Author Topic: Octuplets (Read 2158 times)

Oldtimer · « **on:** January 30, 2009, 04:07:28 PM »

A woman in California recently gave to eight living babies. She already had six and is a single mother. Doctors implanted eight embryos, which is six more than usually are implanted at one time. Neighbors commented that they had not seen her around the neighborhood recently, and she used to pull some of the other children around in a wagon. She lives at home with her parents.

One medical ethicist has already branded the implantation of so many embryos as being very close to medical malpractice. I think that this is one of those things that, while they can be done, should not be done. I would like to see the doctors have to pay support for the children until they are 18. I hope the parents are multimillionaires, so they can fully support this litter.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2009, 04:14:37 PM »

Well no wonder California is broke! Pretty sick if you ask me, what the heck is wrong with her and with the doctors.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:08:08 PM »

Up until now I thought it was fertility meds. What happened here was wrong. Dale

Buckhammer74 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:27:10 PM »

Single mother with 14 children...Irresponsible does not even come close to describing it. I feel sorry for those kids.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2009, 02:57:14 AM »

Most of my Beagles didn't have that many pups.

She had a big litter......

Carl l. · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2009, 03:56:13 AM »

Just my personal opinion only. Someone will donate her a new house, a Big van or bus and plenty of baby food and stuff. Some will give her money. She might have been paid for the implants. How much welfare will she get paid for 14 kids? She has done better than playing the stock market. I will have to wait and see. Carl L.

Heather · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2009, 04:50:55 AM »

Someone needs to donate her some Xanac or Valium or we will likely see 14 serious injuries or deaths when she finally snaps.

Heather

45-70.gov · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2009, 04:52:39 AM »

it is none of our business

until some democrats holds the tax payers responsible

BBF · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2009, 04:57:53 AM »

A very irresponsible way to get on national news. I do agree that she will probably get all kinds of sponsorship. To bad they didn't "fix" her while she was in Delivery.

wareagleguy · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2009, 05:01:48 AM »

Wrong.
Why is it we require everyone to have a license to drive a car but any old dumbass can have a kid. Much less 8 at one time. It may not happen in our lifetime but one day there will be a time that people are going to have to be required to show proof that they are able to care and raise a child correctly BEFORE having a child.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2009, 05:11:33 AM »

Quote from: wareagleguy on January 31, 2009, 05:01:48 AM

Wrong.
Why is it we require everyone to have a license to drive a car but any old dumbass can have a kid. Much less 8 at one time. It may not happen in our lifetime but one day there will be a time that people are going to have to be required to show proof that they are able to care and raise a child correctly BEFORE having a child.

Hey I agree with you 100%, but as we can see by the results of the last election, personal responsibility is considered a bad thing by todays standards. The liberal scum wants nothing more than to have a whole pile of people that take no personal responsibility and want a nanny state to run their lives. I for one want to have nothing to do with the liberal scum anymore, we have been compromising with them for too long, any compromise with them is wrong. We can see by the sad state of our country what compromise with this wrong evil culture of liberalism has brought. They have no redeeming values or qualities what so ever.

I am for splitting up the country , I want nothing to do with the liberal scum and have no desire to listen to their lies and deceit. They do not deserve to be heard in decent company and are not deserving of the freedom we have in America.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2009, 05:12:32 AM »

that makes more sense than other oppresive laws

i say if they have more than they can raise let a few die

if she wasn't supporting the others she should have been neutered
or the hand outs stopped and some allowed to die

CannonKrazy · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2009, 08:20:09 AM »

Quote from: BBF on January 31, 2009, 04:57:53 AM

To bad they didn't "fix" her while she was in Delivery.

They should have fixed her after the first six she had. The doctor that did the implants should have to pay for this mess until they kids are grown,educated and working for a living.

bigjeepman · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2009, 08:48:52 AM »

I just read that this woman is 33 years old. She has 14 children and the oldest is 7. She has a college degree and is currently working on her Masters.
This is absolutely insane.

bjm

crustaceous · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2009, 09:10:07 AM »

Someone's letting their repressed liberal scum tendancies show by trying to vilify the reproductive rights and freedoms we enjoy in our great nation.

