CZ 452 or the marlin917 both in var. mod. which one please help.

[wind drift]

CZ 452 or Marlin 917 both var. mod. which one and is one more accurate than the other. any info. help please. THANKS.

[Badnews Bob]

I think you need to clarify your poll somewhat.

[Graybeard]

I fixed the poll so at least you now have two different options. I still don't understand why folks think they have to make every question they ask a poll. Just asking for options of the two will likely get more worthwhile information on which to base a decision.

[Ron T.]

I bought a new CZ453 "varmint" model (heavy-barreled, no iron sights) .22 rimfire right after they came out and I was able to see and handle them down at the big NRA National Convention in Louisville, Ky. and did quite a bit of shooting with it using a new 4-12x40mm variable scope before replacing the 4-12x scope with a 6-24x50mm scope off my heavy-barreled .222 Sako. 

The M453 is a M452 with a completely adjustable, factory-installed single set trigger.   I've never shot the Marlin Model of which you wrote, so I can't tell you anything about it.  However, I doubt that any Marlin will be as accurate as the CZ452/453 models.  Hopefully, some of the other Members here in the Forum will have some experience with the Marlin model in which you're also interested.

My M453 is currently at my gunsmith's shop.  He is fiber-glass bedding the action and pillar-bedding the action screws (and leaving the heavy barrel floating).  He is also going to highly polish the trigger guard & then give the trigger guard a deep "hot" blue job.  This should make the otherwise ugly, dull, cheap-looking trigger guard much more acceptable looking (to me, anyway). 

I'm surprised CZ would put such a cheap-looking trigger guard on a .22 rimfire rifle that has a manufacturer's suggested retail price of almost $600 ($596.50), but generally sells for at least $100 less than that!!!

The "varmint" model has a heavy barrel (better for consistent, multiple-shot accuracy) in both the M452 & M453... and all CZ .22 rimfires have hammer-forged barrels which are suppose to be "THE" most accurate way to "drill" a rifle barrel.  The "varmint" model is also somewhat easier on which to mount a scope since there are no iron sights on the "varmint" model rifles.

The CZ 452/453 are very accurate rifles, but much of the accuracy is determined by the ammunition the shooter uses.  Unfortunately, "match" ammo is expensive, but the fun is to set up the rifle so it is as accurate as possible.  This means you usually have to do at least "trigger job" on a M452 on the already-fully-adjustable trigger found on both the M452 and M453.

While the regular trigger on my M453 is smooth and just "ok" (maybe 2.75 lbs.), the single set trigger is set at just a few ounces... and so, no "trigger job" was necessary.

Once I get my M453 back from the gunsmith, I'm going to search for a brand of inexpensive .22 rimfire ammo that shoots VERY accurately through my CZ453.  This is gonna be a "fun summer"... lotsa CZ .22 rimfire shooting!!!      


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

[mcwoodduck]

Well,
I own a CZ 452 but it is in the standard configuration and I own a Marlin 917V.  Both are great rifles.  I have an earlier Marlin 882 and have seen a few places they have cheapened the current batch.  the Trigger on the 917V is plastic and has some flex to it, the wood stock is light in the butt and a little muzzel heavy, it tends to slid around on my shoulder a little too much for my liking.
If I had that rifle to do over I would have gone with the SS model like my buddy did.  the heavier stock with the rubber butt pad is a lot better and the trigger is metal.  I am having over travel problems with mine and not getting stacking one on top of the other that the 882 in 22 mag and my friends stainless 17 will do.  Mine wears a Weaver V9 3-9X38 scope and is very deadly on ground squirrels and cotton tails.  It is not much as a small game rifle as the little 17 grain bullet really explodes and chews up a lot of meat especally if you hit bone.
With that said, after the Handi in 30-30 my next rifle purchase is going to be a CZ 452 Varmint in 22LR.
I will try to post a picture of the rimfire collection.

[mcwoodduck]

Here is the other half

[Skunk]

Wowzer, mcwoodduck, that is a fine collection of rimfires. Very impressive. That SS, 10/22, with the Mannlicher stock really sticks out nicely, as does the 10/22 with the laminated stock and heavy barrel.

[mcwoodduck]

Thank you,
I like the looks of the manlicher stocks.  It shoots well too.  The heavy barrel is a 10/22 T model and came like that from the factory sans the 3-9X40 Leupold Var XII.
The only complaint I have is the stock screw will back out during long shooting sessions.  A little an areobic adheasive and it stays in till cleaning.  AKA Loc tite. 
All are fun to shoot, but I like the CZ 452 best.

[Ladobe]

The second 17HMR I bought was a Marlin 17VS right when they first came out.   I added a Rifle Basix trigger, BKL mounts, two custom shortened magazines, a 4-12 scope and did a poor mans bed job on it before it popped its first cap.   Easy 3/4-1/2 MOA gun that has shot a .264 5-shot group at 100 (with CCI TNT's) and killed uncountable ground squirrels and jack rabbits for me.   Not as accurate as my first 17HMR is, but about a 1/4 MOA more accurate than my third one.

My CZ 17 RF is a 452, but for the 17HM2 (not 17HMR) and is my third firearm for that cartridge.   Never got around to it, so it's still new in the box.

[woodchuckssuck]

I had a marlin 917v a few years ago (sold because I didn't really use it) and once I bedded the action, it was one heck of a shooter. I shot a few 1/2-3/4" 100 yard groups one day when it was fairly breezy out off the bench, using Remington V-max ammo. I imagine hornady would have done better, but didn't shoot it that day. You can pay a lot more for the CZ and not have much better of a gun. I like cz's as well, but I think the marlin is the better "bang for the buck" in .17HMR. Its made here in the USA, too...