Author Topic: Where is TM7 (Read 11812 times)

Graybeard · « **Reply #120 on:** February 09, 2009, 04:35:14 AM »

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Go to my post #92 and see what I wrote in blue as per edit. I know exactly what I wrote because I copied my post from notepad....somebody is changing post when it suits their agenda and psychology. I got a hunch who it is....You're pretty free with the insults; like your (censored word) Gautomano comments.....your business--and who cares.

Sorry that lie won't fly here. Matt fixed it so any edit is shown at the bottom by date and who did the edit. It shows that you are the ONLY one who has edited that post. If you'd be a bit more truthful you'd not need to try to remember which lie you told where. Your next use of the f-word no matter how cleverly hidden will have you permanently banned from this site in accordance with the rules. I suggest perhaps you need to read them as clearly you have no clue what they say.

I have little patience with folks who openly tell lies and post the kinda BS you do here.

Glanceblamm · « **Reply #121 on:** February 09, 2009, 04:45:11 AM »

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OK SO? You said you'd be working on my tiller today. That didn't happen.

Sorry to blow the post but I think that we have worse problems than getting the tiller going Bill...My eyeball recons that I have at least six 55gal bags of those (piney balls) that will be falling off of the sweet gum tree in my front yard soon so I think that yours will probably be the same. Ohh, My Back!,

....Please Send Matt!...Maybe Heather & the kids also as they are probably shorter than my 6'-3" frame & closer to the ground!

powderman · « **Reply #122 on:** February 09, 2009, 04:49:13 AM »

Bill, like most of us here, pretty well has tm pegged. There goes the neighborhood again. POWDERMAN.

rex6666 · « **Reply #123 on:** February 09, 2009, 05:59:27 AM »

A person that is trying to lend truth and justice to the world should go
some where he will be appreciated, by most not just a few.

Skunk · « **Reply #124 on:** February 09, 2009, 06:21:37 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on February 08, 2009, 04:15:24 AM

Thanx for some support. Continuing on what you said....

Benjamin Netanyahu–by all indicators slated to be Israel’s next Prime Minister at a time of unprecedented tension between the various players in the Middle East–is predicting with all the confidence of a seasoned Gypsy fortune teller that Muslim terrorists plan to destroy the burial site of Jesus Christ, located in Jerusalem’s Church of the Holy Sepulcher. He will likely oversee the belated Usreal attack on Iran, which may be coordinated with the destruction of the Holy Sepulcher.

The fact that Netanyahu would go so far out on a limb with such a prediction when not the slightest indication exists such a thing would even be possible–given Islam’s inherent reverence for Christian churches–indicates he knows much more about this upcoming terrorist attack than he is letting on.
Destroying or deliberately damaging Christian churches is expressly forbidden in Islam. Beginning as far back as 636 with the Treaty of Jerusalem signed between the then-existing Christian community and Caliph Omar, commander of the Muslim forces who took the city, the Muslims promised under the “assurity of God” that Christians would receive “safe conduct” for their persons and property, that their churches “shall neither be used by us as dwellings nor destroyed”, that “no constraint” would be exercised against them in religion, nor shall “any harm be done to any of them.” The obvious benefit to Israel with such an event taking place is a no-brainer for those interested in fomenting the Clash of Civilizations; and for the Humanizing Jerusalem note original wording by me said 'Judazing Jerulsalem'...not Humanizing...which is the Israeli's own wording)….their official term. (However, it is true that despite the aforementioned reverence for Christian churches held by Islam and its adherents, nevertheless in 996 a new ruler–“Al Hakim the Mad”–acquired the Caliphate in Egypt, and upon ascension to power instituted a series of changes, burned the Holy Sepulcher and led to the first clash of civilizations, known as the Crusades.

(With Deuteronomy). And by Numbers…. Chapter 31 — for reasons not explained — Jehovah’s attention becomes fastened once more on the Midianites. He orders Moses to kill them. Why? For what happened in Chapter 25. Not only did he order them to kill them…well you can read for yourself. When we couple this with Deuteronomy, the OT etc. we are viewing a handbook for the world Plunderbund; i.e. the NWO, the Globalist, the one world planetary plantation’s slavery handbook. Alas, along comes a man from Galilee who gets in their face and says NO!..For obvious reason he had to be eliminated, hoping that would be the end of the freedom and enlightenment movement.
So a few here have mentioned Mathew, John, and other Apostolic writings. The message is clear as a bell, and has been for 2000 years.

With this said, you sir are right. My Church and other Presbyterian sects (and a few Catholic orders?) have finally realized what was said 2000 years ago. War and murder is not negotiable. Gods and Religions of hate, vengeance, genocide are not tolerable and are false. We are divesting from any companies, including Caterpillar, and other Usreal concerns. Hope this clears up some things as far as I'm concerned.

