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ironglow · « **on:** February 06, 2009, 03:35:53 PM »

Purely good sense and common logic..

Hard to dispute this.......

STATEMENTS MADE BY THE LATE DR. ADRIAN ROGERS OF BELLEVUE BAPTIST CHURCH , MEMPHIS , TENNESSEE :

YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE THE POOR INTO FREEDOM BY LEGISLATING THE WEALTHY OUT OF FREEDOM. WHAT ONE PERSON RECEIVES WITHOUT WORKING FOR, ANOTHER PERSON MUST WORK FOR WITHOUT RECEIVING

THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT GIVE TO ANYBODY ANYTHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT FIRST TAKE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. WHEN HALF OF THE PEOPLE GET THE IDEA THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO WORK BECAUSE THE OTHER HALF IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, AND WHEN THE OTHER HALF GETS THE IDEA THAT IT DOES NO GOOD TO WORK BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO GET WHAT THEY WORK FOR, THAT MY DEAR FRIEND, IS ABOUT THE END OF ANY NATION.

YOU CANNOT MULTIPLY WEALTH BY DIVIDING IT.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:31:01 PM »

Damn I wish I had said that!

45-70.gov · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:44:58 PM »

it doesn't get much simpler than that

but some people still can't grasp that concept

but WE have to help OUR poor.....ever notice that first person plural thing [liberal talk]

TribReady · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:03:41 PM »

We are witnessing the end of our nation as we know it. As have all other empires, this one will end....and we will see it happen.

Graybeard · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:13:14 PM »

Yup I fear that those living today who make it say another five to ten years max will get to see the end of the US. It was a great experiment but like all before it sadly it too has failed for the same reasons all democracies fail.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2009, 06:49:04 AM »

IG this pretty much sums up what is happening in our great land at this moment in time.

ironglow · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:32:11 PM »

I rteally don't like it, but I am cynical over our nation's future also..

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2009, 03:08:51 PM »

Sad but true... I really think that a lot of people are to the breaking point in what we as average americans can stand. This nation as we know it almost ended in the civil war. It was still a very young nation. I feel that another one is fixing to take place... get ready... $:-\$

ironglow · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:40:53 AM »

Sam;
There sure seems to be a great deal of discontent! Bad enough when it becomes clear that most high level politicians are corrupt (look how many cabinet appointees have cheated on taxes)..but we are beginning to see that the judicial system is also corrupt! Today we are little more than an expensive "banana republic", with the "leaders" trying to sop up as much wealth as they can...before absconding...

Could lead to trouble...

TopperT · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2009, 10:48:45 AM »

I count 15 words there. I really don't think I have ever found as much Common Sense in any 15 words spoken by or issued by anyone in or out of Government in a long long long time........maybe never

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I too fear that we are near, not at quite yet, but we are close to a tipping point. What happesn God forbid, if we tip the wrong way is too ugly to consider.......but this I will say....."from my cold dead hand!"

lrs · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:05:58 AM »

It is failing, no doubt about it. And it is disgracefull to witness.
But I still believe in the end, the traditional American way will prevail.
However, it's gonna be a while until that happens, and in the meantime we are in for some genuine hard times.

Dee · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:33:46 AM »

When the city folks get hungry, (and they will get hungry) you will see how mean folks can be to one another. This will not be new for me, as I have seen many times what folks are capable of doing to each other. Then for those whom want to live, it will be "root hog or die".
Hard choices will be made, and consequences paid for them. This is indeed the end of era.

For the tough talkers, it will be put up or shut up time. Talk once again will be cheap. Men of action will be the leaders, and only them will be followed. Not at first, but after failure becomes apparent without them.

copdills · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:58:47 AM »

Very well said, this is very true , I need to send a copy of this to the White House

CannonKrazy · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:24:18 PM »

Those city people will learn a hard leason quick when the store shelves are empty. For the people who know how to raise animals and grow a garden times wont be as hard. Sad thing to say is the city folks will try to take from the people that does have something to eat.

ironglow · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:41:38 PM »

I can raise animals and I plant a garden..but your animals & garden won't be secure if folks get hungry enough. Survival by an individual or individual family sounds enticing, but to survive in such a situation our best chances will be with a small, close knit community. That way there can be a maintainable perimeter, guard roster and foraging parties etc. A plus in this type situation will be the coss reference of talent necessary to survive. Within a 1/2 mile circle in my community are mechanics, a blacksmith, nurses, a veterinarian, naturalist and many other talents..most are good shots also.
One man or one family would have a problem with a 24 hr guard post alone..so small, close knit community is the answer (IMO). That way, roving bands are more likely to pass by in an effort to find "easier pickings".
Really, that is exactly what frontiersmen like Daniel Boone & others did in a very similar situation. Experience should be our best teacher..agreed?

