These scumbags should be happy it is not my daughter!!!!!

[DalesCarpentry]

Here are some more scumbags. I hope they fry in hell!!!!!!!! I could not control myself if this was my daughter involved. Dale
http://www.wpxi.com/news/18743065/detail.html

[Matt]

There you go again Dale...

I say if your daughter was off somewhere drinking and doing drugs and something happen to her... then it is your ass that needs a foot put in it for letting it happen...

I promise you if teenagers wants to do something and they are given a long enough leash from their parents... they will do what ever it is they want. I am around the younger generation quite a lot and have a 15yr old of my own... they do what ever they want to if as a parent you don't do your job. With my teen I feel lucky, really I do he is a straight A student and one helluva soccer player. I know he wants to try weed and he knows my opinion on the matter. I know he has drank but it I don't think it will ever be an issue as he lived with an alcoholic that his mother was married to and he did not like it. But if he does go off and do something stupid then the blame falls on me and his mother not just him.

Now back to your story... they have yet to say who did the assult or what it involved. Before you go kill anyone lets find out what is going on. Now for giving the kids the drugs and alcohol they need a foot in the ass... if it was either of them that did the assult then another foot but lets find out the whole story before we hang anyone... OK...

Matt

[DalesCarpentry]

Matt. My daughter will be 13 on March 20 of this year. The first day of spring by the way. My wife and I have known every moment since her first breath where she was and who she was with. She has been a cheerleader for 4 years now starting with miget football. Oh and she has made honer roll for the past 3 years. That means she is all A's and B's, for the most part she is an A student with a B sprinkled in there every now and then. This year she came home upset she got a B on a test and I told her I wiil never complain about a B grade from her. Well by the end of the week she came home all happy and my wife and I were like what's up. She explained that she knew she could do better on that test and she took it again(on her own) and got an A. I have to say I was proud of her. We never said she should have done better and she went and took it again on her own. Dale

[Matt]

I could not control myself if this was my daughter involved. Dale
http://www.wpxi.com/news/18743065/detail.html

OK but if it was your daughter involved who's fault would it be...

Matt

[Cabin4]

Its a big bad world out there. You can't keep your kid(s) on lease at all times. Sometimes even the best of kids fall to peer presssure. It does not mean the kid or their parents are bad people. Sometimes parents can do everything right and things will just simply go wrong.

[DalesCarpentry]

I could not control myself if this was my daughter involved. Dale
http://www.wpxi.com/news/18743065/detail.html

OK but if it was your daughter involved who's fault would it be...

Matt

OK. Maybe I worded it wrong. In this case I know it would not be my daughter but they are still scumbags. Dale

[Matt]

Not sure I agree with you on that last part cabin... sometimes what you think is right is really wrong... so to say you did everything right is a huge claim to make and one most would not. Now I do understand where you are coming from and your point but having been around the 14-24 year old crowd for many years I have seen all kinds of things that made me step back and pause... The mentality of the younger generation is so much different than it was just 20 years ago when I was a teen. I strongly feel that it is a direct result of the mother leaving the home for the workforce and the children being raised by a babysitter or worse society aka TV.

so lets put this into perspective, lets say you have a family with 3 kids, one turns into a dead beat and the other 2 go off and do great things or at least nothing bad... chances are the one was a bad kid and the parents did what they could.. on the other hand if 2 of them turned to crime and the third manged to get out and make something of themselves I would dare say those were bad parents. I am sure you had the first scenario in mind in your post cabin and would be the case where I would agree with you.

Matt

[Heather]

Its a big bad world out there. You can't keep your kid(s) on lease at all times. Sometimes even the best of kids fall to peer presssure. It does not mean the kid or their parents are bad people. Sometimes parents can do everything right and things will just simply go wrong.

Besides school there is NO place that your kid has to go that you can't go!  I'm sorry but if your child falls to peer pressure while they are somewhere without you it is just as much your fault as it is theirs.  

My children are no where near perfect and neither am I, but I can say one thing.  My boys will NOT be around drugs and/or alcohol until they are adults.  I may be the worst Mom in the world, but my the only parties, hang outs, sporting, and/or social event my boys will be EVER be attending preadulthood is the ones I am present for.  

They are still to young to go off and spend the night with friends, but rest assured when they are it will only happen if I know their parents well enough to know that they feel the same as I do that children must be supervised at all times.  As of now my boys are rather happy with my policy.  I'm the cool mom that coaches their team and is all of the school functions.  I know as they get older they will hate me being so involved in their lives, but I also know that as they get even older they will respect me greatly for it.

