Author Topic: Which companies are making 280 Remington rifles? (Read 1751 times)

kombi1976 · « **on:** February 05, 2009, 03:33:33 AM »

I'm buying a new rifle mid year and am tossing up getting a project done or buying a new rifle.
I'd love a new 280 Rem but they are a little hard to track down.
Any help?

Ruskin · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2009, 03:34:58 AM »

I saw a Ruger 77 about 6 years ago.

jasonprox700 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2009, 04:51:36 AM »

I have a Ruger.
I know both Ruger and Remington chamber it.

Graybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2009, 06:06:42 AM »

I think Kimber and Cooper do as well.

mountainview · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2009, 06:11:37 AM »

Weatherby Mark V comes in 280.

charles p · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2009, 09:26:40 AM »

I have a Browning A-Bolt in 280. About 15 years old now.

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2009, 09:46:16 AM »

H&R makes'em

kombi1976 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2009, 11:51:06 AM »

Quote from: charles p on February 05, 2009, 09:26:40 AM

I have a Browning A-Bolt in 280. About 15 years old now.

How accurate was the Browing out of the box when you bought it?

jasonprox700 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2009, 02:32:14 PM »

I did some reloading for a buddy of mine that has a .280 in the Browning, and let me tell you what. I was impressed! I shot the loads tailored to my rifle in his just to see. I was getting three shot groups around .5" to .75" @ 100yrds!

Loads: 140gr Sierra Gamekings over RL19

surveyor47 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:05:25 AM »

I have purchased but have not as yet fired a 280 Remington barrel for my Encore. I have loaded up 2 batches of Hornady bullet test loads and have a couple of boxes of ammo. Thusfar, what has impressed me about the 280 in comparison to other calibers is price. Whoah! Simply considering the cost of 280 Remington brass, $40/500 pieces, I keep wondering if I wouldnt have been much better off with a 270 Winchester barrel. Even Remington ammo was running $36/20 at Academy Sports. They seem mighty proud of the 280.

People seem to throw away 270 brass in such large quantity, that there is little reason for a person owning a 270 to purchase brass. My question is wether or not the 280 is worth the price difference in comparison to the 270?

Ruskin · « **Reply #10 on:** February 06, 2009, 07:33:29 AM »

The 280 is a sleeper. My brother describes it as a 7 mag without the pain. He likes it better.

jro45 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 06, 2009, 08:28:30 AM »

I choose the 270 Win Mag over the 280. Thats just me.

tn_junk · « **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2009, 08:58:54 AM »

Several years back I chose between keeping a .270 Howa Bolt and a .280 Handi. I kept the Howa and traded the Handi barrel. My reasoning was that the .280 would do little that the .270 wouldn't do, at three times the ammo price. Knowing more now, and having done a lot more reloading, I would have probably kept the .280 and ditched the .270 (which I later did). I think the added weight and impact of the .284 dia bullets, without sacrificing ballistic coeffecient or sectional density, is worth the difference. I think that had the .280 Remington been introduced first, the .270 would be the lesser known round.

alan

jasonprox700 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2009, 10:20:00 AM »

Quote from: tn_junk on February 06, 2009, 08:58:54 AM

I think that had the .280 Remington been introduced first, the .270 would be the lesser known round.

alan

I agree. The .280 has higher velocities with similar weight bullets. The .280 will do what ever the .270 does, and with a little more punch. (Not much, but more). As far as claims of ammo being 3 times the price, I've never seen that.

Quote from: surveyor47 on February 06, 2009, 05:05:25 AM

Simply considering the cost of 280 Remington brass, $40/500 pieces, I keep wondering if I wouldnt have been much better off with a 270 Winchester barrel.

$40 for 500 pcs is a steal, whether it is .223 or .280. Where did you find that price? I want to know so that I can stock up!
What I've found is .270 & .280 are pretty darn close as far as brass prices go. .280 may be a buck or two more, but then again your also gaining a little velocity and ft/lbs of energy too.

surveyor47 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2009, 01:17:01 PM »

Sorry about that. I meant $40/100 cases. I still think thats a bit steep. The bullets seem reasonable. Ive loaded up test loads with Hornady 154 spire points and 162 grain boat tails and H4831. Everything Ive read indicates this round gains little if any velocity by dropping bullet weight, so it does best with bullets in the 160 grain range. The 154 seems like it ought to be a great dumb old bullet that does the job at minimal cost.

