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Re: Do as I SAY, Not as I DO!
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2009, 01:49:55 AM »
mirage1988, that is my point. You should see my last name. If you did, there would be no doubt of my lineage. It is not always what you say, but how you say it. You can call a liar, a liar, without calling him something else.
When my children were growing up, they would get into arguments as children do. During my 20 year career in L.E. I had long since learned that name calling is like ringing a bell. It cannot be un-rung. I told them to argue about what they were upset about, and not bring NEW ISSUES into the argument.
Many adults have never learned this fact. They ADD ISSUES, to an issue they are upset over, and it clouds the original issue.
I am not upset with name calling ANYONE. I was in a profession where few people were glad to see me arrive, unless they were on the bottom of the fight. I have been called a lot of things and I just considered the source. I am just saying that calmness, and rationale are what I look for in a conversation, and if those two criteria are absent, there is many times not much left to discuss, as the "real issue" usually ends up going by the way side JUST AS THE ISSUE OF THIS THREAD AT THE PRESENT "HAS".
If a man is lying. Tell him he's lying. If he steals. Call him a thief. If he needs a bath, tell him he's dirty. Calling him names OUTSIDE THE ISSUE, "shows one's own inability" to describe one's thought about that person, and is "indicative to that weakness" by resorting to name calling. It many times conjures up images of someone standing on the street pointing a finger and screaming insults, but having nothing to say really. It in no way makes the one being called names "look worse" but, instead takes away from what the speaker is "trying to say".
There is a gentleman that lives just east of me here in Texas that has a song out that has some popularity regionally. The name of the song is "Bottom Line". It is a country music "protest song". One of the chief lines in the song is: Recognizing the difference in just saying "something", and actually having "something to say".
There are thoughts here on this thread that I truly agree with, and some I consider redictulus. It is much easier to separate the two, if they are stated CLEARLY AND CONCISELY, than if clouded by irrational, or immature rhetorical name calling. JMO, and for those that disagree, and think the name calling adds something, then you already know my thoughts on such posts.
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Re: Do as I SAY, Not as I DO!
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2009, 02:11:39 AM »
What happened to the thread about him showboating and flying all over the country? Complaining about the big three flying to washington was for the americans to feel better about giving them money.  If they have to drive a hybrid vehicle to ask for money hey must be hard up. It was all about image. They flew on a jet to washington and drove the last 4 miles to ask for the money. They did not drive from Detroit.  It was all a show.  If I come to your house in a limo and a 3 piece suit asking for money are you likely going to be receptive?  AF1 went to Ottawa the other day for tea and a handshake.  That is 50 miles from my home and I locked up my wallet as I expected it to be sucked dry as he plane flew over. Whether you call him boy, the prez or any other pet name is immaterial. He is a socialist through and through and we will pay the price.  Look how much people complained, and rightfully, when the banks and insurace companies got handouts and they went on half million dollar weekend get aways. For the plan to work, you have to look desperate.  You aren't really going to fall for the con are you? It was all a show as was flying to colorado.  No different than it flying to texas for a vacation weekend or to chicago for valentines day. Every president does and will continue to do so.
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Re: Do as I SAY, Not as I DO!
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2009, 02:30:41 AM »
bubba, your point is TAKEN, and has been heard loud and clear, without SIDE ISSUES being brought in. Well said sir.
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Re: Do as I SAY, Not as I DO!
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2009, 04:39:50 AM »
I agree 100% with the sentiment of the origional post.  I'm sure most others on this site agree 100%.  As we found out on November 4, 2008 the people on this site alone are not enough to have elections go our way.  If you want any opion made taken seriously by any demographic other than those that frequent this and similar sites, I strongly suggest you address the issues without using names.  For those of you trying to sell "the boy" as anything other than a derogatory term...good luck with that.  As the saying goes...I have a lot of black friends.  Most of them would prefer the "N" word to being called boy. 

This is a sensitive subject, and I believe 100% in freedom of speech.  Keep calling him "boy" if you want. Just don't be surprised when everyone that doesn't already call him "boy" fails to hear the rest of your arguments, or when he gets reelected in 2012.
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