What a good lesson for the girls, after all they are competitive basketball players.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:11:46 PM »

Quote from: clodbuster on January 23, 2009, 01:01:17 PM

I am mortified by u guys attitude about this mess. Obviously it was a terrible mismatch about the same as a young boxer getting into the ring with a little old lady. I guess that's just a competitive sport when she gets the crap knocked out of her. The winning coach should have his butt kicked by the ruling athletic association. What did he think he was teaching his players by pulling this stunt? When you get someone down, stomp their guts out. What a good lesson for the girls, after all they are competitive basketball players.

Yup, let's reward complete and utter failure and punish sucess, what great forward thinking.

Troyboy · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:21:26 PM »

Should called the game at half time. it is quite obvious it was no "game". The other team had no buisness playing at that level.

lrs · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:24:32 PM »

I'm all for competition.
I like the old saying, "show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser".
But this sounds like a horrible mismatch.
Kind of like the Pittsburgh Steelers -vs - San Francisco Junior College

I'm kind of curious though.
If your team has not won a game in 3 years, don't you think someone would try to figure out what the problem is?
If they can not put a viable team on the court, maybe they should think about dropping the program.
Kind of makes me angry that parents and school administrators would put these kids in a position where they are certain to be deeply humiliated.

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:25:49 PM »

I am sorry I guess i am just a ignorant neanderthal.

Because when I get someone down I am gonna stomp their guts out. If not they might get back up and stomp yours, Don't let them up ever.

This is whats part of whats wrong with our country our kids are not being tought how to win at all cost. They are turning our kids into sniveling wimps.

Stomp their guts and after the game go shake hands and tell them better luck next time. Thats how we used to do it.

ms · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:52:30 PM »

lions 0-16

Land_Owner · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:55:57 PM »

RUNNING UP THE SCORE AGAINST A DEFENSELESS TEAM?

COM'ON MAN!

Competitive spirit my foot. You are kidding yourselves.
Whatever happened to "Good Sportsmenship"? The better Team could have easily gone to a spread zone defense - back court - and worked on its forward thinking offense for the next game without running up the score. Bullies are bullies all over.

Why is it that we shoot wildlife to kill and not shoot to maim? If we shot to maim then we could shoot them with different bullets to see how different loads impact live animal flesh. Kind of like the German's experimenting on the Jews in WWII.

clodbuster · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:20:45 PM »

Find the complete article and read it. It will give the neanderthals here some insight into the situation of the schools involved. I find its always good to have the facts before shooting off my mouth.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:25:46 PM »

Oh come on guys!!!!!!!

This team has nothing to apologise about. I shoot a pretty good game of pool. I have won a few competitions in the local leagues. I do not lay down for anybody!!!!!!!!

When I met my wife she is a pretty good shot. She knows how I shoot and I have lost to her several times just to keep it not so lopsided. Then there come a time when my wife ( then girlfriend ) said I loss on purpose. I told here yea I did. I did not want her to feel destroyed so yes I threw many to her. She told me to play like I was playing anyone else and she never wanted me to give her a game ever again. She does beat beat every now and then and she does get a little pissed but I don't lay down for her. It also makes her a better player. That game between those two teams probably taught the loosing team more than their coach could have. You will not get better if you play people that are inferior to you. I am also a very good chess player and had my ass kicked on a regular basis. I liked playing the guy I knew was going to kick my ass because I learned from him. Dale

mjbgalt · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:31:26 PM »

actually, landowner, we DO shoot animals to test bullets. happens all the time. in fact American Hunter covered a story where hunters in africa shot new winchester bullet designs into plains game and then went into great detail about the ones they had to shoot 7 or 8 times and the ones that got away even though they knew they were hit. and it was not a "shame on you" piece, it was an informative piece.

i was disgusted. and as for this game, why in the hell would the athletic director schedule a team that they knew they could not even come close to winning? why wouldn't you leave that team off the schedule?