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:08:39 PM »

All brass is way to much now. I've got 3 280s at this time and like the 7mm's in any case size. That said, no person or animal will be able to tell the difference with the same bullet weight at the same speed. Yes, you can find heavier bullets on the shelf for the 7mms, but don't know any need for any that heavy now that bullet development has leaped forward in the last 8-10 years. Another rifle not mentioned yet is the Nosler in 280 Ackley Improved. If you want one, get it, or get a 270 and wonder about it longer but be satisfied anyway. DP

kombi1976 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:02:48 PM »

Quote from: tn_junk on February 06, 2009, 08:58:54 AM

I think that had the .280 Remington been introduced first, the .270 would be the lesser known round.

See, in Europe, they have the 7x64 Brenneke which is virtually identical to 280 Rem.
It was developed and released around 1915 about 10 years before the 270 Win.
It quickly became a popular round there and the 270 Win never had the same impact there.
If the 7x64 had been solidly introduced in the USA it would probably have taken the slot the 270 Win now occupies.
Mind you historical aspects would never have allowed it.
Germany was locked in WW1 with England and France and the USA was making a healthy profit from providing arms and other goods for the Allies.
The sinking of the Lusitania and the entry of the USA into WW1 would have ended any chance for Brenneke cartridges to succeed in the USA.

Quote from: dpe.ahoy on February 06, 2009, 08:58:54 AM

If you want one, get it, or get a 270 and wonder about it longer but be satisfied anyway.

See, that SOUNDS like common sense and probably is but it would always niggle at me.
It would always be a compromise, and having done that with cars and then found it galling I don't think I could deal with it again, especially with a gun.
Due to specific circumstances it will probably be the last good rifle I buy for a while and I can't really afford to compromise.

BTW, I did a check on Brownings site and the X-bolt is the only rifle they're chambering to 280 Rem.
I can see it being pretty pricey.
A Kimber would be out of my price range and a Cooper isn't even worth thinking about.
And Weatherbys........let's say I don't think they're worth the money.
What are people's opinion on the Ruger M77 with the new LC6 trigger?
Is the Remington LSS overpriced?
I beginning to wonder if I shouldn't by a CZ 550 in 7x64 instead.
Same performance.
The only hang up is the price of Norma or RWS brass. $:-\$

Drilling Man · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:06:03 AM »

For me, (and i love my 280) the only place the 280 really shines over the 270, is on the bigger animals, using heavier bullets, and that's why i built mine back in 1980. It's worked out very well for me as i drug in all over Alaska harvesting caribou, blk. bear, deer and many other's for my freezer.

DM

surveyor47 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:00:49 AM »

Which bullets do you use for large game?

Drilling Man · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2009, 07:04:09 AM »

Quote from: surveyor47 on February 07, 2009, 04:00:49 AM

Which bullets do you use for large game?

For moose, or where i may meet a big bear, i use 175 NP's... 160 NP's are a good big game bullet too...

DM

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2009, 02:52:40 PM »

My 280s are an old Ruger M77, Browning A Bolt stainless (second one) and an NEF single shot. I saw an A Bolt today on the used rack, blued for $550 at a Pawn shop. Had a Burris 3-9 on it and looked pretty good. I'm sure cash would have had it for 475-500. Also saw a Remington pump in 280 today for 395. Piece of the wood on the hand grip of the pump action was missing, still usable and the rest of the bluing and wood looked pretty good. Haven't shot a new Ruger with the LC6 trigger, but have read they are crisp and usable. DP

surveyor47 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:36:43 PM »

Now, many people will probably disagree, but my study of ballistics tables (some years ago) indicated that there was little practical difference between a 270 Winchester and a 7mm Remington Magnum at least when it comes to non-dangerous game (deer and pronghorn). The biggest difference seemed to be in recoil and the ability to shoot 160 and 175 grain bullets, giving the 7mm a big advantage on elk and of course moose. Having lived in Newfoundland for 2 years, I was accustomed to close encounters of the furry kind with moose. I (and probably most Newfies) dont see any purpose on a round heavier than 30-06 on moose and a 280 Remington with a 175 ought to do the trick nicely. I see the 280 as a 7mm Remington Magnum at +100 yards.

Tackleberry · « **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2009, 07:35:02 AM »

my Browning A bolt Medallion is in .280 Rem and shoots like a laser!!!!! Nothing I've shot with it has moved more than about five feet....its a great round and a great rifle

Dave