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10 best firearms of all time!
« on: February 18, 2009, 04:13:42 AM »
Don't just write down a list.  Number them 1 being the best, 10 being 10th best and describe why you think they belong in the top 10...

Here is mine

Top 10 firearms of all time
By: Singleshotsam

#10 – The Kentucky Rifle. 

Not much could be said for the firearms before the 1750’s.  You put powder in them, some shot, lit it off it went bang and the lead went somewhere out the end of the barrel.  Then around 1740’s a bunch of German immigrants came to the new world, mingled with some other immigrants and figured out, “Hey! If we put a bunch of spirals down this barrel, and make the lead ball fit tighter you can actually hit stuff!”  Thus the Kentucky rifle evolved into existence.  It could be made completely by hand in the wilderness,  was much more effective in killing game and Indians, and the guy carrying one just looked like a badass!  This rifle bred good marksmanship. Thus earning its place in my top 10 list.

# 9- The Colt Revolving Pistol

It’s said that God made all men, but Samuel Colt made them equal.  Well I’m not sure how true that is but he did make a stupendous revolver.  So much so that the initial design has been around and in use for generations!  Numerous calibers, barrel lengths, a rugged design and handsome looks made this the go to pistol design for the ages.  Plus it makes modern day people once again look like cowboys!

# 8 - The Henry Repeating Rifle.

Well, here it is.  The first practical lever action-repeating rifle.  It got picked over the Spencer carbine because, well, it’s just easier to operate.  A high rate of fire, good looks, decent accuracy and tremendous magazine capacity.  The rifle you can load on Sunday and shoot all week long.  It was the basis of the infamous Winchester repeater and technically won the west.  Used by cowboy and Indian alike.  This rifle definitely deserves a spot in the top 10!

# 7 - M2 .50 caliber machine gun

Well of course it’s on my all time list!  It will mount on a jeep, the ground, on a train, on a plane, in a box or on a fox(hole).  It will shoot through as many people as you want to line up, armor, engine blocks, trees, walls (did I mention people?).

It makes a loud bang, which make communist and liberals pee themselves.  The cartridge is the basis for many modern sniper rifles and is still in service today.  Why wouldn’t it be in the top 10?

# 6 - Colt 1911 auto loading pistol

On March 3rd 1911, the US military ordinance torture tested a series of pistols based on a .45 caliber cartridge.  The test consisted of having each gunfire 6000 rounds. One hundred shots would be fired and the pistol would be allowed to cool for 5 minutes. After every 1000 rounds, the pistol would be cleaned and oiled. After firing those 6000 rounds, the pistol would be tested with deformed cartridges, some seated too deeply, some not seated enough, etc. The gun would then be rusted in acid or submerged in sand and mud and some more tests would then be conducted. John Browning’s 1911 pistol passed the test and set the bar.  Since then it hasn’t stopped.  There are more parts available for upgrades and replacement than you can shake a stick at and the military is even thinking about going back to the .45 to replace the 9mm that replaced it.  It has scores of fans, and is the bane of those that wish its owners harm.  Truly a go to gun.

# 5 - The Winchester Model 1897
   
Any gun by which the German High Command tries to outlaw on the basis that it is “inhumane” is a gun I want!  An adapted version of John Browning’s earlier design the 1897 Winchester pump was the best early example of a pump action ever designed.  The thicker receiver allowed the use of smokeless shells, and the ability to “take down” the barrel made this one of the premier go-to guns for many Americans.  Military men adored it in the trenches during WW1 and it’s adoration continued for many years in the development of tactics and hunting using shotguns.

# 4 - The Mauser Model 1871
   
Look in your gun cabinet.  Do you own a bolt action?  Chances are it’s an adapted version of the original Mauser design. The basis of some of the greatest hunting rifles in history, the Mauser action has truly been time tested and shooter approved.  So much so that they are the go to style for many dangerous game hunters. They are so reliable that it borders stupidity and are strong enough to chamber some of the largest, loudest, most self - abusing cartridges ever known to man. 

#3 - AK 47

Ok guys, whether you like it or not, a kid can operate it, and in Africa you can buy trade a chicken for one.  It’s deadly and retardedly simple (yes I’m inventing words) to operate.  Not really accurate, but it sprays out so much lead that you wouldn’t want to stand in front of it.  I’m tired of seeing it as the #1 so I’m going to make it #3. 

