Author Topic: Do as I SAY, Not as I DO! (Read 1489 times)

LONGTOM · « **on:** February 20, 2009, 02:41:26 AM »

Did anyone notice how the boy jumped all over the BIG THREE for flying their corp. jets in to DC to ask for bail out money, yet he takes AF1 on a photo opt to COLORADO to sign the GREAT SAVIOR BILL and then to ARIZONA for a speech and then back to DC.
This is about a 6 hour flight each way at a cost of around $57,000 an hour to operate AF1.
You do the math.
That's around $684,000 for the boy to show off when it could have been done right in DC.
I know that this amount is pocket change to our government but it just shows that both the boy & the government don't care about how they spend our money!!!

LONGTOM

Dee · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:53:23 AM »

LONGTOM, by "the boy" I am assuming that you mean Obama (which by the way sounds more racist than political disagreement, and adds NOTHING to the conversation). But how is this different than when Bush ordered WINE FOR GOD SAKES, that was more than $5,000.00 a bottle for the big meeting of foreign dignitaries, whom were meeting for the purpose of SOLVING THE WORLD ECONOMY CRISIS?
I am no Obama fan by ANY means, but the waste merely CONTINUES. It is NOT NEW.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2009, 03:15:05 AM »

Dee:
You are correct in both statements.
I am racist towards him and only him!
I can say that almost all other black people I have met in my life have been good, decent people.
Just yesterday one of them showed me just how nice most are.
I went to the bank to cash a check for my Father and as I was walking across the parking lot the wind blew it out of my hand when I went to open the door.
I didn't see which way it went.
As I was looking for it a black gentilman who was standing in a long line inside saw what happened and came out to help me try and find it.
After a few minutes he did find it for me under a bush.
I thanked him and offered to buy him lunch which he declined.
I thanked him again and we both went inside.
There is good and bad in all people and his actions clearly showed the good side.

As for Bush, again you are correct.
There is no difference between the two examples of waste shown by them.

Dee:
As you stated "it adds nothing to the conversation", I will change my wording from now on.
It won't change the way I feel about him but I can see where people would think I was racist towards all blacks, which I am not, just him!
I will not call him by name and I will not refer to him as the PRESIDENT as I feel he is not fit for the job.
I won't use any of the other names that have been used towards blacks.
That is not fair to their race as a whole.
I guess I could call him THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE as I can prove that he has done that.

LONGTOM

Dee · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2009, 03:53:35 AM »

My point LONGTOM, is that when one is a racist to ONE, he is a racist to ALL of the same race. I prefer to categorize on ones MERITS, other than his color. I am Cherokee, and to show racism toward a Cherokee for being CHEROKEE, is categorically being a racist toward ALL CHEROKEE. I have met MANY whites that I am not overly fond of (some on these forums) but, am married to a lady as white and blond as the driven snow. Were I to discriminate toward whites, I would be some what hypocritical, would I not?
Mr. Obama has many faults to criticize without racism, which by the way he is HALF WHITE. So one must ask. Is his WHITE half causing him to act a fool, or his BLACK half causing him to act a fool. If you yourself are white, and it proves that it is his WHITE SIDE causing him to act as such, then you might end up blaming YOURSELF, and YOUR RACE.
In the area of RACISM, one either is, or is not. JMO
You and I agree on much, however, such a view does not make one look credible. Not that you probably care, but I personally want to look as credible as possible, and to do so, one must BE credible. On this issue you do not. Again. JMO
There are many names Mr. Obama can be called: Socialist, Marxist, Fool or even PUPPET. None are indicative of race, and all are descriptive of his behavior.
It is like some like to play with people's names. It is a childish game that shows more immaturity, than intellect, yet they continue, and believe themselves to be exhibiting their clever wit. And again. JMO
This is not to say, that I am not capable of referring to someone as "the boy" and have. I sometimes leave my friends at the coffee shop with the salutation of: See you boys later.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2009, 04:11:27 AM »

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My point LONGTOM, is that when one is a racist to ONE, he is a racist to ALL of the same race.

I don't think I agree with that but I may be wrong.

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which by the way he is HALF WHITE. So one must ask. Is his WHITE half causing him to act a fool, or his BLACK half causing him to act a fool. If you yourself are white, and it proves that it is his WHITE SIDE causing him to act as such

I don't think his mixed race has anything to do with his honesty or integrity.
It is merely a product of his belief and social up bringing.

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There are many names Mr. Obama can be called: Socialist, Marxist, Fool or even PUPPET. None are indicative of race, and all are descriptive of his behavior.

Then I guess that THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE would fit just fine.
This is not indicative of race, but descriptive of his behavior!