Heather

[Cabin4]

I did all the drugs and drinking you could imagine as a youngster. The things I did and the amount would make your head spin. My parents never had a clue....Not a clue.

[torpedoman]

 Todays paper reported that two 16 year old girls were removed from the army barracks in the wee hrs of the morning 1 was out cold the other dead. My question is what the he88 are two 16 year old gals doing out at that hour (i already know what they were doing in the barraks)  will bet it was all willing but they'll try to hang the guys.

[williamlayton]

I am sure that all mean well but folks you can't and should not strangle children. You can advise/teach/observe but the more you try and control the more they rebel.
Give em some space, let em get knocked around a bit. If they learn they benefit.
Now don't give them carte blanch room but enough that they can grow.
You can't be with them every minute. If you do what you can, that is all you can do.
It is a tough world and some fall thru the cracks. That's life.
Now you know what your parents were talking about.
Blessings

[bilmac]

We need to go back to some vigilante justice if law enforcement is not going to take care of the animals in our society.

A friends daughter was raped by a jock while in college. Last I heard nothing was done to the kid. I fully expected my Friend to ask me to help him make a steer out of this kid. Put on some ski masks grab the kid and take him for a ride in the country, dump him on the hospital steps when the operation is complete, wa-la one less rapists. Didn't happen but I would have helped if he had asked.

[billy_56081]

I agree with WIlliam, a parent must try to direct a child but cannot smother them. Many good kids will rebel if not givin some freedom. I happen to live in a very small town and know pretty much the good ones and bad ones here. I also have the advantage of my brother being the sheriff here and he lets me know the bad ones also. I have been a single partent since my kids were young and have had no trouble with them at all. A kid will be a kid all you can do is guide them.

I will also agree with Dale as if  that was my daughter, I would tell my brother that if they did nothing about it I would. In fact I have hunted down a few hoodlums who were starting to try to hang with my kids and let them know, what could happen to them.

[rparsons934]

There you go again Dale...

I say if your daughter was off somewhere drinking and doing drugs and something happen to her... then it is your ass that needs a foot put in it for letting it happen...

I promise you if teenagers wants to do something and they are given a long enough leash from their parents... they will do what ever it is they want. I am around the younger generation quite a lot and have a 15yr old of my own... they do what ever they want to if as a parent you don't do your job. With my teen I feel lucky, really I do he is a straight A student and one helluva soccer player. I know he wants to try weed and he knows my opinion on the matter. I know he has drank but it I don't think it will ever be an issue as he lived with an alcoholic that his mother was married to and he did not like it. But if he does go off and do something stupid then the blame falls on me and his mother not just him.

Now back to your story... they have yet to say who did the assult or what it involved. Before you go kill anyone lets find out what is going on. Now for giving the kids the drugs and alcohol they need a foot in the ass... if it was either of them that did the assult then another foot but lets find out the whole story before we hang anyone... OK...

Matt

I must say I agree. I still am the younger generation ( 20 yrs old). Teenagers will do what they want. They will find a way I did. Im sure you all did.  For me however i never had rules or structure and i wish i did. I would see kids that would be like "i want your mom you have no curfew or rules". When I wanted rules and a parent that cared.

[Brett]

+1 to what William and Billy said.  I child needs to learn responsibility and good decisions making.  How can they learn these things when their parents make every decision for them?  Sooner or later they will not be under your roof and under your thumb. What happens then?  I've seen kids from great homes who's parents dictated their every move go crazy and get into a heap of trouble when they went away to college because they never learned to make wise decisions themselves.   Their parents made all their decisions for them when they lived at home and they let their new "friends" make all their decisions for them when they went away to college because mom and dad were not their to make the right decisions for them.  

As our kids grow up we need to gradually allow them a little more freedom and give them more responsibilities, with our guidance of course, so that when the day comes that we are not around they are better equipped to make prudent decisions.  Instruct them lovingly don't smother them.  

