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Offline S.S.

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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2009, 01:00:28 PM »
this may have already been mentioned, but a downfall in this discussion
is the weight of the ammo. you won't be able to carry a whole lot of ammo if
you had to bug out.
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2009, 05:55:38 PM »
I would pick a smoothbore, preferably a 26" with screw-in chokes. The rifled choke tubes work pretty good with the cheap foster type slugs.   
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2009, 09:41:00 AM »
You could only carry so much on your person but in a truck etc you could carry quite a bit . You can hide some so you could re supply  as needed .
In a real world SHTF deal you would resupply off the ones you counted as an enemy ?  And your supply would need to be only big enough to see you thru. until that takes place .
For food trapping , fishing and pre stored supplies would be better than hunting in many cases .
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2009, 09:54:44 AM »
The carry problem keeps coming up here and if you were gonna be on the run i guess that would be a consideration. I guess My idea of a SHTF situation would be gathering my family here and taking care of what we have and defending ourselves and our animals. So a fist full of 2o gauge or 12 ga. shells will do in a pince. Not saying I would only have that many available. and not saying how many I do have  ;) but i still choose the smooth bore IF I COULD ONLY KEEP ONE! and only if. Now take that and a buck fitty and go buy you a cup of coffee!
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2009, 09:57:03 AM »
Oldshooter, if you can do it, it ain't braggin  :) and I don't plan to come within 60 yds. of you with your shotgun.
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2009, 10:00:57 AM »
Quote from: TeamNelson on February 23, 2009, 09:57:03 AM
Oldshooter, if you can do it, it ain't braggin  :) and I don't plan to come within 60 yds. of you with your shotgun.

 ;D That wont save you my 4 sons will have rifles! They dont listen to a damned thing i say!   ;)
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2009, 02:10:33 AM »
guess if you carry a shotgun you have to plan your day with that in mind , you would do things like not standing in the open , if you could not avoid a fight you would make it best suited to your weapon and hunt to maxmise your chance .
If we look at history those who went in harms way and knew what they were doing in an up close and personal way often chose a shot gun . Who are we to ? that
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2009, 03:00:23 AM »
The shotgun got it's reputation because it worked best when you were running down a trench line with Germans around every corner, and the alternative was a bolt action Springfield. There are better choices these days.
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2009, 03:12:02 AM »
Most of our frontier forefathers chose shotguns because they could only afford one gun.  They were farmers who hunted food and occasionally confronted a wild predator.  A shotgun with a 30-40 yard range suited them fine.  It had real stopping power. 

If they left the farm to live off squirrel, trap beaver  or shoot buffalo, and especially if they anticipated occasionally facing two legged varmints, they would trade for a rifle.  If they were going to war on their neighbors (as they did along the Missouri/Kansas border) they would also beg, borrow or steal as many six guns as their horses could carry.  

Your choice of guns is dictated by how you think you are going to live, and if or how you are going to be transported.  Since we don't know the future, I think we are best served by becoming more proficient with the guns we have.  Practice, practice, practice.
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2009, 04:20:31 AM »
Guess the grand sons of those in the trenches of WW1 feel the same way as there seems to be many shotguns in use in Iraq .
As far as the farmers moving west , like many today they chose the tool that offered the most options . Lets face it the ammo of today for a shotgun out classes most any thing aval. to those heading west back in the day.
If you take a honest look you will notice many assult rifles may shoot 600 yards but are of little real use much past what a good slug gun will do . Yes you can go ti a good bolt gun but then you are back in the trenches of WW1 , With ammo being improved every day the shot gun has much to offer .
It may not be perfect but it will hold its own if the shooter is up to the task.
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2009, 04:37:59 AM »
smooth bore    12gage  open choke

SHTF  at  night mostly
its fifty yards  out and all  you see is occasional cigarette glow
your  only  aimimig point
i blast to the left then right of the glow with overlapping pattern

#4 buck   not  the most deadly
but  most likely to make a serious connection

4  hoodlums some where behind  you hedge  or privacy fence......day or night
do  you want good accuracy  and   long range capability
or  do you want  what  is called...........''target area saturation''

smooth bore.......buck shot....with a few slugs  in daylight only  and when called for
the size buck shot  needs to be another thread......larger shot  in cold climates or if privacy fences around
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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2009, 06:54:29 AM »
45-70 gov and shootall  have a point. If you are talking about home defense, at night, in the dark, I am a firm believer in a short barreled shotgun.  It is simply the best tool for the job.    That is what I would grab right after dialing 911.

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Re: Rifled or smoothbore?
« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2009, 08:09:09 AM »
The nice thing about a shotgun for home defense is that it will shoot through only a few walls, not through your house and the neighbors house like a handgun or a whole block of houses like a rifle. They do have their uses.
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