LONGTOM

Cabin4 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2009, 04:32:54 AM »

The fact is Dee, Obama is a boy.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2009, 04:36:00 AM »

Oh, and Eric Holder, our new attorney general, he's an idiot. A complete idiot. This idiots first speech to the nation as the new AG was to call America "cowards".

This idiots not fit to be a ambulance chaser let alone gaurding our constitution.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2009, 04:46:55 AM »

Eric Holder our new Attorney General is a big supporter of gun control and big hater of the 2nd amendment. Here's another good example of what Eric Holder has brought us in the past and this was over a child custody battle. Imagine what Eric will do if he thinks you have a saw off shot gun under your bed! Or maybe a 12 round magazine in a 10 round cap state......or maybe the communist in the congress just past a law out lawing a series of semi auto's and the ATF thinks you have one;;;;;;

WylieKy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:42:50 AM »

I think that one of the points that Dee is trying to make is that by using "the boy" phrase you automatically denigrate your argument to that of an ignorant racist. As it is, anyone who is not anointing Obama's feet with oil and burning myrrh in his presence is considered a borderline racist by the masses. At this point we are having enough trouble fighting the good fight and can't afford to give the opposition an opportunity to discredit our valid arguments. Longtom and cabin, you both have good points to make. Don't let a semi-humorous catch phrase tarnish what you are saying.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:50:29 AM »

WylieKy:
I see your point and well taken.

Just like durning NAM.
The term "serch and destroy" will now be replaced by "clean and sweep".

My reference towards him will from now on be "THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE".

LONGTOM

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:59:39 AM »

Quote from: LONGTOM on February 20, 2009, 08:50:29 AM

WylieKy:
I see your point and well taken.

Just like durning NAM.
The term "serch and destroy" will now be replaced by "clean and sweep".

My reference towards him will from now on be "THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE".

LONGTOM

You could always refer to him the way GB does. He calls him the prez. Dale

LONGTOM · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2009, 09:11:45 AM »

Lets ride with this one a while and see what happens.
Don't want to hijack someone elses idea and surely don't want to elevate him to such a regarded position until he proves himself worthy of the job!

LONGTOM

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2009, 10:52:50 AM »

Quote from: LONGTOM on February 20, 2009, 09:11:45 AM

Lets ride with this one a while and see what happens.
Don't want to hijack someone elses idea and surely don't want to elevate him to such a regarded position until he proves himself worthy of the job!

LONGTOM

Well by refering to him as the prez is good because it shows disrespect for him. Because it is spelled wrong. Dale

beerbelly · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:52:37 AM »

I am all for you politically correct gentlemen, but to me he is BOY.
Beerbelly

Tommyt · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:52:45 AM »

Did anyone notice how the "PREZ" jumped all over the BIG THREE for flying their corp.

Do you remember His "Bro" Willy Kilnton flew AF#1 to Kali for a Hair cut

Cabin4 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:35:26 AM »

Yes, the porkulus bill was so critical that congress passed it so Obama could wait 5 days

and spend millions of tax payer dollars flying the 747 to Denver for a big media event.

What a hipocryt. But then again......

Troyboy · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:12:04 PM »

Good for you beerbelly

S.S. · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:35:57 PM »

"Racist to one racist to all"?
I emphatically disagree.
I am not racist but I despise "The Boy"
myself! Some of my best friends are black
but they do not act like I owe them something!
They are hard workers and support their families.
I know a whole lot more sorry white folks than black folks
and seeing them popping out babies like crazy
and not even trying to support them pisses me off.
I called one of the babies daddies boy about a week ago,
does that make me racist against my own race?
I think not! Not even sure what race I would be classified as!
I am Cherokee, Apache, Irish, English, Dutch and a touch of
rattle snake I think!
A mixed breed Mut I guess!

Dee · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:37:45 PM »

I think I go to recess on this one.

mirage1988 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:42:15 PM »

That is getting pretty sensitive if being called "boy" is racist.

-Weren't we all "boys" once?

-Is-"Don't send a boy to do a man's job!" a racist comment then, or what is the real meaning of that phrase?

LONGTOM · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:52:52 PM »

I may have changed the wording but

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It won't change the way I feel about him but I can see where people would think I was racist towards all blacks, which I am not, just him!
I will not call him by name and I will not refer to him as the PRESIDENT as I feel he is not fit for the job.
I won't use any of the other names that have been used towards blacks.
That is not fair to their race as a whole.
I guess I could call him THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE as I can prove that he has done that.

To those in support of my old name for him Thank You, but I really don't want to cause hard feelings between any of us here on GBO as we all need to stand together.
Regardless of what he is called or what others may think of me, it won't change how I feel towards HIM!!!