#2 - AR 15
Once again, like it or not, it’s the most mass produced US military rifle ever.  Its accurate, deadly, lightweight and after the US ordinance got their heads out of their asses and set up the ammo the way Stoner designed it, (and issued cleaning kits), its been the #1 weapon for the US Army for going on 50 years.  You can take it apart in seconds, and switch to a completely different caliber or setup.  Easy to clean and maintain.  Plus it’s cool to own one. 

#1 - M1 Garand

Simply put by Gen. George S Patton.  "The greatest battle implement ever devised."  That’s why it’s #1.


There you go...  Tear me apart :D :D :D - Singleshotsam
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 05:57:30 AM »
The Gatling Gun is the manliest gun of all time and number 1 on my list. :o :o ;D ;D

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OK then. Here is my list. Mine are listed with #1 being best and #10 being the worst.
#1  The Gatling Gun
#2  Barrett M107 .50 Caliber sniper rifle 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWJp14tkBlU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSOUWtd-mec
#3  Remington's M24-A2 Sniper Rifle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zejpwi-ovEc
#4  M-16 assult Rifle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4weIh3Mc6kU
#5  AK-47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwVAIPqwDf0
#6 Thompson Submachine Gun M1 and MP 40. The original gangster gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISyn0YLZ2IM&feature=related
#7  The Glock handgun. They are tough!!!!!!!! In the video below these guys fire 1,000 rounds in just under 14 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyZxQfIBXDc&feature=related
#8  M1 Garand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLY3T1zGO9o
#9  Sharps 45-70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJEsIDttxs
#10 Remington 870 12 gage pump shotgun. Just can't argue that. :o ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOaaDahfkiE
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/model_870_express_synthetic_18inch.asp

Well there it is that is my list and am sticking to it. ;D ;D

 

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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 06:38:17 AM »
That's debatable... Besides, this is the 10 ten firearms of all time. 
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 06:42:04 AM »
I am still thinking about the other nine. Dale
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 06:43:58 AM »
lol, well its off to a good start anyway :D
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 07:13:18 AM »
The Kentucky rifle...Most scholars call these American Long Rifles and Germanic people were rifling matchlocks as early the 1550s...By the early 1700s the jeager with double set triggers and a sliding wood patch box had evolved, it had a rifled barrel as well...

By the mid 1700s Germanic gunsmiths were starting to ply their trade in the Colonies...Prior to the American Revolution most barrels and locks were imported from Germany and England...The earliest known signed and dated Longrifle is the John Shreit dated 1761...

Once the Germans started making rifles for hunters the barrels were made longer and the bore smaller for American game...Brass spring loaded patch boxes also came into being...By 1775 the typical longrifle had fully evolved...

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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 07:25:26 AM »
The rifles before the M1 Garand must have been real pieces of crap. I've used one and could not figure out why any soldier burdened with a heavy log like that would think highly of it. Thank heaven for today's rifles, which are much better by far.
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 07:30:35 AM »
The rifles before the M1 Garand must have been real pieces of crap. I've used one and could not figure out why any soldier burdened with a heavy log like that would think highly of it. Thank heaven for today's rifles, which are much better by far.
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 08:12:07 AM »
Actually, the 10 best firearms of all time are the 10 I own (ok, it may be a bit more than 10, but you know what I mean).  We could argue all day on the top 10, and even though it's entertaining and fun, it really gets us nowhere.
I'll just stick to the one's I own as the best of all time  ;D  ;D
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 08:42:29 AM »
 1.marlin 60 rifle accurate,, mean especialy when loaded with velocitors..
 in more households than most any gun i can think of..
 2. any good auto 12ga.,we ll say the rem 1100..good at huntin most anything ,excellent protection.a getter done gun..
 3 S&W revolver.mean an dependable..
4.savage 110 .. rich mans accuracy at a poor mans price.
5.thats far as i can go.. nobody said we had to be an expert on guns to submit a list
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 01:58:03 PM »
Hummmm, maybe it depends on the era they were developed.
In the era it was developed the machine gun changed the ways wars were fought, you know the old WWI battle machine gun.
In its day the BAR was a national treasure not used because it might fall into the hands of the enemy.
In it day the Brown Bess was an awsome weapon.
Disclaim it til the cows come home but in WWII there was nothing on the front lines that instilled fear more than the German light machine gun.
David made quite a show with a sling shot.

