Author Topic: shiloh sharps montana Roughrider ? (Read 1031 times)

Doc Contender · « **on:** August 25, 2003, 03:38:06 PM »

Anyone have any experience with this model they could share?

Doc Contendeer

cam0063 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 27, 2003, 01:50:24 AM »

I can`t speak from experience here, just observations... I personnally don`t own a Rough Rider. If one did reach my hands,I know I would be very reluctant to let it go.

However for target shooting, I would possibly change the buttstock as the drop looks too pronounced. If you were too install a Tang Sight for Long Range shoots, your cheek would be in an uncomfortable and unsupported position above the stock when you crank that sight up. To get into heavy projectiles, big cases and lots of shooting, I would think you might feel the bite of that butt plate a little too. For long range target shooting the Shilo No1 Sporter I would think would be a very good choice. However for hunting, with barrel sights the Rough Rider may be great... There are plenty of guys here who could really give some good advice on this....

cheers....

Clarence · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2003, 04:08:18 PM »

Doc Contender,

I had a Montana Roughrider with a pistol grip, shotgun butt stock. It had the same drop at the butt as a #3 shotgun butt I had at the time. As all Shilohs I've had, it was an excellent shooter. As already mentioned, it had more drop than I like for silhouette and mid-range target shooting. I now have a #1, and prefer the higher comb for those activities. For hunting, plinking, cowboy action side matches, etc., the Roughrider would be a fine choice.

Clarence

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2003, 09:17:08 AM »

Doc Contender,

I have a Shiloh Sharps Montana Rough Rider. I have a tang rear sight and a globe front sight. There is no problem with the using the sights with the pistol grip, shotgun butt stock. I shoot only BB with 510 gr. paper patch or 535 grease grove bullets. I have 1 1\2 to 2 inch groups @ 100 yards. With a minor adjustment to the tang sight I have similar results @ 150 yards. I do not see an advantage from one stock to another. My friend has the straight stock on his Shiloh and I shoot it as well as mine, and I really do not notice any difference or feel when shooting both rifles. I just prefer the look of the pistol grip. Any of the Shiloh Sharps I would not be unhappy with. They are a quality built guns and very accurate. The only draw back I see in a Shiloh is you will miss your family.

Unless you can get them into it. Then they will want one of there own.

Clarence · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2003, 11:12:22 AM »

Redhawk,

I agree that the Roughrider pistolgrip shotgun butt stock works fine with target sights, and I have no issues with it or the similar #3 shotgun butt stock at moderate ranges.

At 600 yards, where the tang sight is elevated 1/2 inch from a 300 yard setting or 3/4 inch from a 100 yard setting, I find it less comfortable to shoot than the #1 pistol grip stock. At those ranges, I am using the side of my chin as my anchor point on the stock, which is less comfortable than being able to use the fleshier part below the cheekbone.

I have the same issue with the Rolling Block with the original Creedmore stock, which is quite low from the line of sight.

For this reason, I have switched to the #1 and the Ballard #7 Long Range for my serious silhouette and mid-range target shooting.

Any of these rifles is better than none!

Clarence

Kenny Wasserburger · « **Reply #5 on:** September 04, 2003, 12:49:12 PM »

Doc TC,
I have handled and shot just about every type of Shiloh sharps made, the mnt rough rider is an excellent offhand rifle due to the drop in the stock. With a pistol grip and the shotgun but its an excellent shooting rifle too.

However due to the afor mentioned drop its not the best suited for prone shooting in any type of matches, once the range exceeds 600 yards ones head will be very high off the stock and proper stock wield for proper sight alinment will be an issue. Felt recoil in any caliber over 45-70 is much more pronouced with this stock design also. This is coming from a guy thats shot over 10,000 rounds in a 45-110 Long Range Express. For what its worth both of my competition rifles are LR expresses with their straight stocks and pistol grips.

Lasty and prehaps most damming is the fact this is strictly a rifle of Wolf's own design its not an orginal sharps offering. I like my original design sharps rifles.

I own 3 shiloh sharps rifles 2 LR express modles and a #1 sporter with Pg stock also. Both LR Express rifles have over 10,000 rounds down them now and are still more then able to hold there own in Silhouette matches or 1000 yard shooting.

Some food for thought

Kenny Wasserburger