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ASSOCIATED PRESS RANKS PRESIDENTS
« on: February 16, 2009, 08:03:55 AM »
65 HISTORIANS RANKED THEM ACCORDING TO 10 LEADERSHIP ATTRIBUTES

NUMBER 1 - ABE LINCOLN

NUMBER 6 - JOHN KENNEDY

NUMBER 10 - RONALD REAGAN

NUMBER 15 - BILL CLINTON

NUMBER 18- GEORGE H.W. BUSH

NUMBER 22 - GEARALD FORD

NUMBER 25 - JIM CARTER

NUMBER 27 - RICHARD NIXON

NUMBER 36 GEORGE W. BUSH

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Re: ASSOCIATED PRESS RANKS PRESIDENTS
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 08:17:38 AM »
That's about what I expected from the ASSociated Press. Carter in the top 25? Reagan at 10? Their bias and lack of intelligence are still showing strong as ever. ::)
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 08:19:34 AM »
Can't argue with no. 1, don't think I would put Kennedy above Reagan. He really wasn't in office that long. Think that they rate him so high is because he was assasinated. Clinton shouldn't be quite that high, and as far as I'm concerned, Carter was the absolute worst. He let 10,000's of thousands of illegal, aids infected Haitians in this country, double digit inflation as well as high interest and unemployment. He is as big an idiot as Gore. JMO  gypsyman
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 08:46:42 AM »
Why did you chose only that small group to display? Clearly you have some motive here in chosing this small group.

I'd certainly not place Lincoln in the upper half much less in first place. I'm not sure I'd place him dead last either but he'd not rank above many other than Carter, Bush two and Klinton. I feel sure the current pres will easily take over last place however. He certainly is headed there fast.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 09:03:51 AM »
My top 3 are:
1 - George Washington
2 - Ronald Reagan
3 - Andrew Jackson

The bottom would be comprised of

1 - Woodrow Wilson
2 - FDR
3 - Bill Clinton
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 09:22:57 AM »
Really thats a hard poll to make w/o being completely unbias, which none of us our...

Do you have a link to that article?
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 09:31:37 AM »
did they not have a ranking for.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 09:43:28 AM »
That dirtbag Obama is comparing himself to Lincoln, and the press is going along with it.

This is highly offensive because Lincoln lived a life of great accomplishment to gain the recognition he deserves. Obama has done nothing constructive at all.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2009, 09:46:43 AM »
Ranking the Presidents? Hmmmmm. Well the the number 1 slot would not be my first pick for Lincoln. Possibly more like # 2 in the bathroom catagory.

This latest President is however, about as RANK AS THEY GET, if you know what I mean.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2009, 09:48:07 AM »
I think it is odd that a man that practically abolished states rights is ranked #1!

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2009, 09:54:12 AM »
Heather consider the source , don't have high expectations and you won't be disappointed . It must all fit their agenda !
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2009, 09:59:19 AM »
Quote from: Graybeard on February 16, 2009, 08:46:42 AM
Why did you chose only that small group to display? Clearly you have some motive here in chosing this small group.

I'd certainly not place Lincoln in the upper half much less in first place. I'm not sure I'd place him dead last either but he'd not rank above many other than Carter, Bush two and Klinton. I feel sure the current pres will easily take over last place however. He certainly is headed there fast.

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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2009, 10:09:29 AM »
Quote from: rex6666 on February 16, 2009, 09:31:37 AM
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President: 2009 rank, 2000 rank