In modern day weaponry:
BAR
1911
Mas Duce
M4 grenade launcher
MI Graand
AK47
Tommy Gun
M60
Springfield/Enfield/Mauser
MY wife, The Hen

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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 04:44:24 PM »
#1 M1 Garand
#2 M16
#3 M1911
#4 Mauser M98
#5 AK 47
#6 Brown Bess
#7 Win M12/Rem M870 tie
#9 Win m94
#10 Colt SAA

Actually this list is in no particular order for me.  A mix of my fav's and those that are historically significant.

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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 07:11:27 AM »
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"MY wife, The Hen"

Hey William!  No fair man!  Brining wives into this is kinda like going nuclear! :D :D :D
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2009, 07:19:07 AM »
The Military Channel did a show on the Top 10 combat rifles.  Here's what they voted:

10) M-14
 9) Sturmgewehr 44
 8) 1903 Springfield
 7) Steyr AUG
 6) Mauser 98k
 5) FN FAL
 4) M1 Garand
 3) Lee Enfield SMLE
 2) M16
 1) AK47

I am familiar with six of these choices but I don't know about the others.   I guess this would be just a subset of the original post.
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 07:50:24 AM »
The Military Channel did a show on the Top 10 combat rifles.  Here's what they voted:

10) M-14
 9) Sturmgewehr 44
 8) 1903 Springfield
 7) Steyr AUG
 6) Mauser 98k
 5) FN FAL
 4) M1 Garand
 3) Lee Enfield SMLE
 2) M16
 1) AK47

That's an outstanding list. I'd reorder the list though, but only to my preferences on which rifles I'd like to have, not if one is better than another:

1. M14: I like 308 better than 30-06, otherwise first place would be the Garand. Really a toss up.
2. M1 Garand
3. Mauser 98K: The Granddaddy of all modern bolt actions
4. M16
5. 1903 Springfield
6. Sturmgewehr 44
7. Steyr AUG
8. Lee Enfield SMLE
9. FN FAL
10. AK47
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2009, 11:48:15 AM »
Yeah, that was an interesting episode.  If you ever get a chance, youtube it. 
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2009, 11:54:27 AM »
None of the semi-autos would make my list.
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2009, 12:04:43 PM »
Maybe there should be 2 separate lists, 1 for military and one for firearms used for sport. 
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2009, 12:10:40 PM »
lrs-good idea. Mauser 98 makes both lists....and near the top of each!!   :D
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2009, 10:55:55 PM »
In no particular order...

I'd have to throw in the S&W Model 29.  It started a whole genre of revolvers that are still going strong and getting bigger and bigger.

Definitely the GLOCK.  Though I don't own one and probably won't, there's no denying it's strength, reliability and accuracy.  It started it's own genre of "plastic" guns.

A new one... the XDm in 9mm.  19+1 say's it all...

The AK-47 for it's toughness, design, utility and the fact that it's EVERYWHERE!

Remington 1100 - changed the face of autoloading shotguns for ever...

Ruger Mark I, II and III (or whatever they are up to now)

Ruger 10/22



Pretty much everything else has been covered...


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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2009, 03:31:36 AM »
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None of the semi-autos would make my list.

What would make your top 10 list swampy?
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2009, 03:39:28 AM »
My vote for #1 would be a firearm that isn't generally owned by private individuals, but allmost every one that served has fired one.

The M2 50 caliber heavy machine gun, it has been in service as a front line weapon with the US and many other countrys since the 1920's.

I can think of no weapon that has been considered as a first rate weapon in modern armys for so long. Just goes to show you what a genious John Moses Browning was. If this thread were to ask who was the top 10 firearms designers, I cannot imagone anyone would compare to Browning.
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2009, 04:44:19 AM »
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None of the semi-autos would make my list.

What would make your top 10 list swampy?

Can you say "Remington 700" ten times fast?  ;D

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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2009, 05:09:50 AM »
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None of the semi-autos would make my list.

What would make your top 10 list swampy?

Can you say "Remington 700" ten times fast?  ;D
No but it did make #3 on my list  Remington's M24-A2 Sniper Rifle. ;D Dale
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Re: 10 best firearms of all time!
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2009, 05:11:36 AM »
I've always heard that imataion is the greatest form of flatery, No one I know of copies Rem 700s, Almost everyone else copies Mauser.

Hmmmm what could that mean? Most everyone has copied JM Browning also. 8)

By the way Billy I think you could list the Mauser brothers with ole John and maybe Hiraim Maxim.
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