I appreciate your mature and balanced response regarding the attempt to further pillorize me in my absence by the usual cast; and GB … who has made it abundantly clear that my welcome here as been worn thin. Vendettas, humorous or otherwise, plain give off a stench...

TM7,

I got to looking at your post #92. With the exception of the last six lines, the little tidbit about "Judazing" versus "Humanizing," and possibly a few other small comments, the entire post is nothing but a direct copy & paste from the following three websites:

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/israel-and-the-de-christianizing-of-palestine/
http://forums.myspace.com/t/4374263.aspx?fuseaction=forums.viewthread
http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=239816

What the heck gives with that? These are not your original thoughts to be posted like you originated them (unless the persons that wrote those pieces are you?). Are you trying to make us believe that you write this stuff? I wonder what would happen if one was to look through your other posts? Would I find that they too are nothing but copy & pastes?

rex6666 · « **Reply #125 on:** February 09, 2009, 06:26:08 AM »

Their goes the light switch

powderman · « **Reply #126 on:** February 09, 2009, 06:28:52 AM »

SKUNK. YEP. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #127 on:** February 09, 2009, 08:16:10 AM »

You called attention to your post#92..I was mildly surprised to hear that your brand of Presbyterianism is boycotting the Jews, Israel and those who do business with them. It is remarkable that a Christian Church would ignore < Gen 12:3 >!
This in itself would be a bit surprising, but you make no mention of boycotting the terrorist states..please tell us which of the terrorist states your church in it's wisdom, has boycotted. Surely, Christians have much more in common with Judaism than with Muhammad's jihadists.
I went to the Presbyterian Church up through my high school years, but walked away miserably unfulfilled. During all those years I never once was given the gospel message, and come to think about it, the blood of Christ and it's importance was never spoken of. I am aware that the "Bible Presbyterians" do preach the gospel, but my experience with mainliners was otherwise. I have found a home with Christians that believe the Bible. If a reader attends a Presbyterian Church that preaches the gospel and leads folks to salvation..the foregoing was not meant for you.
Any church worthy of the name Christian, should have at least enough love to give it's people the true information concerning the gospel and offer them a chance at salvation.

" Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal." (1 Cor 13:1)

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #128 on:** February 09, 2009, 09:51:18 AM »

Ya'll had to ask !

WylieKy · « **Reply #129 on:** February 09, 2009, 10:51:03 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on February 09, 2009, 08:16:10 AM

It is remarkable that a Christian Church would ignore < Gen 12:3 >!

Not getting in the way of a good debate, but there are many passages of the Old Testament that Christian churches ignore.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #130 on:** February 09, 2009, 10:54:21 AM »

Jesus came with the new way of forgiveness over laws and sacrifice yet some still insist on an eye for and eye and stone all you can .

ironglow · « **Reply #131 on:** February 09, 2009, 11:26:10 AM »

TM;
Don't know where you got it that I was "dwelling" upon the OT..the gospel is purely NT. In fact the word GOSPEL means "good news",
good news that we need not be condemned by the OT law..because Jesus has paid our penalty and redeemed us
Has not your church told you the "good news" that we are not judged by the law?...That by asking Jesus to be our Lord and Savior, we can be assured of a place in Heaven?

Cabin4 · « **Reply #132 on:** February 09, 2009, 11:32:42 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on February 09, 2009, 05:53:43 AM

But guess what. I was mistaken. I made a mistake and you are correct.

..TM7

TM7,

I think you should go back and review 100% of all your historical posts. To me, all of them appear to have similar errors. Mostly all substance errors but non theless, errors worth your review. How long do you think it will take you to complete the 100% review process and correct all your posts?

Thanks

Dee · « **Reply #133 on:** February 09, 2009, 11:40:04 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on February 09, 2009, 08:16:10 AM

You called attention to your post#92..I was mildly surprised to hear that your brand of Presbyterianism is boycotting the Jews, Israel and those who do business with them. It is remarkable that a Christian Church would ignore < Gen 12:3 >!
This in itself would be a bit surprising, but you make no mention of boycotting the terrorist states..please tell us which of the terrorist states your church in it's wisdom, has boycotted. Surely, Christians have much more in common with Judaism than with Muhammad's jihadists.
I went to the Presbyterian Church up through my high school years, but walked away miserably unfulfilled. During all those years I never once was given the gospel message, and come to think about it, the blood of Christ and it's importance was never spoken of. I am aware that the "Bible Presbyterians" do preach the gospel, but my experience with mainliners was otherwise. I have found a home with Christians that believe the Bible. If a reader attends a Presbyterian Church that preaches the gospel and leads folks to salvation..the foregoing was not meant for you.
Any church worthy of the name Christian, should have at least enough love to give it's people the true information concerning the gospel and offer them a chance at salvation.

" Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal." (1 Cor 13:1)

I have a flash for you ironglow. There are some Church of Christ churches that are also. It is nothing new. Just something you didn't know.

Dee · « **Reply #134 on:** February 09, 2009, 11:42:41 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on February 09, 2009, 11:26:10 AM

TM;
Don't know where you got it that I was "dwelling" upon the OT..the gospel is purely NT

Actually the paraphrase: The Old Testament is the New Testament "CONCEALED", and the New Testament is the Old Testament "REVEALED".

ironglow · « **Reply #135 on:** February 09, 2009, 12:10:28 PM »

Right on Dee;
The OT has so many examples that apply toward the NT; Moses & the near sacrifice of his son.. etc. Many refer to the book of Isaiah as being an OT pre-picture of Christ and his mission..a sort of OT gospel.
Do you mean that some Church of Christ congregations are simply "tinkling cymbals or are they boycotting Israel? I don't mean that to be a trite comment..I really am wondering which one..

Dee · « **Reply #136 on:** February 09, 2009, 01:32:04 PM »

There is one that plays 24 hours a day on shortwave Christian talk radio headed by a Pastor Peter J. Peters. Log on to WWCR (World Wide Christian Radio) and check it out. He plays continually on 9.980 shortwave 24-7, and is Church of Christ. Or log on to www.scripturesforamerica.org
There are numerous denominations even some catholic churches, if you want to call catholics churches. Their theory is identical to TM7's, that the Jews in Israel are not really Jews, and did not descend from the 12 tribes of Israel. To say that TM7 is not Christian, and judge his heart, is not MY JOB, it is God's. I do not know his heart, but I reject his doctrine.
Although I disagree with TM7, I would have to say that myronman (oh Lord, we're agreeing on something), has taken the safest stance, by saying that he doesn't know if they are the REAL Jews.
My attitude is, that I also DO NOT KNOW, however my trust in God says he will sort it out. There is scripture that says in the last days there will be folks claiming to be Jews that are not.
My common sense tells me to support Israel against a religion that not only wants the Jew dead, but the Christian alike. The Jew and the Christian however, in belief, are not on the same page, and the Jews whom are at the present time in denial of Christ, are indeed hell bound on a bobsled. This IS THE AGE OF GRACE, for Jew AND Gentile, whether the Jew likes or believes it or not.

Graybeard · « **Reply #137 on:** February 09, 2009, 01:40:20 PM »

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I use to give urls for the quotes..but don't feel I have to footnote everything on the www especially if just part of an article, so I let the commentary stand on it's own merit rather than where it came from. Since forums are more conversational then literary I don't bother to 'footnote' much these days. If you think I should I will....?

..TM7

Footnotes are not necessarily required or even saying specifically where it came from but to be technically legal if it isn't your intelectual property you are supposed to note the source if you know it. It is being dishonest to quote and not recognize it as a quote either via quotation marks or as I did above to show it as a quote rather than your own words.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #138 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:07:54 PM »

All this started because we were wondering what happened to ol TM. I was hoping I had it right, now that woulda been a very cool talking point if our own TM7 woulda been arrested for threatening BO.

How did it get off to destroying churches, muzzies and Israel?

O yeah gotta remember, America and Israel good muslims bad.

I have to say the homocide bomber comment had to be the funniest I had seen on this thread.

ironglow · « **Reply #139 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:34:30 PM »

Thanks Dee;
I wasn't aware that some of them are in that frame of mind. Is this some of that old Anglo/Israel stuff that was preached by Herbert W. Armstrong ? Sure sounds somewhat like it.. I do agree with the rest of your post though, the Jew needs the Savior just as much as anyone else. In recent years there has been an uptick in the number of Jews accepting the Christ. If prophesy as most of us read it is correct, there will be a time when the number of Jews turning to Jesus will increase exponentially.
I am with you in that Judaism is not the danger that Islam is. Islam will not be happy with less than the total destruction of anyone who is not, or refuses to become a Muslim.

powderman · « **Reply #140 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:39:31 PM »

Quote from: Dee on February 09, 2009, 11:42:41 AM

Quote from: ironglow on February 09, 2009, 11:26:10 AM
TM;
Don't know where you got it that I was "dwelling" upon the OT..the gospel is purely NT

Actually the paraphrase: The Old Testament is the New Testament "CONCEALED", and the New Testament is the Old Testament "REVEALED".

DEE. Very well put. POWDERMAN.

