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which barrel
« on: January 28, 2009, 11:06:37 AM »
iI am wanting to get a 45-70 for my ultra rifle that has a 25-06 on it now. would the bc barrel fit and look right or will i have to go with 22 in? thanks for your help.
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 11:10:13 AM »
Either would fit, but the BC is generally a open site barrel. You could always scope it, just most don't. The higher comb of the ultra stocks would likely negate the use of open sites...

 I would go for the 22" barrel myself.

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Re: which barrel
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 11:19:36 AM »
so either as long as i use a scope.i aint much with iron sights anyway.whats the recoil like?300 win mag?
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2009, 11:57:00 AM »
Recoilis like a 20guage slug gun. Kinda. Maybe a little less
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 12:03:16 PM »
Recoil depends on what you feed it. ;)
45-70's can screw you into the dirt with stiff loads or you can load it down to almost no recoil.
All depends on what you want.
That's the best thing about a 45-70... Versatility.


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Re: which barrel
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2009, 04:40:23 AM »
what would you suggest? send frame and stocks for purchase and fitment of 45-70 bbl or buy used and hope it fits? thanks
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2009, 05:32:52 AM »
Quote from: deerjackie on January 28, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
iI am wanting to get a 45-70 for my ultra rifle that has a 25-06 on it now. would the bc barrel fit and look right or will i have to go with 22 in? thanks for your help.

I like your idea of using the BC bbl. myself. Plus, you already have a 26" 25-06 tube on the platform why not stick with the long stuff on that rig?

That provides an excuse to start another outfit for your stubby stuff!  ;)
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 06:27:57 AM »
would stock and forearm need replacing to look right?
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2009, 08:17:48 AM »
No, But the carbine stock set is sweet looking. They just look diffrent not right or wrong. 8)
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2009, 10:47:10 AM »
I have nt ever replaced a handi barrel and if a used one will fit thats the route i will take.
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2009, 01:13:39 AM »
Quote from: deerjackie on January 30, 2009, 10:47:10 AM
I have nt ever replaced a handi barrel and if a used one will fit thats the route i will take.

 Fitting is covered in the FAQ's. But if you run into problems, someone will be here. If you see the light on, just knock and come in.  ;)

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Re: which barrel
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2009, 01:20:15 AM »
The BC barrel is too long & heavy.  It wouldn't look good IMO.  Why not get the 24" stainless?
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2009, 04:30:43 AM »
my frame is not stainless but the 22 in blue bbl would look nice.
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2009, 06:59:54 AM »
I've never played with the ultra stock and forearm, but on the Buffalo Classic the 32" barrel makes for great balance.
I like having the longer barrel with the 45-70 for history sake, but either should serve you well.

Recoil will depend on the loads you shoot.  Factory loads are pretty mild on recoil, probably nowhere near a 300 mag.
If you handload you can go from "mild to wild".  I've shot some stout loads and they can give you a pretty good kick.
Buffalo Bore ammo makes some loads that are hot, and they can kick like a mule.
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2009, 08:06:19 AM »
Depends on your personal preference, but a stainless barrel on a blued frame doesn't look all that bad IMO, specially with a nicer stock.

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Re: which barrel
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2009, 08:53:50 AM »
 nice guns.why is it h anr does nt sell barrels pre-fitted like tc? why do they want me to send barreless gun to rem. marlin or whoever owns h&r now?
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2009, 11:34:41 AM »
Because frame and barrel tolerances vary too much, the only way they could offer OTC barrels would be to develop a new frame with tighter tolerances so drop in barrels would be possible. Even if they improved the tolerances for barrels, it wouldn't guarantee a good fit on all frames. If you want a drop it barrel, you'll need to spend more money and buy a TC or CVA.

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Re: which barrel
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2009, 10:14:31 AM »
thanks, i just missed a bbl but what the heck,h and r has a few i am sure. does ffl rules apply when they send it back complete or do they ship bbl seperate?
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2009, 12:39:24 PM »
An unlicensed person can ship a rifle to the manufacturer for repairs or in this case, an accessory barrel, and they'll return it to you, no FFL is required since you're shipping it to an FFL and you already own it, there's no transfer of ownership.

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Re: which barrel
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2009, 09:52:00 PM »
thanks calling h and r tomorrow
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Re: which barrel
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2009, 01:20:48 AM »
I agree with Tim, I have two stainless barrels on blue frames and they look very nice.  Another consideration is do you want an ejector or extractor?  I don't know if it is correct or not, but I have read in several places that there is not much performance difference between the 22 inch and longer barrels with straight walled ammo.  Any input from anyone on this would be appreciated.  Thanks.

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Re: which barrel
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2009, 05:25:56 AM »
Depends on the load Pete, I get 150-200fps more velocity in the 32" barrel over the 22" with 350gr bullets handloaded with a couple powders that I tested, but not all gave that performance, H4198 only provides 25fps more with 300gr bullets in the 10" longer barrel.  :-\

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