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Offline Maritime Storm

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Piston lubing in a Springer?
« on: February 12, 2009, 03:01:08 AM »
Quick questions. How often should the piston in a  springer be lubed? What kind of lube should/can be used?
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Re: Piston lubing in a Springer?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 03:08:04 AM »
Thanks for asking the question. I'm wondering also.   

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Re: Piston lubing in a Springer?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 01:39:48 PM »
I'll try to help a little with a quick & lite tutorial.

 Springers aren't "lubed" with an oil, the term generally refers to the heavy tar like grease used to coat the spring. The act of actually firing the gun releases the piston, the spring pushes the piston to the end of the chamber.
 The springs uncoiling and the force of inertia forces the "tar" or lube to splatter itself on the walls of the cylinder and the piston.

 Guns usually come with an abundance of lube from the factory which accounts for the way a new gun will "diesel" for the first few shots.

 Lubing isn't required until the gun has worn the cylinder and piston to the point where performance is obviously lacking. similar to the rings in an engine wearing out and reducing the compression to a point where efficiency is lost.

 Or the spring has worn out and has no spring left. This could be 8-10,000 shots or as low as 4-5000 depending on what you paid for quality wise.

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Re: Piston lubing in a Springer?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 02:40:39 PM »
Interesting explanation but quite inaccurate. First, spring tar is not a lubricant, it is used to dampen spring vibration. Its not splattered around the cylinder walls for purposes of any sort.
Second, if you were to wait until the piston wears the cylinder out whats the point of lubing the gun? The piston should be lubricated with molybden disulfide paste, or moly paste, to prevent such an occurance. Once applied, it should last a few thousand cycles before it needs to be done again.
Most newer guns have synthetic seals, so chamber lube isn't really required. However, older guns with leather seals need a couple drops of silicone oil through the transfer port once in a while to keep the leather pliable.



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Re: Piston lubing in a Springer?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 03:25:35 PM »
i have an rws springer from 1988...still shoots great........i purchased a lube kit with it or shortly there after....rws lube kit......it is moly something...my bottle says to put 3 -4 drops directly in the exaust port every 750-1000 shots......i did this tonight...........do yall think i jhave leather or synthectic seals....thanks mack

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Re: Piston lubing in a Springer?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 03:53:13 PM »
can you suggest a specific moly paste ?
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Re: Piston lubing in a Springer?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2009, 01:44:39 PM »
Check out James Maccari website he sells moly lube spring tar and teflon grease springs and seals also if you get to that point.

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Lubeing the Chinaman
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2009, 08:27:51 AM »
I have a couple Chinaman springers one very spartan .177 break barrel the other a under lever .22 Thumb Mauler with montycarlo sporter stalk, Im interested in just where these guy's are lubed
The break barrel was a yard sale find $5 well worth the money
The .22 under lever was $40 new the same store that was selling Dasiy Bucks for $80
Ive only fire'd the .22 about 100 times and am wondering just how to lube that monster? It does scare me loading it, lucky Ive never crushed any my fingers, have seen the love bites from Pic's posted and have great respect for its capacity to mangle a unwarey shooter.
The chinaman booklet with the underlever is poorly written and totally lacks useable information in reguards to lubeing and maintenance. They reference lubeing but not how or where.