WylieKy · « **Reply #141 on:** February 09, 2009, 03:08:23 PM »

Quote from: Dee on February 09, 2009, 01:32:04 PM

There are numerous denominations even some catholic churches, if you want to call catholics churches. Their theory is identical to TM7's, that the Jews in Israel are not really Jews, and did not descend from the 12 tribes of Israel.

There are actually many Jews (individuals and sects) who believe the same. I personally do not know. However, I DO know that many of the same policies Israel has would have most on this forum foaming at the mouth and calling for civil war. For example, I have a very close lesbian friend (I am not condoning the act....at all) that went to Israel to get married to her partner. They were OK with the gay part, but when the found out she wasn't Jewish the wedding came to a screeching halt. Her parents also had a fit when they found out that she was not Jewish. The gay part didn't bother them in the slightest, but NOT Jewish...THE DISHONOR! That is the level to which the Jews in power in Israel suppress everyone else. Their policies are easily as oppressive as any Muslim regime.

Dee · « **Reply #142 on:** February 09, 2009, 03:30:28 PM »

Although I have not been to Israel, and speak only from what I have read, and heard, I understand that although the Jew in Israel is tolerant to VISITING CHRISTIANS, i.e. tourists, they are not particularly fond of resident Christians. I don't know this, just info I have read and heard.
HOWEVER! The Muslim is a heathen religion, that not only wants the Jew dead, real or other wise, but anyone else whom refuses to convert to Islam. Let us not compare mice to snakes. The two (Jew and Muslim) are not even close. They (the Muslim) in my opinion are an indiscriminant biting dog, that will have to be eventually dealt with here. They are a boil on the butt of humanity, and have been since the birth of the bastard son Ishmael to Abraham. JMO of course, and God's.

williamlayton · « **Reply #143 on:** February 09, 2009, 09:25:55 PM »

There ARE two Israelites, The real, spiritual Israelite and the cultural, genetic Israelite, unbelieving in their heart.
Just as there can be two Christians, the cultural, church membership, unbelieving in their heart and the real, spiritual Chrsitian whom God KNOWS.
Paul said much about this and Israel---I pray for them.
The charaterization I get from a couple of periodicals I read is one of reluctant tolerance towards Christianity. The Gospel IS being spread in Israel and Christ is being accepted by many Israelites.
Blessings

powderman · « **Reply #144 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:22:06 AM »

Quote from: Dee on February 09, 2009, 03:30:28 PM

Although I have not been to Israel, and speak only from what I have read, and heard, I understand that although the Jew in Israel is tolerant to VISITING CHRISTIANS, i.e. tourists, they are not particularly fond of resident Christians. I don't know this, just info I have read and heard.
HOWEVER! The Muslim is a heathen religion, that not only wants the Jew dead, real or other wise, but anyone else whom refuses to convert to Islam. Let us not compare mice to snakes. The two (Jew and Muslim) are not even close. They (the Muslim) in my opinion are an indiscriminant biting dog, that will have to be eventually dealt with here. They are a boil on the butt of humanity, and have been since the birth of the bastard son Ishmael to Abraham. JMO of course, and God's.

DEE. Well said, and true. POWDERMAN.

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #145 on:** February 10, 2009, 03:29:33 AM »

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TM7,

I think you should go back and review 100% of all your historical posts. To me, all of them appear to have similar errors. Mostly all substance errors but non theless, errors worth your review. How long do you think it will take you to complete the 100% review process and correct all your posts?

Thanks

Hmmmm cabin... I suppose I would like to see you go back and check all of your posts for historical and factual correctness. Everybody screws up. TM7 admitted he was wrong. Which say a lot more than some other people on here...

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #146 on:** February 10, 2009, 04:25:42 AM »

Dee , i agree with your post .
I just shorten it by saying both Jew and Muslim look to the Christian for finichal gain . The difference being the Jew sees no gain in our death and the Muslim wants to kill the cash cow !

myronman3 · « **Reply #147 on:** February 10, 2009, 04:29:15 AM »

all i know is that there is a referance in the bible about people who claim to be jews but are not. the rest of the details i havent the foggiest. who these people are, and what happens to them is God's job, not mine. me running around worrying about it isnt going to change the outcome.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #148 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:25:30 PM »

Quote from: Singleshotsam on February 10, 2009, 03:29:33 AM

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TM7,

I think you should go back and review 100% of all your historical posts. To me, all of them appear to have similar errors. Mostly all substance errors but non theless, errors worth your review. How long do you think it will take you to complete the 100% review process and correct all your posts?

Thanks

Hmmmm cabin... I suppose I would like to see you go back and check all of your posts for historical and factual correctness. Everybody screws up. TM7 admitted he was wrong. Which say a lot more than some other people on here...

Apparently TM7 has hired a Public Relations Represnetative here.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #149 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:29:58 PM »

Well a kid has to have someone to look up to!