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Offline burntmuch

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Trimming a big oak
« on: February 14, 2009, 06:33:28 AM »
I ve got a  couple oaks in the back of my property. One of them is huge. It produced alot of accorns this year. Its really the only reason the deer come thru my property. Well the bottom branches are looking pretty dead, & their huge. Should I cut those off & burn in the wood burner next year or should I just let them fall. Theres probaly 6 or 7 cord there. I have other sources for wood, so my main concern is the tree. What do you guys think?   
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Re: Trimming a big oak
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2009, 11:47:50 AM »
Personally I doubt it really matters which route you go. If it's that big and old I doubt pruning will spur new growth or increase acorn production.


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Re: Trimming a big oak
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 05:26:55 AM »
Depends...how far are you transporting wood for the fireplace now?  Some fertilizer along with that trimming may stimulate new crown shoots.  Keep trucks and tractor out from under the drip line of the tree.  Many of the feeder roots are radial from the trunk and near the surface.  "Cruisin" across those roots is shearing beneficial root hairs which pick up nutrients and water. 

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Re: Trimming a big oak
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 03:10:50 PM »
Nobody drive by there, except maybe the kids on the quad, once in a great while. So you think trimming off the dead branches & some fertilizer will benefit the tree, Thats good. Its a beautifull tree about 80 yards from my treestand.   my neighbors have a horse, would manure work Thanks for the info
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Re: Trimming a big oak
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 04:40:11 PM »
if its a really big tree(say over 100 yrs old) i would not trim it.....its has survived fine without any so i would leave it alone....let nature take its course and the woodpeckers will be happy..it will probaly outlive all of us......even the ones just born......like one of the posters said is what i will say is the worst thing you can do for a tree is absoutly dont let cars or trucks drive anywhere from the dripline to the base of the tree.........fertlize it maybe........i always get a kick of tree trimmers looking at a tree and telling homeowners that this tree or that tree  is sick or diseased becaused it has a dead limb or two on it.........one thing i will always remember that i read about big ole trees is even the great looking ones are more dead than alive........only a small part of a big old tree is actually alive,......

if your main concern is for the tree i would fertilize it lightly and not prune it.......mack

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Re: Trimming a big oak
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 02:45:35 AM »
As with all trees, a way to check for life is to remove a small portion of its bark - but not ringing the whole tree of its bark in the process as it will eventually dehydrate and die, which is one way to kill an undesirable tree.

Checking for growth is usually done on the trunk, but instead just check the "dead" limbs.  If the limb is truly dead, there will be no green at the layer of the smooth core underneath and the appearance of the core will be creamy brown to deep brown with black veins.

The oak tree canopy is not on a one to one relationship with its roots.   The preception that the "root ball" is a reflection below ground of the limbs and leaves above is not correct.  An oak is similar to a wine or champaign glass with a wide base for stability and support and a canopy of limbs and leaves above.

The canopy is supported by an array of radially growing main roots for primary stability with support roots eminating from the mains.  From the support roots are the millions and millions of hair-like (and infinitely smaller) feeder roots for capturing moisture and nutrients that are carried to the leaves for photosynthesis.

Fertilizing the feeder roots (not burning them) is always recommended.  Fertilize at the drip line where the most active roots are growing.

I have oak trees that hurricane winds blew the tops out of, main trunks broken off in a whip-sawed fashion, exactly a green stick type of break, real ugly breaks.  The trees survived that "catastrophy" and are regrowing limbs and lots of green leaves.  My favorite tree stand is in one of these trees.  Had I lost that tree I would be unable to see down a 300 yard lane through the forest as there is no other in that location.  I want that tree to survive.  I talk to that tree when I am on stand and feed it twice a year.

I see nothing wrong with trimming the dead branches from your oak.  They are very hardy trees and will probably outlive us both.


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Re: Trimming a big oak
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2009, 07:57:26 AM »
As with all trees, a way to check for life is to remove a small portion of its bark - but not ringing the whole tree of its bark in the process as it will eventually dehydrate and die, which is one way to kill an undesirable tree.

Checking for growth is usually done on the trunk, but instead just check the "dead" limbs.  If the limb is truly dead, there will be no green at the layer of the smooth core underneath and the appearance of the core will be creamy brown to deep brown with black veins.

The oak tree canopy is not on a one to one relationship with its roots.   The preception that the "root ball" is a reflection below ground of the limbs and leaves above is not correct.  An oak is similar to a wine or champaign glass with a wide base for stability and support and a canopy of limbs and leaves above.

The canopy is supported by an array of radially growing main roots for primary stability with support roots eminating from the mains.  From the support roots are the millions and millions of hair-like (and infinitely smaller) feeder roots for capturing moisture and nutrients that are carried to the leaves for photosynthesis.

Fertilizing the feeder roots (not burning them) is always recommended.  Fertilize at the drip line where the most active roots are growing.

I have oak trees that hurricane winds blew the tops out of, main trunks broken off in a whip-sawed fashion, exactly a green stick type of break, real ugly breaks.  The trees survived that "catastrophy" and are regrowing limbs and lots of green leaves.  My favorite tree stand is in one of these trees.  Had I lost that tree I would be unable to see down a 300 yard lane through the forest as there is no other in that location.  I want that tree to survive.  I talk to that tree when I am on stand and feed it twice a year.

I see nothing wrong with trimming the dead branches from your oak.  They are very hardy trees and will probably outlive us both.


You're looking for the cambium layer beneath the bark