-Matt

williamlayton · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:45:33 PM »

The school which lost did not complain.
They have a specialized school for children with learning disorders, ADD, dyslexia. They are inferior in a number of areas. Inferior in number of students, and athletic ability.
The school which won has remorse for taking advantage, piling on point.
The school which lost played as well as they could.
No one was begging them too take it easy and the losing school took it in stride. They play for the fun.
The winning school should feel some remorse for piling on---I think a forfeit is a little overkill but the team suggested this. It probably won't happen.
The winning team just let their pride take over a bit and they learned a hard lesson.
Blessings

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:59:42 PM »

Hey it is a competition. When the Steelers are whipping up on the Cardinals by 28-0 at half time of the Super Bowl next weekend. I sure as hell don't want them to make a point against us. Dale

45-70.gov · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:59:32 PM »

talk is cheap
appology is talk
you play to win and to have fun

why didn't they offer to let them train with them or did they
to forfeit is an insult

i give the loosing team much credit for hanging in there and completeing the game
they may not be athelete but they did show CARRACTER

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2009, 05:20:23 PM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on January 23, 2009, 03:59:32 PM

i give the loosing team much credit for hanging in there and completeing the game
they may not be athelete but they did show CARRACTER

That is exactly right 45-70. My sons basketball team gets stomped on and they keep going. We are a home school team so we play the few home school teams in this part of the state, or any christian schools that will play us.( That means driving an hour one way sometimes.)The government schools want nothing to do with us home schoolers.
Just last night I drove him 50 miles to watch his JV team lose 52-18. Then we stayed and watched the varsity team go down in flames 82-23. It's hard to watch that happen LOL.
The boys on the teams love to play, and are getting better.
Last season they played a game where they lost 106-06! Man that was tough to see! The poor kid who was the point guard would bring the ball downcourt,and 3 of the opposing players would move in on him like a hungry wolf pack. He didn't quit,and this year is one of our better players.
We have the rule that if one team is up by 40 points the clock will keep going. I'm guessing here, but it seems like when we are getting beat bad the other teams will put their less experienced players in for more time since there is much less chance of their losing the game. We get a little bit of a break, and their 2nd string players get some floor time.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2009, 12:28:16 AM »

How absolutly horrible must the coaching and players been on that team to not even pick up a few fouls, and just make one lousy free throw. That whole team coaches and player should be ashamed of themselves.

JonnyC · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:05:12 AM »

Quote from: williamlayton on January 23, 2009, 02:45:33 PM

The school which lost did not complain.
They have a specialized school for children with learning disorders, ADD, dyslexia. They are inferior in a number of areas. Inferior in number of students, and athletic ability.

BILLY said-"That whole team coaches and player should be ashamed of themselves."

My question to Billy--If the school was one of special needs than they did their best. Billy do you think the kids in the Special Olympics should be ashamed of themselves for the " poor performances" they deliver in spite of their disabilities?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:16:06 AM »

Number one, the kids in the special olypics are not competing in the olimpics. Two I have a nephew that is dyslexic, and my friends son is claimed to be ADHD, I guarentee you on your best day you could beat niether in a game of one on one.

Once again we have the liberal slant of punishing sucess and rewarding failure, I'm starting to wonder if the liberals of nowadays were losers and utter failures in their youth and later on in life? I think I am on to something.

williamlayton · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:57:18 AM »

Billy
And I mean all of this in the strongest sense of the words typed.
It was a hollow victory. They were outscored but they were not beaten.
READ what was said "THEY DID NOT COMPLAIN," the winners were the ones that were shattered by what they did.
Can you read or are you the second one who knows what you said when you speak?
You ar a not thinking well.
Blessings

JonnyC · « **Reply #23 on:** January 24, 2009, 03:50:25 AM »

Billy - every time you speak - you give conservatives a bad name.

Heather · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2009, 08:24:25 AM »

There is only 20 girls in the whole school. There wasn't a lot of talent to choose from. The losing team should not feel bad about the loss. They did the best they could with what they had. The winning team showed a true lack of sportsmanship. That is just my opinion.