Sorry; I guess I hijacked this thread to a survival discussion, but I felt the need.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:49:50 PM »

Dee and Ironglow:

I am one that resisted the thought of something like this happening in America. Now I am very aware that you two are right.

I say prepare, prepare for bad, real bad things are coming.

williamlayton · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:04:54 PM »

Well, it is a time to trust in a God who has no bottom too his storehouse and is willing to share liberally.
Blessings

LONGTOM · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:22:36 PM »

I will keep my faith in GOD as I always have, but you don't mind if I also keep my arms around my family and my hands on my guns and ammo do you?

LONGTOM

45-70.gov · « **Reply #18 on:** February 10, 2009, 02:56:27 PM »

speaking of survival

who is comfortable with cannabalism??

gypsyman · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2009, 02:15:13 AM »

I personally don't think cannabalism would be a neccessity if you prepare properly. In just about any part of this country, food is available if you know where,how to get it. gypsyman

ironglow · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2009, 03:11:54 AM »

There is much food out in the countryside which people pass by every day...and don't even know it. Not top shelf stuff maybe..but it will keep you going.

magooch · « **Reply #21 on:** February 11, 2009, 03:30:48 AM »

Well, it sounds like the halfrican's strategy is working. He and his idiot party are telling everyone that it's the end of the world and some are buying into it.

It may well be the beginning of the end, but things have been much, much worse than this and not all that long ago. Unemployment was higher in the early nineties, in the eighties and the seventies. And back then we didn't have 20 million illegals to contend with. I still say, get rid of them and our problems are manageable.

I believe there's something else going on that needs to be looked into. There's an awful lot of manipulating of the stock market and international funds and guys like George Soros are at the root of it. What I can't figure out is why a money changer like Soros is interested in socialism. There are a lot more super wealthy Dumbycrats in Congress than there are rich Republicans--why are they so eager to bring on socialism. I don't get it.

I'm not ready to give up on this country--and by the way, the USA is not an empire. There's nothing wrong with this country that a good old house cleaning wouldn't take care of. I should say, a House and Senate cleaning--along with the complete stoppage and reversal of all immigration.

rex6666 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 11, 2009, 03:45:31 AM »

I have a feeling that Dee and Ironglow are both correct.
When people any where, not just in the cities get hungry
they WILL get something to eat, of course it will start in the cities
I grew up on a farm/ranch and can plant and raise cattle and hunt.
but now live regrettably in the city.
most people in the city that i know have no idea how to raise any
thing. so they will have to resort to taking, if they expect to live.
Like Dee says your nice kind next door neighbor gets hungry and you
better watch out. I believe Ironglow has the right idea, it will take small trusted comunities to fend off roving packs, one family can not
do it. The farther from the large cities will be best, but sooner or later
they will come looking for food. Under the circumstances i see no
way to avoid it, we have way too many people expecting to be taken care of, and a government telling them they will be taken care of.
What will happen when these people that are being told they will be taken care of realize that it is not happening.

rparsons934 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2009, 03:49:32 AM »

Quote from: magooch on February 11, 2009, 03:30:48 AM

Well, it sounds like the halfrican's strategy is working. He and his idiot party are telling everyone that it's the end of the world and some are buying into it.

It may well be the beginning of the end, but things have been much, much worse than this and not all that long ago. Unemployment was higher in the early nineties, in the eighties and the seventies. And back then we didn't have 20 million illegals to contend with. I still say, get rid of them and our problems are manageable.

I believe there's something else going on that needs to be looked into. There's an awful lot of manipulating of the stock market and international funds and guys like George Soros are at the root of it. What I can't figure out is why a money changer like Soros is interested in socialism. There are a lot more super wealthy Dumbycrats in Congress than there are rich Republicans--why are they so eager to bring on socialism. I don't get it.