[beerbelly]

First off none of you parent your kids! The government schools  ans the government dose. Try to give your kid a needed butt whipping like I used to get and you will wind up in jail. The government dose not allow you to discipline your kids, and not just corporal  punishmeant. Try locking the Little darling in their room to keep them from going  some where you know they have no business being. You will go to jail!
  People turned their kid over to the government forty years ago. After everyone bought into that book by Dr. Spock. Who's own kid by the way killed himself.
  If you don't get your kids out of those brain washing government schools and break the law from time to time and instil some discipline,  they don't have a chance.
                                                       Beerbelly

[Singleshotsam]

When I turned 16 and was able to buy my own truck, My mom and dad set me down at the kitchen table.  The lecture was very short and I remember every word of it.  Mom told me that they trusted me.  I was told that I would be in at or before my curfew.  I was not to get into trouble and if they found out I had there would be hell to pay.  I was told that if I ever violated their trust, I wouldn't have any type of social life.  Dad told me simply "If you get your ass in jail, you can figure out a way to get yourself out. Don't call me." Then my mom told me to get out and go have some fun.  I never did anything bad so to speak, and if I did, I figured out a damn fast way of getting out of it.  Cause I knew that my pa would let me sit behind the bars and give me plenty of time to think about my screw ups.

[rparsons934]

First off none of you parent your kids! The government schools  ans the government dose. Try to give your kid a needed butt whipping like I used to get and you will wind up in jail. The government dose not allow you to discipline your kids, and not just corporal  punishmeant. Try locking the Little darling in their room to keep them from going  some where you know they have no business being. You will go to jail!
  People turned their kid over to the government forty years ago. After everyone bought into that book by Dr. Spock. Who's own kid by the way killed himself.
  If you don't get your kids out of those brain washing government schools and break the law from time to time and instil some discipline,  they don't have a chance.
                                                       Beerbelly

I got many of those need whippings. And in ohio corporal punishment is legal. However if it were to happen it would no longer be legal. Im 20 yrs old my mom used to put a hurtin on me. She never went to jail. However she did when it was my crazy sister getting those even more needed whippings. The funny thing is my sister used to start boxing my mother first. She would still go to jail.

[gypsyman]

Cabin4 said it, when he mentioned peer pressure. It's real hard to keep kids now days on the straight and narrow, when just about every TV channel puts out the garbage that it does. And when you have 2 guys like this, making it easy for kids to get the stuff,real hard to keep track of your kids when you have to go to work sometime. What parents need to do, and I'm hoping that I can in just a year or 2, when my 10 year old son, and 7 year old son are just a little bit older. I want to take them to the local mental hospital, where I can show them first hand, what happens when somebody burns themselves out on drugs and alcohol. Sitting in the corner of a room, rocking back and forth talking to themselves. Then, just before they get their drivers liscense, kids should volunteer to work the emergency room at the local hospital. Let them witness first hand, what a crash from a drunk driver looks like. Like rubbing as puppy's nose in it, to teach it not to pee/poop in the house.
As far as the 2 dirtbags in the news video,contributing to a minor, sex with a minor, supplying drugs to minor's, the next time they should see daylight, we should have a Mars colony established. JMO  gypsyman
As far as these 2 lowlife's are concerned,

[SHOOTALL]

i have raised 3 , seen many more raised by others . You can control them for sure , you can keep a tight hold on them right up to the point they say enough and leave . Many go wild at this point doing bad things to prove they can . My wife and I felt it better to release the control in little steps starting at a young age . when they were 17-18 they were well grounded . No they were not perfect or do everything like we would have or wanted them to but they don't get in trouble and all work and make their own way . And still look to us for advice although they sometimes still don't use it . But that was our goal having children that think for themselves and make a positive contribution to society .
Cabin , William and Billy ya'll must have seen the same things i did .

[Heather]

The school my son attends still practices corporal  punishmeant, but then again this is the same school who threw a congratulations Obama party.  Yes most schools are corrupt on the basis that they teach a skewed version of the facts in many instances and they try to instill their far left views on the nations youth.  

If homeschooling isn't an option then my advice is to get involved in the school.  Know what your children are learning so that you may give them your opinion on the issue as well so they are informed on all aspects and not just what their teacher teaches them.  Children learn everywhere everyday, as long as good parents are sharing moral ethical views with their kids, it may be enough to combat the damage the brainwashing um I mean school system may cause.