Oldtimer · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2009, 10:17:40 AM »

More good news: the family will live in a three bedroom house with the mother's parents. The grandmother filed for bankruptcy in the past year. The oldest of the mother

's children is seven years old. I was at a Habitat for Humanity homeowner application meeting today and talked to a woman who was born in Scotland and was one of thirteen. The older kids helped the younger ones. In this case there is not enough age spread for that to happen. Hope that the kids get out of the hospital soon, I understand that the cost for neonatal ICU is about $100,000 per day per child.

What all this adds up to is that this little experiment (I can't come up with any other word that GB and Matt would let me put up) is going to be paid for out of all our pockets. And this happened in California, where there is already a serious budget crunch, and the courts just ruled that the state is going to have to shell out another $8 billion for hospitals for prisoners. Happy, happy, joy, joy.

torpedoman · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2009, 04:37:34 PM »

california welfare cheat. could'nt happen to a better state they are yelling they are broke while wasting money importing and trying joseph duncan who already is under a death sentence from a feed trial what are they going to execute him twice or just waste a million dollars on a public dog and pony show.

Buckhammer74 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2009, 06:25:56 PM »

Quote from: crustaceous on January 31, 2009, 09:10:07 AM

Someone's letting their repressed liberal scum tendancies show by trying to vilify the reproductive rights and freedoms we enjoy in our great nation.

DAMN!

How the hell can you justify this? You must be catholic. What this woman has done is just plain WRONG! I am not religious, but in my book this is a sin. Her parents are bankrupt, there is no father in the picture, and she is working on a masters degree? How in the hell can she be going to school? How in the world can she support these kids?

I have two children of my own. My wife has been pestering me for 2yrs to have another. I love my wife, my son, and my daughter with all my heart. That is why I told her NO! I can only support what I have. In these times its getting even harder to do that.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2009, 03:37:43 AM »

BUCK you better give her what she wants or she may go visit THAT doctor

gypsyman · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2009, 08:32:01 AM »

I don't care how many degree's that woman has. She off in the head.Oldtimer is right, since the doctors did this, they should be financially responsible for these children. Her parents lost their home, after they set her up with one. And now she wants $2million from media endorsments. If this was a fertility drug mishap, I could understand it. Not what they did. gypsyman

45-70.gov · « **Reply #20 on:** February 02, 2009, 11:27:21 AM »

Quote from: gypsyman on February 02, 2009, 08:32:01 AM

I don't care how many degree's that woman has. She off in the head.Oldtimer is right, since the doctors did this, they should be financially responsible for these children. Her parents lost their home, after they set her up with one. And now she wants $2million from media endorsments. If this was a fertility drug mishap, I could understand it. Not what they did. gypsyman

the doctor was just hired help

when she filed bankruptsy
or filed for a divorce
with 6 kids
she should have been ordered to be steralized before the court would hear herr case
same for anyone prior to getting welfare should be nuetered

wareagleguy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 02, 2009, 01:08:04 PM »

There are many in this country (Catholics) that will have a cow if this women isn't allowed to have all the children she wants.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2009, 01:15:59 PM »

freedom isn't free
she can have all she wants
and if she can't survive with them let her and them die

or who ever wants to help let them help her
but don't FORCE me to help her

Questor · « **Reply #23 on:** February 03, 2009, 03:55:53 AM »

Personally, if I were to have 14 kids, I'd rather go about it the old fashioned way and get a little fun out of the process.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #24 on:** February 03, 2009, 05:36:50 AM »

if we got a kid for every time we had'' fun''

i would be ruling over a large city now

Questor · « **Reply #25 on:** February 03, 2009, 07:38:05 AM »

Do you happen to know why a single mother with six kids would go on fertility drugs to have more kids? I have not seen anything related to the reasoning behind such a person having more kids.

crustaceous · « **Reply #26 on:** February 03, 2009, 08:49:52 AM »

Only in America!
Looks like those babies are already paying their way!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28984255/?GT1=43001

Octuplets mom gets TV, book offers to tell story
The mother of the longest-living octuplets in the U.S. is in high demand

updated 4:57 p.m. MT, Mon., Feb. 2, 2009
LOS ANGELES - The mother of the longest-living octuplets in the U.S. is being deluged with offers for book deals, TV shows and other business proposals, but has not decided what she might do other than care for her children, her newly hired spokeswoman said Monday.