I'm not ready to give up on this country--and by the way, the USA is not an empire. There's nothing wrong with this country that a good old house cleaning wouldn't take care of. I should say, a House and Senate cleaning--along with the complete stoppage and reversal of all immigration.

A intresting way of looking at it. But I agree things have been worse and there are to many immigrents. Have you called a number which is automated and they say press 1 for spanish. That pi**ed me off. If we were to go to mexico or any were for that matter we would have to learn thier language or be screwed.

And a very nice quote to start this thread with.

ironglow · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2009, 04:47:25 AM »

Magooch;
I learned long ago that our new president has nothing worth listening to, so I sure don't swallow anything he has to say. Yes there have been times in my memory when unemployment was higher and wages lower than at present time, but we have not near hit bottom now..but this problem goes much further than mere unemployment numbers. Our govt has bought into a Socialist/Marxist plan and many sheeple are going along with it. When unemployment was high years ago, it was for legitimate financial reasons that could be demonstrated. Now, the problem is a result of crooked politicians, judges unions and other selfish forces all trying to bleed the economy in an unprecedented way...and with no tinge of conscience. Things are very likely to only get worse..I have observed the collapse of nations and read the details..this has all the earmarks. Many must remember the images from the collapse of the Soviet union, when the various "states" went their own way and left the USSR, causing it's collapse. All that and more could happen here.
Now we have a fellow for president who suddenly rose from a position of jr senator from the crookedest state and city in the nation and he is completely baffled. He came into power as the "pied piper" of an idiot legion. Now he pipes and fewer each day it seems even listen to his tune. Especially since he has not given each of them a new caddy and paid their mortgages & recreational drug bills..
It appears that virtually no institution of the government can be trusted; ,and that in many cases such as my own, also includes the state govt.
Just think..two weeks and the new admin is already talking about rationing health care, suspending the 1st amendment (free speech) and taking over the census so they can have some crooks like ACORN gerrymander elections...And some here said they "won't come after our guns ? Don't kid yourself...has any other administration in the history of our nation ever even SUGGESTED a "brownshirt" army of their own ?

Friends, we are in trouble like never before.

Dee · « **Reply #25 on:** February 11, 2009, 05:07:45 AM »

Well said ironglow.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #26 on:** February 11, 2009, 05:36:04 AM »

Have you Guys seen the Charles Schumer sound bite where he says that "sure there is a little pork" in the "porkulus" bill but the American people dont care! I Think he is only listening to the "sheeple" that are waiting for their new stove and car and the money they are gonna get from the rich people! All I can say is that this country needs an ENEMA and it needs to go in at Washington!

ironglow · « **Reply #27 on:** February 11, 2009, 12:16:34 PM »

oldshooter;
Those idiots live in their own , ivy-covered, rubber room.;..and don't have the faintest idea what the real world is like. If things come around to that point (which they may if history is a teacher) I can hear them saying "let them eat cake", as the real Americans batter down the doors..

jager · « **Reply #28 on:** February 11, 2009, 06:12:08 PM »

IG, I hope you are wrong, but feel certain you are mostly right! We are on a "fast train" to a Marxist state and PBO is not some naive "conductor" who doesn't understand what he is doing. In his first 21 days in office he is successfully pushing "socialism" down our throats, while we have to watch as our "criminal" politicians and media "lackeys" assist in the "ruse".
We have to remember that God is still in charge, while we keep our pantry's and magazines full. I think that being prepared and being able to get to a community of "like minded" people who "cling to God and guns" may be as important as a storm cellar in a tornado alert!

ironglow · « **Reply #29 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:23:48 AM »

We have 50 state governments. Some have acted prudently and responsibly while others (mostly "blue" states) have spent all they could and dreamed up taxes to rob more... Wait till the majority of the people can understand that this porkulus bill is designed for ALL the people to be taxed for the spending spree some leftist state governments have been enjoying ?
Should Alabama people be forced to pay for the college tuition break that California gives illegal aliens, but won't grant to Alabamans?
Should South Carolina residents have their taxes raised because the new governor of New York decides in this time of recession, to increase welfare bennies by 30% ? Should Utah residents be taxed to pay for the costs engendered by a "Gay Day" parade in San Francisco ?

You tell me ?