Heather

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 24, 2009, 09:10:24 AM »

sports ae sports ..but me i was using sports to raise good kids..
i gotta say i definitly would have pulled my kid ,an gone home..
i watched a man berate his son until i thought the kid was just left with nothin,,for misfielding a ball at shortstop..i stay outa family buisiness ,an the guy was lucky i felt that way that day.. i wanted to sucker punch the dweeb into next week..
we are raising sons an daughters here ..not sports stars..
if thier good ..they can be stars,, on thier on.. slim

JonnyC · « **Reply #26 on:** January 24, 2009, 09:13:06 AM »

Quote from: Heather on January 24, 2009, 08:24:25 AM

There is only 20 girls in the whole school. There wasn't a lot of talent to choose from. The losing team should not feel bad about the loss. They did the best they could with what they had. The winning team showed a true lack of sportsmanship. That is just my opinion.

Heather

Heather-I agree with you 100%. You opinion on this should carry alot of weight considering your competitive background .

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:29:14 PM »

After reading the article in the newspaper I sat down and thought about.

It is notworthy to also show another statement that was in the article:

In a statement Thursday on The Covenant School's Web site, the head of school said, "It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened." He went on to say that Covenant has made "a formal request to forfeit the game recognizing that a victory without honor is a great loss."

"...A VICTORY WITHOUT HONOR..."

At least someone at that school had the moral fortitude to acknowledge that what they did was wrong, just plain wrong.

Years ago when I faced some of the hardest times in my life, I went to my grandmother who was 87 years old to help me with her wisdom. She told me that the mark of a real man was not muscle and sheer physical strength that could whip any man. It was the man that got knocked down, but yet had the courage to get back up knowing that they would certainly be knocked down again. That would be the real man the one that may be defeated but still struggled to win.

So my hat is off to the team that really won that contest the one with the kids that had the grit and backbone to continue knowing they had no chance. They are real champions of the spirit and the heart. Those kids showed that they had learned more about life than the coaches of the other team.

They are ones that will keep this country strong they will defend her in times of peril. They will not be a pack of "VICTIMS" looking for someone to blame for their failures. Nor will they grow into adults that will be looking handouts, they will be the ones that get up off the ground dust themselves off roll up their sleeves and do whatever they have to. They will be "REAL WOMEN" among "MEN". They will all be the kind of women a real man needs in this world and will make a great mothers to children of the next generation. Of course that may never marry but that is the type of stock that real Americans come from.

In today's world we have lost site of the fact that the Sports field or arenas or not battlefields. We read in the newspapers and see it on the sports talk shows they liken it to gladiators, war, and so on. It has gone from eloquent descriptions of sporting contest to being the way the games are played. The object now is to destroy, annihilate, crush., and on and on.

That's is what you do on the battlefield not the sportsfield.

Once the sportsfield was used to teach lessons in life, competition without hatred, teamwork, and so on. To show a child that even though he was not a blond haired, hansom, muscular quarterback, say he was a big fat tackle, his part in the effort was just as important and in some cases maybe more.

Now fathers jump onto the field to whip a ref or even players if he thinks his child was slighted or whatever. Sometimes to get after his own if he was not performing to his standards. (He is the type that was probably a miserable failure as a man and is trying to relive his life through his children)

Well anyway the real heroes are the girls that had the courage to take the court with the team they knew they could not beat and yet continued to struggle knowing the outcome at the start. One word sums them up:

CLASS

ken-wv. · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:31:12 PM »

the losing team sure has a lot of heart for hanging in there and not quiting,iam proud of them,they didnt give up and head to the locker room,kept playing to the end.way to go dallas acdamey .

JonnyC · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:50:09 PM »

There is a story about 2 teams playing a baseball game. The score was tied and the rule was everyone on the team had to bat at least once. Billy was a terrible player but it was his turn to bat. It was the bottom of the ninth. The pitcher threw the ball so Billy could have a chance. By a miracle Billy managed to hit the ball on a slow roll to the pitcher. Billy ran toward first. The pitch picked up the ball and purposely threw it over the first basemans head. Billy rounded first and was on his way to second. The first baseman threw it over the second basemans head and Billy was on his way to third. The third baseman purposely missed the throw and Billy was on his way home. The catcher purposely dropped the ball and Billy scored, winning the game. It is said the each and every boy were winners and they had achieved the reason God place us on earth. May or may not have happened, but the lesson is there just the same.