Abraham Lincoln: 1, 1

George Washington: 2, 3

Franklin D. Roosevelt: 3, 2

Theodore Roosevelt: 4, 4

Harry S. Truman: 5, 5

John F. Kennedy: 6, 8

Thomas Jefferson: 7, 7

Dwight D. Eisenhower: 8, 9

Woodrow Wilson: 9, 6

Ronald Reagan: 10, 11

Lyndon B. Johnson: 11, 10

James K. Polk: 12, 12

Andrew Jackson: 13, 13

James Monroe: 14, 14

Bill Clinton: 15, 21

William McKinley: 16, 15

John Adams: 17, 16

George H.W. Bush: 18, 20

John Quincy Adams: 19, 19

James Madison: 20, 18

Grover Cleveland: 21, 17

Gerald R. Ford: 22, 23

Ulysses S. Grant: 23, 33

William Howard Taft: 24, 24

Jimmy Carter: 25, 22

Calvin Coolidge: 26, 27

Richard M. Nixon: 27, 25

James A. Garfield: 28, 29

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Zachary Taylor: 29, 28

Benjamin Harrison: 30, 31

Martin Van Buren: 31, 30

Chester A. Arthur: 32, 32

Rutherford B. Hayes: 33, 26

Herbert Hoover: 34, 34

John Tyler: 35, 36

George W. Bush: 36, NA

Millard Fillmore: 37, 35

Warren G. Harding: 38, 38

William Henry Harrison: 39, 37

Franklin D. Pierce: 40, 39

Andrew Johnson: 41, 40

James Buchanan: 42, 41

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2009, 10:18:33 AM »
This is purely coincidental I assure you, but I just started a thread on the Civil War forum about the evidence of Lincoln possibly being gay. You don't think Obama whom greatly admires Lincoln, will do anything Lincolnesque while he's in office do you? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2009, 10:32:12 AM »
is this gay pride day or something ?
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2009, 10:36:52 AM »
Probably not, but you must admit that, so far Obama's presidency sucks. ;)
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2009, 11:00:32 AM »
You know what Dee , win or loose i have always tried to respect the president no matter the party . The men who have had the office since i started voting with the exception of Reagan have all but caused me to give up that notion . This time is it ! It is hard to respect those who don't respect me .
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2009, 11:35:54 AM »
Quote from: Questor on February 16, 2009, 09:43:28 AM
That dirtbag Obama is comparing himself to Lincoln, and the press is going along with it.

This is highly offensive because Lincoln lived a life of great accomplishment to gain the recognition he deserves. Obama has done nothing constructive at all.
that may turn out to be a good compairson remember lincoln had the last civil war.
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2009, 11:58:57 AM »
Good point torpedoman
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Re: ASSOCIATED PRESS RANKS PRESIDENTS
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2009, 12:01:38 PM »
Quote from: Dee on February 16, 2009, 09:46:43 AM
Ranking the Presidents? Hmmmmm. Well the the number 1 slot would not be my first pick for Lincoln. Possibly more like # 2 in the bathroom catagory.

This latest President is however, about as RANK AS THEY GET, if you know what I mean.

HAHAHA. I agree with the #2
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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2009, 01:06:05 PM »
Quote from: Dee on February 16, 2009, 10:18:33 AM
This is purely coincidental I assure you, but I just started a thread on the Civil War forum about the evidence of Lincoln possibly being gay. You don't think Obama whom greatly admires Lincoln, will do anything Lincolnesque while he's in office do you? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dee- if you were a Lincoln scholar, you should know Lincoln wasn't gay. He just had a very unattractive wife. And if you feel that way about gays in the White House, don't judge Clinton for what he did .
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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2009, 02:08:55 PM »
Quote from: Singleshotsam on February 16, 2009, 09:22:57 AM
Really thats a hard poll to make w/o being completely unbias, which none of us our...

Do you have a link to that article?

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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2009, 02:18:56 PM »
Quote from: JonnyC on February 16, 2009, 01:06:05 PM
Quote from: Dee on February 16, 2009, 10:18:33 AM
This is purely coincidental I assure you, but I just started a thread on the Civil War forum about the evidence of Lincoln possibly being gay. You don't think Obama whom greatly admires Lincoln, will do anything Lincolnesque while he's in office do you? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dee- if you were a Lincoln scholar, you should know Lincoln wasn't gay. He just had a very unattractive wife. And if you feel that way about gays in the White House, don't judge Clinton for what he did .

What's your point?
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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2009, 02:43:05 PM »
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Lincoln wasn't gay. He just had a very unattractive wife.

ROTFLMAO!
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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2009, 02:59:50 PM »
Quote from: Singleshotsam on February 16, 2009, 02:43:05 PM
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Lincoln wasn't gay. He just had a very unattractive wife.

ROTFLMAO!

Don't know what that means ?
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2009, 03:01:22 PM »
Quote from: Dee on February 16, 2009, 02:18:56 PM
Quote from: JonnyC on February 16, 2009, 01:06:05 PM
Quote from: Dee on February 16, 2009, 10:18:33 AM
This is purely coincidental I assure you, but I just started a thread on the Civil War forum about the evidence of Lincoln possibly being gay. You don't think Obama whom greatly admires Lincoln, will do anything Lincolnesque while he's in office do you? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dee- if you were a Lincoln scholar, you should know Lincoln wasn't gay. He just had a very unattractive wife. And if you feel that way about gays in the White House, don't judge Clinton for what he did .

What's your point?

In the words of Froghorn Leghorn " THAT'S A JOKE SON !"
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2009, 03:29:04 PM »
Well actually that's "FOG" horn Leghorn, and the proper quote would be: Ah say, Ah say, Ah say that's a joke son! Ah say! That's a joke!

By the way. I AM a Foghorn Leghorn scholar. ;D
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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2009, 03:41:40 PM »
YOU GOT IT
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2009, 04:47:34 PM »
I agree with the list. Where's Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabi, though? I thought they were 2 and 3 respectively.
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