Hundreds of requests have been made since Nadya Suleman gave birth to six boys and two girls a week ago, said Joann Killeen, president of Killeen Furtney Group, a public relations company.

"She's the most sought after mom in the world right now," Killeen said. "Everyone wants to talk to her."

But Suleman, who remained hospitalized with her children Monday at Kaiser Permanente's Bellflower Medical Center, hasn't decided what she'll do next, Killeen said.

Some of the deals and requests for interviews involve offers to pay, said Killeen and her partner, Mike Furtney. They didn't reveal the amounts being offered, but Killeen noted that raising eight babies will be expensive, adding that Suleman plans to carefully review her financial opportunities.

"Right now her top priority is to be the best mom she can be to all her children," she said. "She's hired us to manage all of those opportunities."

The spokeswoman discounted some published reports that Suleman had already decided to host a television show on parenting. But she added that Suleman does want to eventually tell her story to the world.

"As soon as she's able, she will tell her story, and it's an amazing story," she said.

Suleman, a 33-year-old single mother, already had six children, ages 2 to 7 when she gave birth to her octuplets on Jan. 26. Slideshow

Her babies continue to grow stronger, the hospital said in a statement Monday. It wasn't immediately known when the octuplets or their mother would be released from the hospital. At the time of the births, doctors said the babies would stay about two months.

"This has been a very good week for the babies. It is always satisfying to be able to see a baby that was born premature continue to get stronger every day," said Dr. Mandhir Gupta, a neonatologist at the hospital.

The country's first set of octuplets was born to Nkem Chukwu of Texas on Dec. 20, 1998. A week later, the tiniest of the infants died of heart and lung failure. The surviving seven siblings celebrated their 10th birthday in December.

Suleman retained the Killeen Furtney Group to represent her last Friday. Furtney said the company, which normally handles corporate clients and crisis public relations, was referred to her by the hospital. Its clients include the Union Pacific Railroad and the California State Parks Department.

Suleman's mother told The Associated Press last week that her daughter has always loved children and had wanted to be a mother since her teens.

Suleman had all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, according to her mother, Angela Suleman, who is caring for the other six while her daughter is hospitalized.

damascus-doug · « **Reply #27 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:49:57 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on February 02, 2009, 01:15:59 PM

freedom isn't free
she can have all she wants
and if she can't survive with them let her and them die

or who ever wants to help let them help her
but don't FORCE me to help her

This statement really bothers me. I do not agree with what she has done and feel that all she has done is created another burden on tax payers. But to make the statement "if she can't survive with them let her and them die" tells me that the children are being judged for the stupidity of the mother. How can we let them die? Don't we kill enough babies everyday with abortion. There are many families that are willing to adopt children so why in the world would letting them die even be mentioned. As for the statement "i say if they have more than they can raise let a few die", what happens if someone loses their job and has to get help in order to make end meet. Do we just let the children die in the mean time. I have 2 boys that I have/do/will give everything I can to them. My oldest is autistic and I promise that right now I fell he has more sense about him than some do. Instead of taking the punishment out on the most innocent why not look at the cause and try to look at ways to make sure this is not a common occurrence. And yes I do not like the fact that we will be helping support her lifestyle more than her children which is a common theme with these type of cases. Just my 2 cents.

gypsyman · « **Reply #28 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:59:00 AM »

Somebody had to implant those eggs. State ought to sue them for malpractice. Before another looney toon like this women does this again, state's should pass a law for the mother,(and father if she's married) to prove financial responsiblity. We can't stop some ignorant people from breeding, but this sure could have been avoided. gypsyman

myronman3 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 03, 2009, 11:07:41 AM »

i am cracking up here. some of the posters here are notorious for hating abortion, and then go all up in arms cause a woman actually wants her children.

you know what? maybe, just maybe she had a plan from the get go. and it is looking like she is about to get PAID. i dont approve of it, but that is my opinion and it aint worth much. fact is IT IS HER RIGHT, and she exercised it. we all get bent out of shape when someone wants to take our gun rights. so it is alright for us to take someone else's rights because we dont like them? sounds alot like......hmmmmm