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Offline mjbgalt

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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2009, 03:56:50 PM »
i am just going to watch quietly and if graybeard gets snatched in the middle of the night for his posts i am going to be hiding out in the woods that same day.

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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2009, 03:28:33 AM »
Eh... I think that if they wanted to grab Bill in the night, they better bring a tank... and besides, there's been plenty of posts like that before...
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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2009, 05:04:21 AM »
 Talk about a snowball headn' for hell. It's comming, and it ain't stoppn' for sh*@. I always new the time would come, but I was always hoping it was something that maybe my grandchildern would have to worry about. I'm not ready for this sh*@!
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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2009, 05:41:11 AM »
I also agree with GB. I think they would. Our Govt brain washes people. They will die for what they are told to do. And bringing in military to do that is just BS and unconstitutional.
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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2009, 07:31:50 AM »
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I also agree with GB. I think they would. Our Govt brain washes people. They will die for what they are told to do. And bringing in military to do that is just BS and unconstitutional.


To an extent parsons,

Once the lead starts flying and people start dying, a person begins to wonder if they are getting paid enough to put up w/ that kind of thing everyday.  Once a guy see's his friends head get blown off, it changes their perspective a bit.
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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2009, 08:00:38 AM »
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I also agree with GB. I think they would. Our Govt brain washes people. They will die for what they are told to do. And bringing in military to do that is just BS and unconstitutional.


To an extent parsons,

Once the lead starts flying and people start dying, a person begins to wonder if they are getting paid enough to put up w/ that kind of thing everyday.  Once a guy see's his friends head get blown off, it changes their perspective a bit.

Yes I agree. But how many people in the armed services or national guard would actually see there friends head blown off. Yea you will have your people who say "F" this. But how many. I doubt its as many as we need to say no. People in this country have lost the ability to think for them selfs. Granit not all but most.
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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2009, 08:17:09 AM »
I've been a part of a "berming and clearing" operation in OIF; we built perimeters around a series of towns/cities each between 30-50K people. Used dozers to build a big earth berm, then topped it with triple-strand wire. THEN we went through each on a cordon and knock, searching for everything of course but SOP is to first establish that the household is in compliance with firearms laws, and confiscate all excess. Marines have done this (active & reserve) as have the Army (active, reserve and National Guard) for several years now. This is not new training. They have all been rigorously trained in the exact type of police activity that is feared will spread at home, and perhaps because of this there are those who think that would be a good idea - worked there, should work here.

BUT it was not a lockstep event - the individuals conducting the mission hated it. It was a great imposition on Iraqi families which most Marines actually cared about, and very little juice for the squeeze.  Many of my guys asked me if what we were doing was ethical (Chaplains get asked that alot more these days.) I had a hard time answering that one. But it gives me hope that if they were asked to do it in their home town, they'd have problems - in fact, most would say no based on my conversations.

The military is not brainwashed - with about a million patriotic self-sacrificing Americans in it, that would be hard to accomplish. They are being asked with increasing frequency to do or not do things that run contrary to their convictions, and they too have a breaking point.

Our society is producing at greater numbers young men and women with no orientation - no compass, no fixed point - who are willing to go along to get along. And they would be the recruits for a national security force, which I would be worried about. If you want to undermine the liberal agenda, take every kid you know shooting and talk to them about civic virtue.

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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2009, 03:22:59 PM »
After giving this more thought, I came to a realization that scares me as much as our military being used against civilians.

During the cold war, the one strategic attack plan that was always a "certain failure" for a Soviet attack was a frontal assault on American soil.  No invading army could mount an amphibious/ paratrooper attack on a country in which every household had weapons. 

Once the guns are taken, the socialist forces would only hold power for a short time before China would see how easily a successful attack could be mounted.  Take out our communications, take out our infrastructure, then march wave upon wave of infantry across the heartland of America.
It worked well for the Barbarians when taking down the world power known as the Roman empire.

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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2009, 06:57:35 PM »
By then the folks left alive here might would prefer China or Russia being in charge to what they are suffering thru at the time. I don't expect to still be around that late in the game.


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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2009, 09:45:49 AM »
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We have been in Iraq for how many years now????  Don't tell me this sort of training has been put into "Action" over there.  Just another way for the system to invade our homes to snoop around.  Who is running this country anyway?????  What ever happened to the Constitution??????????????

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Re: National Guard to conduct gun confiscation training
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2009, 01:17:20 AM »
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We have been in Iraq for how many years now????  Don't tell me this sort of training has been put into "Action" over there.  Just another way for the system to invade our homes to snoop around.  Who is running this country anyway?????  What ever happened to the Constitution??????????????

The answer to your last question is: GW's Patriot Act, is what happened to the Constitution, AND Bill of Rights
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