Heather

[rparsons934]

Cabin4 said it, when he mentioned peer pressure. It's real hard to keep kids now days on the straight and narrow, when just about every TV channel puts out the garbage that it does. And when you have 2 guys like this, making it easy for kids to get the stuff,real hard to keep track of your kids when you have to go to work sometime. What parents need to do, and I'm hoping that I can in just a year or 2, when my 10 year old son, and 7 year old son are just a little bit older. I want to take them to the local mental hospital, where I can show them first hand, what happens when somebody burns themselves out on drugs and alcohol. Sitting in the corner of a room, rocking back and forth talking to themselves. Then, just before they get their drivers liscense, kids should volunteer to work the emergency room at the local hospital. Let them witness first hand, what a crash from a drunk driver looks like. Like rubbing as puppy's nose in it, to teach it not to pee/poop in the house.
As far as the 2 dirtbags in the news video,contributing to a minor, sex with a minor, supplying drugs to minor's, the next time they should see daylight, we should have a Mars colony established. JMO  gypsyman
As far as these 2 lowlife's are concerned,

Depends on the drugs. I no people who have smoked pot there whole life. They work jobs, pay bills, and operate fine in everyday situations. Now i no pot is supposed to be a gateway drug but that is in the eye of the beholder. I smoke pot have for years. Never even thought about trying anything else. I make 60,000 a year. Im 20, I pay my bills and go to work every day. Sex with a minor is obscene. That is the nastyiest thing ever. Im 20 and wouldnt have sex with a 17 year old. Or an 18 yr old for that matter. I would have to say should go to the pen and get locked up with BUBBA.


And heather i agree with wat you are saying. Be active in your childs life. Especially with the school part.
We all know that home schooling is a hard thing to do because there are bills to be paid. In todays world its hard for a couple (married or not) to pay bills. They dont have time to be home and teach the kids. Stay at home mothers are a dying breed slowly but surley.

[SHOOTALL]

Schools are a joke if you think they stress good morals . They created the ME generation .
Funny part is people think they just got corrupt . I went to a private school 10 -12 grades , if you got in a fight you went to the gym and did it in front of the whole school , broke a rule and could get a paddle across , had a dress code . went to chaple every friday . The parties were wild with drinking , pot , naked cheer leaders and other stuff . Teachers were often present 3 married/dated students . Most parents had no clue . Your peers would have killed you if you messed it up . The ski trips were un real . The public schools that i had attended were no better . Out of my sunday school class of 12-14 only 2 ( myself and one other ) had not been killed or gone to jail by the time we were 21.

the two most sobering discoveries a person can make - Your parents did everything you do and your kids do everything you did

Ain't that a pretty picture !

[rparsons934]

the two most sobering discoveries a person can make - Your parents did everything you do and your kids do everything you did

Ain't that a pretty picture !

+ 1 however usually its both.

[gypsyman]

I just don't think that giving pot to minors should be legal. It's been over 30 years since I smoked pot, tried it a couple times at some party's I was at. While I do believe that it should be legalized, marijuana that is, I don't think it's right to give it to minor's. And yes, I do know some people that have used it for years, and use it like some people do booze/beer. At the end of the day, use it to relax. And as long as their not out driving around or putting the make on a 13 or 14 year old child, I have no problem with that. And that's where I draw the line. Mess with one of my boys, and that old, but still hard, 34'' Louiseville slugger with Carl Yastremski's name on the end of it, might just have to go back into action. gypsyman

[rparsons934]

I just don't think that giving pot to minors should be legal. It's been over 30 years since I smoked pot, tried it a couple times at some party's I was at. While I do believe that it should be legalized, marijuana that is, I don't think it's right to give it to minor's. And yes, I do know some people that have used it for years, and use it like some people do booze/beer. At the end of the day, use it to relax. And as long as their not out driving around or putting the make on a 13 or 14 year old child, I have no problem with that. And that's where I draw the line. Mess with one of my boys, and that old, but still hard, 34'' Louiseville slugger with Carl Yastremski's name on the end of it, might just have to go back into action. gypsyman

I agree with everything you said. It should under no circumstances be given to minors. Chances are Minor will explore the option of it. But that should be avoided at all costs. I'm not a father but i have a god daughter and a little sister. I agree don't mess with either of them or there will be consequences

[Skunk]

Mess with one of my boys, and that old, but still hard, 34'' Louisville Slugger with Carl Yastremski's name on the end of it, might just have to go back into action.

I have the Harmon Killebrew model.

[myronman3]

i expected to see a video of kids dangling from fishhooks. 

[Skunk]

i expected to see a video of kids dangling from fishhooks. 

LOL Myronman. Now that's some good fun.

[SHOOTALL]

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