LONGTOM

45-70.gov · « **Reply #21 on:** February 21, 2009, 01:54:41 PM »

the boy was elected by racist that never voted before till a ''black'' man ran

so what is wrong with reminding us that we got him for that reason

some low intellect racist will hold his colar against him
they need support in their hatred of the boy

that being said race is a stupid bases for choosing a president or anything for that matter
i do agree it detracts from you arguement
and don't forget that racist atourny general
and his grand mother is a typical white woman
his aunt is in the country illegal and is black

do as i say not as i do
the boy is a racist

we need a thread to get a new non-racist sounding name for the boy
dee is correct in this

how about socialist and cheif

barrak marx atc

i doan need no stinken spel chek

LONGTOM · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:10:14 PM »

Don't know how many of you have seen this but I think the letters of his last name pretty much says it all-
One Big A#^ Mistake America !

Wish I had thought of that.

LONGTOM

Cabin4 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:13:41 PM »

I'm tired of people taking a word or name and claiming exclusive use and redefinition of it. A boy is simply an immature male of the human race. For black people to redefine it as an excuse every time a white person uses it in their presence is 100% pure BS victom menatlity excuse BS.

Yet, they can call me boy and no one takes exception. That is the definition of racisam. No one better ever call me a boy to my face, black, white, red or anything else. I won't take it as racist, just a derogitory remark. But the next thing they will know is just how hard and heavy this boys fist will connect with their face.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:20:19 PM »

Quote from: cabin4 on February 21, 2009, 02:13:41 PM

I'm tired of people taking a word or name and claiming exclusive use and redefinition of it. A boy is simply an immature male of the human race. For black people to redefine it as an excuse every time a white person uses it in their presence is 100% pure BS victom menatlity excuse BS.

Yet, they can call me boy and no one takes exception. That is the definition of racisam. No one better ever call me a boy to my face, black, white, red or anything else. I won't take it as racist, just a derogitory remark. But the next thing they will know is just how hard and heavy this boys fist will connect with their face.

why are black people and yourself so sinsitve to that word??

i have been called worse and have never been hurt or threatened in any way

before some ones words can hurt you
you must value their opinion
when i am verbally attacked i don't dignify that person with a responce [unless they make me laugh]

LONGTOM · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2009, 02:26:55 PM »

To me it's not the word used it's the fact that one race can use these words and it's ok but if the other uses these same words than all of a sudden they are a racist.

Anyway, now that I have changed my name for him I am really starting to like the new one better as it now can refer strickly to him and is something I can back up if I am called out on it's use.

LONGTOM

Cabin4 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2009, 04:49:33 PM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on February 21, 2009, 02:20:19 PM

Quote from: cabin4 on February 21, 2009, 02:13:41 PM
I'm tired of people taking a word or name and claiming exclusive use and redefinition of it. A boy is simply an immature male of the human race. For black people to redefine it as an excuse every time a white person uses it in their presence is 100% pure BS victom menatlity excuse BS.

Yet, they can call me boy and no one takes exception. That is the definition of racisam. No one better ever call me a boy to my face, black, white, red or anything else. I won't take it as racist, just a derogitory remark. But the next thing they will know is just how hard and heavy this boys fist will connect with their face.

why are black people and yourself so sinsitve to that word??

Do I really have to explain this one??

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:41:44 PM »

I grew up one block from the "quarters" playing cowboys and indians with a lot of little "Nigra" children. I can and have called them the so called "N" word, "BOY" as many others. To this day I speak as i did then and not one of those I know will take offense. They themselves call each other those names.

I have found that most are more interested in how you say it..it can take a whole new meaning and result in a big black eye for you. Of course it helps if they know you and where you are coming from in the conversation.

Dee · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2009, 05:51:44 PM »

Quote from: Redtail1949 on February 21, 2009, 05:41:44 PM

I grew up one block from the "quarters" playing cowboys and indians with a lot of little "Nigra" children. I can and have called them the so called "N" word, "BOY" as many others. To this day I speak as i did then and not one of those I know will take offense. They themselves call each other those names.

I have found that most are more interested in how you say it..it can take a whole new meaning and result in a big black eye for you. Of course it helps if they know you and where you are coming from in the conversation.

There ya go RT. It isn't what you say, but how you say it. Condescension is non-productive and adds little to a thought. It is one thing to be condescending on the phone or Internet, but will one do so face to face with these people. If so, will it accomplish ANYTHING, other than discord? It is much like cursing the waitress, with out giving a thought to the fact that, one cannot tell the difference between a LICKED SPOON, and a WASHED one.

mirage1988 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2009, 07:45:12 PM »

Dee-
I had a co-worker that was part native american- his toolbox was labelled chief, we called him that, when he calls me on the phone- I answer him as chief! There is no problem there, he grew up with it- he was much happier being called chief than his real name that ended with ski-